Look like a pretty Big draw shot.
- Thread starter mr3cushion
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I don't think he hit the long rail either. In the old days the artistic billiards competition was played with ivory balls. On a full hit at that speed, the ivory cue ball would go straight through the first object ball some and might hit the rail. I think ivory went out of use about 1995. Some of the shots are easier and some harder with phenolic balls.
I'm aware of your billiard expertise and that billiard cloth is very fast but in real time as well as frame by frame the ball breaks very sharply to the right, and just guessing here, was spinning sufficiently to bite the slick cushion. Granted at that speed, spin needn't be extreme but I imagine easily created by the forcefulness of the stroke. Also the incidence into the cushion is more like 20 degrees; half of the 45 degree exit you cite. An otherwise dead but rolling ball would not exhibit this behavior. I've no access to a billiard table nor have I ever hit a ball on professionally maintained equipment, so that's just my educated opinion.
The 45-degree angle I mentioned is from the short (1st) cushion to the long (2nd) cushion.
Correct. The ball hit that first cushion at around 20 degrees. The exact angle isn't important; only that it broke wide into what you are calling 45 degrees.
You better look again....The shot was not completed when the video ended. The ball was still rolling. What do you think?
OOOPS....I did not know the cue ball has to touch 3 cushions FIRST. I thought a double hit was OK.
In that event, the CB does Not always need 3 rails first to complete the shot in the program.
I am not allowed to try this shot in 11 different states, please don't ask why.
I was looking for contact on the long rail (indeterminate) and there's a slight anomaly about this shot. In freeze frame, the cue ball moves forward one tick <AFTER> the white has left the collision zone. This is probably a final hop attempting to displace the white before the backspin kicks in. IDK...
Still massive left english on the first rail. OK. maybe some left english...
Still massive left english on the first rail. OK. maybe some left english...
'AI' makes it look easy! Not! LOL!
Here is a previous thread that includes a link to the full video this clip is from.
The shot in the OP is at about 16:16 in the full video.
An artistic billiards competition
Here is a final match at Artistic Billiards which is a form of carom billiards that has been around for about 100 years as an organized competition. You will see some shots that look impossible. The balls and table are not doctored (although they...
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The shot in the OP is at about 16:16 in the full video.
Another Big Draw. 'Super 5 cushion Ticky draw.'
My very good friend Roberto Rojas of Mexico demonstrates a Very tough draw shot.
I couldn't figure out how just copy the video.
It's the 3rd video on the page.
https://www.facebook.com/j.h.gallegos.billarstudio
My very good friend Roberto Rojas of Mexico demonstrates a Very tough draw shot.
I couldn't figure out how just copy the video.
It's the 3rd video on the page.
https://www.facebook.com/j.h.gallegos.billarstudio
I have no doubt, that this position is much easier with a 'Mouse cue.'
jimif
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However, some positions are very difficult to make, even with a mouse cue. Finding the correct parameters could take a long searching time.