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Hi there i joined the cpa league and realize i need a lot of work. I want to buy a good aiming system dvds. I've been looking around online and cte pro 1 looks pretty good. what is your recommendation and where can i find them. p.s. i live in canada so they have to be shipped here. Thanks let me know please.
 
Hi there i joined the cpa league and realize i need a lot of work. I want to buy a good aiming system dvds. I've been looking around online and cte pro 1 looks pretty good. what is your recommendation and where can i find them. p.s. i live in canada so they have to be shipped here. Thanks let me know please.

To be good player you have to try everything under the sun, buy all of them, buy different cues, and eventually you will understand pool. CJ's TOI system is not bad but not sure if it is recommended for beginners.

What ever you do, do not just go down on a shot without lining up CB & OB like you would line up a Carrom Game Board disks and finding out the contact point, because once you down you only can do fine adjustment, if you far off you will force and steer the cb and will miss, eventually you will be quick at it.Remember you have to take into account CB path to OB as well as throw and spin, and lastly quit pool if you are not going to follow through with every shot. Good luck.


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Hi there i joined the cpa league and realize i need a lot of work. I want to buy a good aiming system dvds. I've been looking around online and cte pro 1 looks pretty good. what is your recommendation and where can i find them. p.s. i live in canada so they have to be shipped here. Thanks let me know please.

This thread will get a bunch of bashers and opponents of aiming systems. And after 10 pages of trash, may get moved or deleted.

Find a local pro to give you a lesson. It will give you better immediate results IMO.

Best of luck to you. Genomachino is in Ohio right now. Not sure if he'd be close enough to the border for you or not.
 
Hi there i joined the cpa league and realize i need a lot of work. I want to buy a good aiming system dvds. I've been looking around online and cte pro 1 looks pretty good. what is your recommendation and where can i find them. p.s. i live in canada so they have to be shipped here. Thanks let me know please.

There are lots of systems and no short cuts.. Well actually, the short cut is the system that works best for you.. The trick is finding it. You try them all until you find the one that works best for you, then you fine tune it to fit you.
 
CJ has an Ultimate Secrets DVD that is geared to beginner & intermediate players but his 'aiming' method is sort of the reverse as he aligns different sections of the CB to just the center & edge of the OB.

I gravitated to an equal & opposite fractional overlap method that is very much like Jimmy Reid's. I would suggest his.

Also I would wait for the new CTE/Pro1 dvd to come & get it.

All this said, I would suggest that you check out CJ Wiley's TOI playing method.

Best of Luck on your Journey,
Rick
 
Hi there i joined the cpa league and realize i need a lot of work. I want to buy a good aiming system dvds. I've been looking around online and cte pro 1 looks pretty good. what is your recommendation and where can i find them. p.s. i live in canada so they have to be shipped here. Thanks let me know please.

Understand that no aiming system will work until you get your fundamentals down pat. None are a "magic pill". They all take dedicated work. That said, I played many years without an aiming system, and now use several. I really wish I had learned them many years ago. This generation is truly blessed with them.

Once you have your fundamentals down pat, and can reliably shoot a straight line, the aiming systems are a huge short cut to learning to pocket balls.
 
Not to be rude or condescending, but it sounds like you're looking for a quick fix. Of course, there is no such thing. However, some "systems" are easier than others.

For a beginner, hard to beat Dr. Dave's VEPS DVD set. There's plenty online about Ghostball, fractional, stick aiming, etc.. They're simple systems, you don't need a DVD to understand them. The Perfect Aim System by Gene Albrecht is good stuff as well.

I happen to think CTE/Pro One is by far the best system out there. However, it isn't something you're going to pick up with a few hours of table time.

And then you have CJ's TOI and aiming DVD. I don't know much about it, however, there are a number of people here who have worked with his material and could comment.

Honestly, the first and most important thing you need to get are basic fundamentals, a solid per shot routine and of highest priority, a straight stroke. No aiming system works unless you can hit the spot you're aiming at. I'd strongly recommend you find a reputable local instructor and take a few lessons.

Good luck!
 
I agree with Neil.

No aiming system will do you very much good at all until you can send the white ball precisely to where you want to send it.

The two go hand in hand & one without the other will not do you much good.

Neil is versed on several aiming systems as he says. I would suggest that if you hear of any that you get interested in, then get his opinion on it before you buy.

Best,
Rick

PS If you consider any of CJ Wiley's, get both of our opinions & then make your own determination.:wink:
 
Understand that no aiming system will work until you get your fundamentals down pat. None are a "magic pill". They all take dedicated work.

100% agree.

So many of us users have said similar things in the past.

I really wish this would get stickied in the Aiming forum so people would have a better idea of what system users actually believe.
 
Like others have said there is no magic pill, and we have no idea where your game is at. The best thing would be to work with a qualified instructor. That being said I would suggest these.

For overall information and fundamentals you should look at what Max Eberle has available, really good information.

For training aids Joe Tucker has the best in the business IMHO.

For aiming systems I think Pro1 is the best, but it does take a while to really understand and does take practice just like everything else.

No matter how you aim you have to know that you are seeing it from the right perspective. For that I would suggest getting to a table with a Bluetooth headset on and get genomachino on the phone. You may be surprised how much he can help you.

Woody
 
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C Clarke
 
Hi there i joined the cpa league and realize i need a lot of work. I want to buy a good aiming system dvds. I've been looking around online and cte pro 1 looks pretty good. what is your recommendation and where can i find them. p.s. i live in canada so they have to be shipped here. Thanks let me know please.
FYI, there is a ton of information about aiming systems available online. Here's a good place to start: aiming system resource page.

I personally recommend DAM (Dave's Aiming Method).

The ghost-ball-based method demonstrated in the following video can be helpful, especially with those shots that just don't look right:
NV D.9 - How to Aim Pool Shots - from Vol-II of the Billiard University instructional DVD series

Enjoy and good luck,
Dave
 
I've used 90/90, CTE, Pro1, SEE, and even some TOI, but started out with normal ghostball type concepts, picturing overlaps and angles between the balls, etc.

If you are a beginning player, I would recommend against spending too much learning aiming systems, without good fundamentals you won't experience the full benefit. There are some side benefits with regards to building a solid preshot routine etc., but you can do that without the systems as well.

Work on fundamentals - solid stance, nice grip, straight stroke, etc. Work on nice soft - medium speed stop shots, then follow and draw. Add side spin when ready, and learn techniques for compensating for squirt and curve, watch the balls and adjust and constantly add to your internal computer and muscle memory. Watch matches and learn principles of position play and shot selection.

If you are still interested in aiming systems, check out Pro1 or SEE, probably two of the most complete systems out there right now, and both will be updated with new revisions soon.


I have links to trailers for both systems on my web page, as well as other information on drills, kicking systems, etc., check it out if interested...

Scott

http://mypoolblog.com
 
I got a message about my post, just wanted to clarify what I was trying to say.

I am definitely NOT against aiming systems - like I said, I use them pretty much on every shot. Has strengthened my game for sure, no doubt. I'm also not trying to tell you to spend money on lessons instead of an aiming system, even though I am a part time instructor I don't subscribe to the "give me money instead" routine to try and make your game better. I've had 5 lessons in my life, 3 or 4 good and 1 mediocre, I built myself into an "A" player by reading, watching, and lots of hard work all on my own.

However, not everyone can do that. I even feel at my level now that I would benefit from a mentor, coach, etc. I've been lucky enough to play with several top pros lately and hoping to do more of the same (if they would just quit traveling all over!!!), it definitely helps cement some concepts and increases my concentration.

I was inferring your skill level as a somewhat beginner from your post, hopefully I was not mistaken. I've had many conversations with people through the aiming forum about Pro1, SEE, etc., and quite often people are frustrated when trying to learn the systems. Either not enough info, or too much, and they think they are doing the steps correctly but are not. When myself or others talk to them and get into details, sometimes it help, other times it requires seeing a video or helping in person. The fact is you need both aiming and good fundamentals to be successful - if you can see the lines and the spot to hit but can't deliver the cue ball there, the aiming systems are useless. Conversely, if you have great technique but can't aim or have no speed control or knowledge or concepts, that straight stroke isn't much good either. You might get there by hitting a million balls, or putting in 10,000 hours, etc., but that's a lot of practice for most part-time pool players.

So I guess that was my motivation for my post. I would hate for you to put all of your hopes on an aiming system, get frustrated, and not progress as you should.

If you are interested, as I said, I would highly recommend Pro1 or SEE. As I said, check out trailers on my website or look up the info in the aiming forum etc. If you are interested in SEE, I can even get you the system at a 20% discount, just let me know. Would also be happy to help with any details before (to make your decision easier) or after, to help understand what you have, as well as any other questions you have.

Good luck!
Scott
 
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Good points Scott.

A good aiming method & a good stroke go hand in hand. One without the other is useless & spending much time & money on either one while neglecting the other seems to be counter intuitive to me.

Neglecting one or the other can even lead to a person questioning the effectiveness of the aspect that has received the most attention of the time & money, as you eluded.

'$1,000 & 6 months of practicing my stroke & I still can't pocket balls worth a damn.'

Or...

'$50.00 & a month studying this aiming method & I still can't pocket balls worth a damn.'

The wrong aspect is probably being blamed as the culprit.

A good aiming method & a good stroke go hand & hand & should be learned together IMO.

Naturally all of the above are just my humble opinions.

Scott,

Best Regards & Best Wishes,
Rick
 
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Pick one or more.

You can start with a free phone lesson from Gene Albrecht of Perfect Aim. If you like what you hear you can move on to an in person lesson or simply purchase the DVD.

After you learn Perfect Aim, you can move on to CTE/Pro 1.

I would be remiss if I didn't mention Lee Brett's Instructional DVD
or Max Eberle's POWERFUL POOL fundamentals DVD.

They are all good.
www.perfectaimbilliards.com
www.justcueit.com
http://leebrettpool.com/
http://maxeberle.com/

There are a few jealous types that will try to influence you by knocking others but don't let that deter you from acquiring aiming knowledge quickly by learning an aiming system or two.

As Neil has mentioned, good fundamentals are critical to a consistent game but adding an aiming system can only help your game.

JoeyA
 
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