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Looks like Efren Reyes and Cliff Joyner are matching up already. Playing one pocket and Efren is giving Cliff 8-7. Race to 11 for a pretty serious sum.
 
Jimmy M. said:
I heard that match was supposed to take place. Keep us posted! :)
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The match was Race to 11, Efren giving Joyner 8-7.

Now, for those that simply don't know, these are the two best one-pocket players in the game right now.

Joyner is a relatively aggressive player with professional pocketing skills. His moves are technically perfect and are nearly always the "correct" choice.

Reyes is... a magician. He's always playing shots that simply aren't in the book, but playing them with fantastic results. He combines billiard-style cueball control with the world's greatest pool game. He is an excellent banker and the game's greatest kicker. All of this skills become all too evident in a long one-pocket session.

If it wasn't for Joyner's amazing one-pocket talent, the final score would have been worse. It seemed that every time Reyes left the table, Cliff was unable to pull out his aggresive game. Unless a player was there watching, words cannot describe it. So I won't try. Reyes is Reyes. If you've never seen him in one-hole action, you need to. There weren't enough buckets to collect the oohs and ahhs hanging in the air and left on the floor.

I would never have guessed anyone could have rolled over CLiff so easily, but Reyes did. And after a few games, Cliff was left hoping for rolls while Reyes was breezing through him as if he was just another nobody. Reyes was a surgeon. When I have more time and more rest, I'll do some WEI diagrams.

Final score 11-4. But it wasn't that close. Cliff made two nice outs down 10-2, while Reyes started to fall asleep. In Reyes' final game, Cliff tossed in the towel (literally) while Reyes was shooting for seven.

Until tomorrow's Bank Results,

Fred
 
Fred Agnir said:
The match was Race to 11, Efren giving Joyner 8-7.

Now, for those that simply don't know, these are the two best one-pocket players in the game right now.

Joyner is a relatively aggressive player with professional pocketing skills. His moves are technically perfect and are nearly always the "correct" choice.

Reyes is... a magician. He's always playing shots that simply aren't in the book, but playing them with fantastic results. He combines billiard-style cueball control with the world's greatest pool game. He is an excellent banker and the game's greatest kicker. All of this skills become all too evident in a long one-pocket session.
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Thanks for the report, Fred. As usual, Efren's insight and creativity blow the respective minds of the onlookers. Wish I could have seen it!
 
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Fred Agnir said:
Now, for those that simply don't know, these are the two best one-pocket players in the game right now.

Fred
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I'd put Marco Marquez up there with them.

later, Pel
 
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Fred Agnir said:
The match was Race to 11, Efren giving Joyner 8-7.

Now, for those that simply don't know, these are the two best one-pocket players in the game right now.

Joyner is a relatively aggressive player with professional pocketing skills. His moves are technically perfect and are nearly always the "correct" choice.

Reyes is... a magician. He's always playing shots that simply aren't in the book, but playing them with fantastic results. He combines billiard-style cueball control with the world's greatest pool game. He is an excellent banker and the game's greatest kicker. All of this skills become all too evident in a long one-pocket session.

If it wasn't for Joyner's amazing one-pocket talent, the final score would have been worse. It seemed that every time Reyes left the table, Cliff was unable to pull out his aggresive game. Unless a player was there watching, words cannot describe it. So I won't try. Reyes is Reyes. If you've never seen him in one-hole action, you need to. There weren't enough buckets to collect the oohs and ahhs hanging in the air and left on the floor.

I would never have guessed anyone could have rolled over CLiff so easily, but Reyes did. And after a few games, Cliff was left hoping for rolls while Reyes was breezing through him as if he was just another nobody. Reyes was a surgeon. When I have more time and more rest, I'll do some WEI diagrams.

Final score 11-4. But it wasn't that close. Cliff made two nice outs down 10-2, while Reyes started to fall asleep. In Reyes' final game, Cliff tossed in the towel (literally) while Reyes was shooting for seven.

Until tomorrow's Bank Results,

Fred
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Fred, I just wanted to say thank you for a great posting of the action between Efren and Cliff. I'm just another pool fan that didn't make it to Louisville this year. I check this forum for posts exactly like yours to learn about what's happening ACTION-wise; your post was not only extremely descriptive and informative, but eloquent as well....here's hoping you continue to let us AZ forum fans know what's going on there....Thanks again........ MW from Alameda, Calif.
 
Wait does that mean that Efren needed 7. Or he was shooting in his 7th ball. If they were playing for a big pile of marbles why would Cliff throw in the towel? It presumably wasnt all of his to give up. If I was a backer I'd want him to go all the way. It was Jersey Red who said "never give up till the last ball is pocketed."
Thanks for the postings Fred!
 
yobagua said:
Wait does that mean that Efren needed 7. Or he was shooting in his 7th ball. If they were playing for a big pile of marbles why would Cliff throw in the towel? It presumably wasnt all of his to give up. If I was a backer I'd want him to go all the way. It was Jersey Red who said "never give up till the last ball is pocketed."
Thanks for the postings Fred!
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Efre was shooting at his 7th ball. Efren needed 8. Joyner threw in towel. It was odd, but if you could have seen the total drubbing, you would have agreed that it was a classy resignation.

Fred
 
yobagua said:
Wait does that mean that Efren needed 7. Or he was shooting in his 7th ball. If they were playing for a big pile of marbles why would Cliff throw in the towel? It presumably wasnt all of his to give up. If I was a backer I'd want him to go all the way. It was Jersey Red who said "never give up till the last ball is pocketed."
Thanks for the postings Fred!
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In the world match play golf finals, a match with $1,000,000 riding on it, putts are routinely conceded. Thankfully, the top golfers never met Jersey Red, whose insistence that a truly hopeless cause should never be conceded is at odds with good sportsmanship. Good for Cliff, for a display of good sportsmanship in front of many.
 
Can't wait for the WEIs you promised, Fred!

Oh, and classic, yes, PoolBum! So, clear this up for us...Falling asleep between shots, or during his own?!?

-piga
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Cliff made two nice outs down 10-2, while Reyes started to fall asleep.

Fred



Now that's a classic line.
 
yobagua said:
It was Jersey Red who said "never give up till the last ball is pocketed."
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Ha! Jersey Red was a quitter. I often don't give up until long after the last ball has been pocketed.
 
How much was the "serious sum"?

The Railbird said:
Looks like Efren Reyes and Cliff Joyner are matching up already. Playing one pocket and Efren is giving Cliff 8-7. Race to 11 for a pretty serious sum.
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I was there last year when those two played under the same conditions. Same final result. I never was interested in one pocket untill I watched Efrin play the game at Derby City last year. There is more to the game than I first thought.
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piglit said:
Can't wait for the WEIs you promised, Fred!

Oh, and classic, yes, PoolBum! So, clear this up for us...Falling asleep between shots, or during his own?!?
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It was about 4:00 AM. Reyes is up 10-2 racing to 11. He got a little loose while Cliff stages one last aggressive charge. So, he was sort of falling asleep mentally.

Fred
 
Fred, many, many, thanks for the update and the insights. I guess that sometimes I don't appreciate how fortunate I have been being able to watch Efren many times when he is in So. Calif at Hard Times. In the past few weeks I have watched im play 1 Pocket against several players giving up a ton of weight (11-5) watched him at the Bicycle Club playing 9 Ball and the day before he left for DCC playing 3 Cushion at Hard Times. What a treat!! He is such a class act. Whether he is playing for $50.00 or 1,000 he is the same mellow person and richly deserves his nickname of the "Magician"
 
What's Efren doing giving up a ball against Joyner? LOL
Efren might not be on some people's top 5 one-pocket player of all time but he's giving up weight to the best one-holers of today.
I wonder if anyone would play him even now.
 
> Efren has sucessfully given Cliff 10-7,according to several witnesses,3 or 4 different times,and always won. With this being apparently common knowledge,I can't see how anyone would stake Cliff to play with any less than that,not taking anything away from the best non-Efren one pocket player in the world. Cliff is awesome when in gear,but as good a 9-ball player as Efren is,his superiority over the entire planet playing one-hole is even more clearly defined. Tommy D.
 
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