Looking for cue case made similar to Joe porper's cases

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xxcysxx

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Hello folks,
So I really like Joe porper's case, and I especially like the shaft and butt loading design of his case. The shafts are loaded tip in first and the butt are loaded joint in first, so that the butt bumber is at the top and the shafts joint is also at the top. This case loading design give me the securiy that my shafts will stay straight while it is stored in the case, because of the taper tube design of the case insert. But what bothers me about his cases is that the door lid of the case uses a lousy piece of foam padding that crushes and disintegrate's over time as I continue to use the case.

I'm sure the designer must have a logical reason as to why they chooses to use foam over some other more durable materials for their door lid, but it's a deal breaker for me and certainly makes my case look and feel cheap. But what I'm looking for is an alternative brand either made to order or Chinese made that has a "one way loading" design like hoe porper's case, but without the cheap lousy foam insert for the lid.

I have checked all over the Internet as well as several local cue shops for a few weeks now and could not find an alternative. Hance, why I made this post.

Thanks all for reading my concerns, and any productive inpus is greatly appreciated.
 
If you want a custom case interior, JB can do it.

I don't know if anybody else is doing those extruded foam interiors though.

As was said above, the entire case is foam.





xxcysxx said:
This case loading design give me the securiy that my shafts will stay straight while it is stored in the case,
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Not sure why you believe that.

We have a lot of people here with very expensive cues that are not stored in those cases. My Joss has been kept in a Fellini since the mid seventies and is straight. I have many other cues as well, and not one single Porper case. The last Porper case I got in a cue deal I gave away to a friend. Don't get me wrong, they are just fine as cases. I just don't want to put an expensive cue in a case that leaves a ring in the finish where the foam tube hugs it.

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JB's are the best. If you do not want to spend a ton you cannot go wrong with a Guiseppee. They are first class quality.
 
I hope you use a join protector on your cue. Resting it on the pin is no bueno. I love Porper cases too. I think they are the toughest and lightest cases around at that price point. Try a JB with the ultrapad interior. Cues can be stored either way. I also like my cases in the Fellini style family.
 
the Porper case is covered by a life time warranty whether you bought it new or used.
I had the same problem with the foam going bad. I sent an e-mail to a Porper dealer (forgot which one) and got a new one for just the shipping fee which was about $5.00.
 
GoldCrown said:
JB's are the best. If you do not want to spend a ton you cannot go wrong with a Guiseppee. They are first class quality.
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I 2nd that, and completely agree. I always loved them, and for $60, they are a good value I think, and will last forever if you take good care of them.
 
folks, I'm not obsessed with joe porper's case or extruded foam, just the "tapered" tube loading design for the butt and shaft, that which happens to be only offered from porper, and surprising there are no other case maker out there that make cases like this. I don't know why.

I've been using cases of this design for years and I just prefer them this way, and I'm not specific to the porper brand or any other brand or the materials that they use, just the design. I hope you all get the idea. I will continue to look for this kind of case for a few more days and then perhaps have it custom made if I cant find one.
 
measureman said:
the Porper case is covered by a life time warranty whether you bought it new or used.
I had the same problem with the foam going bad. I sent an e-mail to a Porper dealer (forgot which one) and got a new one for just the shipping fee which was about $5.00.
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In addition it's easy enough to cut your own out using higher quality material than the original. I have done this on a couple of them that had bad foam in the lid.



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Chopdoc said:
In addition it's easy enough to cut your own out using higher quality material than the original. I have done this on a couple of them that had bad foam in the lid.



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thats a good idea.
I'm too lazy to do that.
$5.00 and a weeks wait,presto new foam.
 
Same Here!

measureman said:
the Porper case is covered by a life time warranty whether you bought it new or used.
I had the same problem with the foam going bad. I sent an e-mail to a Porper dealer (forgot which one) and got a new one for just the shipping fee which was about $5.00.
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I don't recall if I was charged shipping or not, but I called intending to purchase a top insert and they told me it was under warranty and sent it right away.
 
xxcysxx said:
folks, I'm not obsessed with joe porper's case or extruded foam, just the "tapered" tube loading design for the butt and shaft, that which happens to be only offered from porper, and surprising there are no other case maker out there that make cases like this. I don't know why.

I've been using cases of this design for years and I just prefer them this way, and I'm not specific to the porper brand or any other brand or the materials that they use, just the design. I hope you all get the idea. I will continue to look for this kind of case for a few more days and then perhaps have it custom made if I cant find one.
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The reason no one makes them any more is because the cues would tend to get stuck resulting in players having to beat the case to get the cues out. Porper's shop surely still has the ability to make them since they likely have the steel bars which form the cavities when the foam is injected into the mold.

These types of cavities do nothing to keep your cue straight. They are not form fitting and actually could do the opposite by applying lateral pressure through the center of the parts.

Some Myth Busting - http://jbcases.com/caseblog/2010/01/21/mythbusting-about-wooden-cues-and-moisture/

Our cases hold the cue gently at two points. You can place your parts in them the same way as you can in the old Porper cases with tapered cavities. The difference is that there is no lateral pressure on the cue parts through the center.

Anyway, ask Mueller's - they can probably make one for you just like the old ones.
 
JB Cases said:
Porper's shop surely still has the ability to make them since they likely have the steel bars which form the cavities when the foam is injected into the mold.
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Porper doesn't make them like that anymore?

Nothing against your cases and I'd like to try one someday, but I haven't yet and the reason is that my 20 year old Porper is still getting it done. The only thing I've run into that was mentioned is that the cues tends to get slightly stuck because of the taper, though stuck is a bit of an overstatement. That's easily solved with joint protectors and/or shoving a piece of foam down the tube to elevate the cues slightly so they're not gripped by the taper, yet the taper still keeps them from rattling around.

Frankly, the only cases I would even consider at this point are Porpers and yours, assuming that Porper still makes them with the tapered interior. Most other cases I've seen have serious deficiencies.
 
john coloccia said:
Porper doesn't make them like that anymore?

Nothing against your cases and I'd like to try one someday, but I haven't yet and the reason is that my 20 year old Porper is still getting it done. The only thing I've run into that was mentioned is that the cues tends to get slightly stuck because of the taper, though stuck is a bit of an overstatement. That's easily solved with joint protectors and/or shoving a piece of foam down the tube to elevate the cues slightly so they're not gripped by the taper, yet the taper still keeps them from rattling around.

Frankly, the only cases I would even consider at this point are Porpers and yours, assuming that Porper still makes them with the tapered interior. Most other cases I've seen have serious deficiencies.
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I don't know that they would make the cases with the tapered cavities but I am sure that they could. Knowing how they are made I am fairly confident that the parts are still there on the shelf.

Stuck is not an overstatement. Trust me I have owned several and dealt with hundreds of them over the past 25 years. Even when the cavity is stuffed with something the result is often that the bottom blows out and the cues get stuck anyway.

You haven't really owned a Porper old style until you have beat on it to get your cues out :-)

The whole reason I started adding foam rubber to tubes when I founded Instroke was to emulate the Porper's ability to grip the cues. I wanted to combine that feature with the use of plastic tubes.

I have achieved that now in a better way than using expanding foam.

Our cases will do everything that the old Porper cases did but better because they allow the parts to be inserted however the user feels most comfortable. And they are flexible enough to handle various cue diameters. Also ours will handle cue parts up to 31.5" right out of the box. 32.5" for the Rugged models.
 
GoldCrown said:
JB's are the best. If you do not want to spend a ton you cannot go wrong with a Guiseppee. They are first class quality.
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I agree 100%.

The best bang for the buck and great protection is Giuseppe. You cannot beat one of their cases and I've been saying it for years on AZB.

Another great case on the market right now are Predator cases. Great sporty look and great protection.
 
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JB Cases said:
Stuck is not an overstatement. Trust me I have owned several and dealt with hundreds of them over the past 25 years. Even when the cavity is stuffed with something the result is often that the bottom blows out and the cues get stuck anyway.

You haven't really owned a Porper old style until you have beat on it to get your cues out :-)
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I've had to beat on it to get cues out, but that's only because some cues sit lower than others, and if a butt/shaft sits too low then there's nothing to grip. Again, easily solvable with joint protectors, which are a good idea anyhow. It's just that you're making it seem like they're in there with some sort of death grip. Yeah, they may not just fall out if you turn the case over unless you shake it or beat on it, but it's not like they're difficult to get out. You just need it to sit high enough so there's something to grip. I will agree with you that if you just toss cues in there willy nilly, some will be very well behaved and others will be very aggravating.

I'm also not sure what you mean about the bottom blowing out. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I just don't understand what that means. Do cues just fall out the bottom because the interior/exterior fall apart? It's hard to imagine but you've seen a lot more Porpers up close than I have (I've only really seen one...my own).

Anyhow, I look forward to trying one of your cases. My Porper is old and tired, and I want more storage. Seems like I carry more and more to the pool hall these days....cue rest, chalk, bridge, towel, tip maintenance stuff, spare contact lenses, etc etc. Does anyone remember going to a pool hall with exactly 1 cue in a box case and nothing else? I know I used to do that, but I'd feel naked and unprepared if I tried that now.
 
dom_poppa said:
I agree 100%.

The best bang for the buck and great protection is Giuseppe. You cannot beat one of their cases and I've been saying it for years on AZB.

Another great case on the market right now are Predator cases. Great sporty look and great protection.
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Disagree 100%.

The best bang for the buck is a JB Case. Superior protection that is present from day one. Lifetime warranty. Practically unlimited design.

We can certainly "beat" any Guiseppe case and any Predator case in a side-by-side comparison.

If anyone wants to compare then list the reasons why you think a Guiseppe is better and I will post my rebuttal and the audience can decide.
 
john coloccia said:
I've had to beat on it to get cues out, but that's only because some cues sit lower than others, and if a butt/shaft sits too low then there's nothing to grip. Again, easily solvable with joint protectors, which are a good idea anyhow. It's just that you're making it seem like they're in there with some sort of death grip. Yeah, they may not just fall out if you turn the case over unless you shake it or beat on it, but it's not like they're difficult to get out. You just need it to sit high enough so there's something to grip. I will agree with you that if you just toss cues in there willy nilly, some will be very well behaved and others will be very aggravating.

I'm also not sure what you mean about the bottom blowing out. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I just don't understand what that means. Do cues just fall out the bottom because the interior/exterior fall apart? It's hard to imagine but you've seen a lot more Porpers up close than I have (I've only really seen one...my own).

Anyhow, I look forward to trying one of your cases. My Porper is old and tired, and I want more storage. Seems like I carry more and more to the pool hall these days....cue rest, chalk, bridge, towel, tip maintenance stuff, spare contact lenses, etc etc. Does anyone remember going to a pool hall with exactly 1 cue in a box case and nothing else? I know I used to do that, but I'd feel naked and unprepared if I tried that now.
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I was told a story once about the early foam core cases. A retailer got in a batch and wanted to show one off. So he sticks a cue in it and the cue won't come out. He and several customers have to beat on the case, banging it on chair to get it to release the bound up cue.

For the bottoms, it's actually a common problem with these types of cases that the cue will stress the bottom and poke through the material and cause the thread to fail.

Ours in contrast are set up to withstand that type of stress by not only cushioning the descent of the cue into the case but also by the virtue of being built quite strongly. I just had a guy come to me with a case he has carried for a year where we forgot to put the nails in the bottom. The bottom was secure and hadn't budged an inch.
 
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