Looking for a good ball rack, what are you all using?

KRJ

Support UKRAINE
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Unfortunately I would estimate that more than 70% of the people that I watch rack don't do this. And yes, that includes the better players too, even many pros.

I understand that it's tougher with the cheaper flexible bar racks, but the same principles still apply. The fact is that no rack will make balls that are not all the same size all touch each other, and no rack will make a ball not fall into a hole on the table.

I've used them all, and certainly some are better than most. But without knowing how to rack on a tough table, they all fail.

If I were to recommend my choice for a conventional rack, it would be either the delta 13 or the Duffy rack. But even with those, loose racks are abundant in the real world.


Royce

Must be a Chicago thing... its the only way to get the rack tight imho....
 

Kid Dynomite

Dennis (Michael) Wilson
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playing one pocket i was very unhappy with racks not being exact. i made this monster, its heavy, its ugly, it is a pain in the azz to use and it was expensive to build.

but if you want exact racks every time.

there are turnbuckles on each side to adjust to fit any table, the mark in the back lines up with the diamond inlay on the table. back and forth or side to side its exact.

You certainly will get told "No, No, No" when you pull that thing out and try to gamble. LOL, LOL, LOL

Never see a guy pull the money down from the light so fast as when you pull that thing out? I am certain about that for sure!

KD
 

fastone371

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playing one pocket i was very unhappy with racks not being exact. i made this monster, its heavy, its ugly, it is a pain in the azz to use and it was expensive to build.

but if you want exact racks every time.

there are turnbuckles on each side to adjust to fit any table, the mark in the back lines up with the diamond inlay on the table. back and forth or side to side its exact.

How do you get that rack out when it looks like it fits tight behind balls and the rail??
 

fastone371

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I LOVE the diamond wood rack. I don't even have a Diamond table, but after using one, I found a very nice used one.... they are heavy and keep the rack tight.

The Diamond wood rack is nice but I have noticed the balls will stick to the rack when it gets humid.
I love my Delta 13 Elite, it is by far the best rack ever made. I do not have leather inserts in mine, nobody has ever said its loud either, maybe because I do not slam the balls back and forth in the rack while racking.
I hate those cheap plastic racks, the biggest problem is they make them so damn small now it has become very difficult to remove the rack without bumping a ball. THANKS CHINA!!!!
 

I Got Lucky

AzB Silver Member
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Has anyone had any issues with the allen screws coming loose on the Delta-13. I read a review and this was a complaint. Nothing some loctite wouldn't fix I guess.
 

DJSTEVEZ

Professor of Human Moves
Silver Member
I use the Diamond wood rack. Initially I thought it was just a nice looking accessory to my table, but was surprised at how extremely well it works. -Z-
 

hang-the-9

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bdorman

Dead money
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So, with all this going on, how do you get a good rack? Even while at a bar?

Start by squeezing the balls up into the rack and sliding it up towards the spot. If some balls roll when you slide it, they are too loose. Move them around until the fewest balls roll.
Next, when you slide the rack up to the spot keep them pressed up into the rack until it's in position, and the slowly slide the rack forward slightly and watch the front balls.

If they move, namely the front ball, it's rolling into a hole that's already there. That location should become the new rack location. Face it, you can't make a ball stay on the side of a hole. It will always roll down hill, so let it go and rack around it.

Gently push all the other balls up to the new position around the front ball and tighten them up without moving it. I actually like to push the front ball very very slightly forward so it's actually leaning back against the rack to help hold it tight.

Carefully remove the rack and you're good to go.

Royce

I've preached this method numerous times on AZBilliards. I liken it to dog training: discover what the dog wants to do (i.e. where the head-ball wants to sit) and then train him to do it.

I'm usually called The Devil Incarnate for making the suggestion.
 

desi2960

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kid dynomite - fastone3721

i only made it to use at my room, the damn things too heavy to carry around.

it is very tight, you have to lift straight up or you will disturb the balls
 

The Renfro

Outsville.com
Silver Member
All the racks mentioned here are good products. As are the templates like the Accu-Rack or the Magic Rack.

But, I'm going to suggest you look at it a little differently.

First, learn about what's going on and what affects how the balls rack.

You have to realize that balls wear and they weary unevenly so they are not all the same size. I don't care what rack you use, a perfect rack cannot be had if multiple balls are not the same size.

Also, the table will get a dimple or indentation in the cloth where the front ball is when the rack is broken. This happens because of the pressure of the cue ball, which is usually elevated off the table, pushes down on the front ball driving it into the cloth and making a dent in the cloth. Now, consider that you simply can't rack in the same spot every time and you realize how the spot gets messed up.

So, with all this going on, how do you get a good rack? Even while at a bar?

Start by squeezing the balls up into the rack and sliding it up towards the spot. If some balls roll when you slide it, they are too loose. Move them around until the fewest balls roll.
Next, when you slide the rack up to the spot keep them pressed up into the rack until it's in position, and the slowly slide the rack forward slightly and watch the front balls.

If they move, namely the front ball, it's rolling into a hole that's already there. That location should become the new rack location. Face it, you can't make a ball stay on the side of a hole. It will always roll down hill, so let it go and rack around it.

Gently push all the other balls up to the new position around the front ball and tighten them up without moving it. I actually like to push the front ball very very slightly forward so it's actually leaning back against the rack to help hold it tight.

Carefully remove the rack and you're good to go.


I've used this process for many years. Long before all the special racks or rack your own tournaments. It works. It's not perfect, but it gets the best you can get for a given situation. I'm often amused when I see someone attempt to rack the balls, decide it's too loose, and pull the whole rack of balls back again. Every time they move that front ball out of it's hole, they have to start over. They usually give up and just leave a bad rack. I see it every time I go out and play.

Royce

Bolded and Blued the most Important part!!! As long as the Money Ball is not the biggest ball in your set the Accu-Rack template will freeze the balls by simply loading the template, pushing the balls forward and then letting them roll back while the geometry does it's job.... Best thing is it will do this on worn out balls on a table that has been tapped in and you can't get the balls to settle in properly to save your life...

Good cloth not tapped in and new balls I am using a Delta 13... Anything but that I want a template so it mght as well be the best template..

We used the Accu-Rack "SOLO" for the 8-Ball "Make it Happen" invitational and even Earl was pleased with it... The prior 8-ball event Accu-Stats did was 2012... They tried the other template you mention for the first day and abandoned it by day 2 as there were slugs left and right and none of the professional players were happy....

Just sayin,

Chris
 

Cory in DC

AzB Silver Member
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You're my kind of crazy, Desi!

But for the only slightly OCD, Delta is the way to go.



playing one pocket i was very unhappy with racks not being exact. i made this monster, its heavy, its ugly, it is a pain in the azz to use and it was expensive to build.

but if you want exact racks every time.

there are turnbuckles on each side to adjust to fit any table, the mark in the back lines up with the diamond inlay on the table. back and forth or side to side its exact.
 

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