looking for full splices
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jonpador said:
Assuming you mean traditional full splice with veneers. I don't think Barry Szamboti does and maybe not Tascarella. I think just Hercek, Bear, and John Davis.
Arnot makes a full splice without veneers - I don't know if he will make them with veneers:
http://www.arnotq.com/pages/21/21.html
Chris
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TATE said:
Hello Chris you are right on target, neither Tascaralla or Barry Szamboti make full splice butts.
But, I know of a cue maker that makes his own Full Splice Butts, and that is Paul Huebler.
Huebler has been making Full Spliced butts since the 70's. However, I do not want to confuse anyone, not all Huebler cues are Full Slice Construction.
Paul's company has been splicing his own sneaky petes since they started making them in the late 70's.
Along with this, many of his high end butts that are wrapped are also Full Splice construction and you can also order special customs that are built Full Splice.
Craig
jonpador said:
Tascarella's earlier full splice cues were conversions of existing full splice cues, as were many Balabushka's (which is his tradition).
If you don't want to order a Hercek, which would be my first choice (for a lot of reasons), my suggestion is you find a blank, such as a Titlist, an old Adam cue, or a new John Davis blank, then ask a cue maker to make a cue for you. Here is a thread on the new blanks being made by John Davis (Burton Spain's assistant and partner over 30 years ago):
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=36966
John will be making some full length, full splice blanks shortly. I can tell you his work is super clean -it's not easy to be really precise with this sort of cue making, but John has worked at it. The advantage of this is you can order what you like in terms of woods and colors.
I've also seen some really nice Titlists coming out of PFD studios - definitely worth checking into if you want a Titlist conversion.
Chris
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simmer1 already mentioned Scott Whisler, and I have to recommend checking him out. He uses unique technique that gives razor sharp points on both the top and bottom. I can't say enough good things things about his work.
Chris, arnot does make full splices with veneers .. see the link belowTATE said:
http://www.arnotq.com/pages/737/737.html
desert1pocket said:
I'll have to check that out. It's more work to make all the points sharp and it's certainly a desirable look on a wrapless cue. The Arnot above has sharp inside points too.
It's nice to see some cue makers offering this form of cue building.
Chris
Full splice blanks
You may stand corrected about Tascarella full splices. He has brought many out of his shop to show how they're assembled in stages to the pool hall where I play at. He's been making them from the "ground up" for years now. It's just not something many people know about and everyone just assumes he finishes other makers' blanks. Ha, what a joke! Wanna know what one plays like? Just ask Ginky.
You may stand corrected about Tascarella full splices. He has brought many out of his shop to show how they're assembled in stages to the pool hall where I play at. He's been making them from the "ground up" for years now. It's just not something many people know about and everyone just assumes he finishes other makers' blanks. Ha, what a joke! Wanna know what one plays like? Just ask Ginky.
skins said:
It also takes veneer material that is consistent in thickness, something the veneer industry is either lacking in, or not capable of. Just a few thousandths difference in thickness can have an effect on inner point length. It aggravates me to no end to see points differing in length.
veneers
From what I have seen from Pete is that the veneers are glued up in strips. He dyes and cuts his own veneer stock also. When he assembles the veneers together, they form a "V" and they are then fitted under each point of the lower half of the butt section. Then the nose section of the forearm is fitted to that. The secret to getting razor sharp points where the veneers come together at the points illude many cuemakers and sometimes leave a slight gap there. But when you assemble a forearm this way, The veneers are full depth and when the stock is turned precisely "on center" it will produce a razor sharp effect. (providing you measured and assembled properly.
Pete considers this method the traditional full splice with veneers. He has always made them this way to my knowlege.
From what I have seen from Pete is that the veneers are glued up in strips. He dyes and cuts his own veneer stock also. When he assembles the veneers together, they form a "V" and they are then fitted under each point of the lower half of the butt section. Then the nose section of the forearm is fitted to that. The secret to getting razor sharp points where the veneers come together at the points illude many cuemakers and sometimes leave a slight gap there. But when you assemble a forearm this way, The veneers are full depth and when the stock is turned precisely "on center" it will produce a razor sharp effect. (providing you measured and assembled properly.
Pete considers this method the traditional full splice with veneers. He has always made them this way to my knowlege.
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Veneer Thickness
It is a simple matter to sand thicker veneers to the correct size so that everything is the same.
Good Cuemaking,
TellsItLikeItIs said:
It is a simple matter to sand thicker veneers to the correct size so that everything is the same.
Good Cuemaking,