Looking at the cueball last when breaking

Woof Biscuit

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I'm probably like most in that I look at the OB last when shooting. I noticed that I would "lose" (not keep it in the middle of the table) the CB on the break due to putting english on the ball. This is obviously a result of not hitting the CB in the center. So out of frustration I decided to look at the CB last, and what do you know? My break is 10X better now!!! Just thought I would share my epiphany. :thumbup:
 
That's great that it works for you. :thumbup:

I used to look at the cue ball last on every shot... that was quite some time back now (10 years?). I since have learned to look at the cue ball last and my game has steadily improved from that point on.

Several years back, Nick Varner came up to Seattle to do a pool room grand opening promotion... and Nick took some questions from the audience at the end of his exhibition.

I asked Nick what he looks at last when breaking a 9-ball rack.

His answer... the 1-ball.

He said that he focuses on his contact point on the 1-ball to make either the 1-ball in the opposite side pocket or the wing ball on the same side from which he is breaking.
 
I should add that if my control of whitey on the break is going south, I will look at whitey last the next time or two that I break.

Doing so helps get my 9-ball break shot back in tune.
 
For sure

I put english on my cue ball when i break. I position my bridge where im hitting the stack and look dead on the cue ball when following through. I started doing this about eight years ago and my bar table break was improved very significantly.
 
I put english on my cue ball when i break. I position my bridge where im hitting the stack and look dead on the cue ball when following through. I started doing this about eight years ago and my bar table break was improved very significantly.

English, on purpose?
Why?
randyg
 
I'm probably like most in that I look at the OB last when shooting. I noticed that I would "lose" (not keep it in the middle of the table) the CB on the break due to putting english on the ball. This is obviously a result of not hitting the CB in the center. So out of frustration I decided to look at the CB last, and what do you know? My break is 10X better now!!! Just thought I would share my epiphany. :thumbup:

this ishow i break.
 
I'm probably like most in that I look at the OB last when shooting. I noticed that I would "lose" (not keep it in the middle of the table) the CB on the break due to putting english on the ball. This is obviously a result of not hitting the CB in the center. So out of frustration I decided to look at the CB last, and what do you know? My break is 10X better now!!! Just thought I would share my epiphany. :thumbup:



Wolf Biscuit got himself a bone!
randyg
 
I always look at the cb last but only on the break and only after I have the correct line to the one ball. I also have a stance only for breaking, this way they work hand in hand for that shot only. Works for me very well as far as keeping whitey in the center of the table on most breaks, unless an object ball runs into it.
 
If I'm breaking down the center string (9 ball and sometimes 8 ball), I look at the contact point on the object ball last. If I'm breaking from the side of the kitchen, I'm usually doing so with english and am looking at the cue ball to make sure I've got the right spot for the hit, because I'm less concerned about my contact point on the rack.

When I'm shooting an object ball, I look at where the center of the cue ball is going, which means on my thin cut shots I'm looking at neither the cue ball nor the object ball. If i focus on the contact point I hit too thick for the cuts.
 
I'm probably in the minority, but I look at the CB last on a good majority of my shots. I've tried several times over the years to focus purely on the OB, but I just can't. Don't know why, just the way I learned, I guess I used a lot of english naturally (also a bad habit, breaking that one now) and figured if I aimed correctly while standing and got down correctly, that once my eyes locked in the aim line then it was more important that I hit the cue ball where I was aiming and the rest would take care of itself.

I know that goes against popular instruction and maybe even common sense, you know the rifle analogy and all of that, but at this point after 20 years I think it will be tough to change. I feel like I lose control of the shot if I don't stare at the point I'm about to hit. But there are times when I do focus last on the OB, and in practice it turns out just fine. A matter of fact, sometimes it helps prevent any occasional flinching or steering action, since I am just focused on following through to my target on the OB. One of these days I'll be more committed to doing it more and more in practice until it's comfortable enough in pressure situations, but I can play lights out the way I do so low motivation at this point... :)

As for the break, I look at the CB last - I know, big surprise, right? On that I'm more divided, I know some people advocate still looking at the OB last, but even if I get to looking at the OB last more on normal shots I still think on certain specialty shots like jumps, jacked up draw shots, masses, and the break I would feel better looking at the CB last.

Scott
 
I'm probably like most in that I look at the OB last when shooting. I noticed that I would "lose" (not keep it in the middle of the table) the CB on the break due to putting english on the ball. This is obviously a result of not hitting the CB in the center. So out of frustration I decided to look at the CB last, and what do you know? My break is 10X better now!!! Just thought I would share my epiphany. :thumbup:


ive been there done that. my prediction: youll be back to looking at the 1 ball soon. i think there is a psychological phenomena.... when u try something new, you THINK your game is better.... but it is just new, not better.
 
Been out of town for a few days and just checked the thread. Looks like I'm not the only one! Thanks for the feedback. If Chris B. does it, it can't be that bad. You have a great break!
 
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I was taught to look at the cue ball last when breaking by my pool instructor. I trust him but maybe Scott Lee or Randy can chime in.
 
I have always looked at the CB last when breaking. I thought it was a bad habbit. I have always had a pretty good break so I never tried to change it.
 
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