Low Cost Cues under $100

[Grumpy]

Quality

Schmelke might be the only one in the bunch.

Could you offer a suggestion for a "quality" cue under $100.
If McDermott, Viking, Schmelke or any of the cues listed on the poll are not quality, than what is? Under $100?
I'm sticking with the Schmelke suggestion.

 

[MilwShooter]

an opinion is a personal view so facts aren't really the issue. i could say that in my opinion subway doesn't taste as good as quiznos and not have facts to back it up. that doesn't make my opinion wrong (because it's mine)

actually i work for a honda dealership and i am carrying on this debate (if you can call it that) on my employers comp

That actually IS a fact. When comparing the tastes of foods, you are comparing them to your likes and dislikes, creating a sort of "checklist" in your head of what you do and do not prefer. This is the same way facts are created...A checklist of data that is compared and then given forth for others to compare. So, in the case of which you prefer, that would be a FACT that everyone would agree with. We would all have to agree with the FACT that you prefer one over the other. I'm not trying to get into a debate, nor trying to upset anyone. Just trying to shed a little light on why that argument could be stronger for the opposing side of your debate.

(I learned it in some sort of debate class I had to take YEARS ago. Anytime someone says "IMO" it's fact as far as they are concerned and you can't argue their opinions any further)


IMO :thumbup:

 

[crawfish]

A buddy of mine bought a Eliminator Sneaky for $30 bucks. Damn thing plays good. I used it on our last "trip."

 

[chin0]

I say you two already made your stance, let's just all let it go and let ie be all hugs and kisses guys. It is all personal opinions and as Americans we are entitle to that, and there is one thing no matter what that makes us have one thing in common. It is the love of billiard that brought us all here together.

Happy shooting!

Chino

 

[Grumpy]

There was nothing discourteous in my post, it was a simple opinion that you overreacted to as usual when the C word comes out.

See Grumpy's post.

It was a courteous discussion on cues until that point.

 

[musicman]

Howdy all:

Last year, I found a line of cues for reasonable prices that, in my opinion, are every bit as good as McDermotts or Vikings. Nic Varner Cues range in price from about $60 to several hundred. My Nick Varner Sneaky Pete is about $80 and there are several levels of cue in the $100 range from him. they feel good, hit great and seem to be very good quality.

You can't buy them from the Nick Varner website unless you are a dealer but you can take a look at them and there is a dealer locater on the site, I believe. www.nickvarner.com .

 

[poolplayer2093]

That actually IS a fact. When comparing the tastes of foods, you are comparing them to your likes and dislikes, creating a sort of "checklist" in your head of what you do and do not prefer. This is the same way facts are created...A checklist of data that is compared and then given forth for others to compare. So, in the case of which you prefer, that would be a FACT that everyone would agree with. We would all have to agree with the FACT that you prefer one over the other. I'm not trying to get into a debate, nor trying to upset anyone. Just trying to shed a little light on why that argument could be stronger for the opposing side of your debate.

(I learned it in some sort of debate class I had to take YEARS ago. Anytime someone says "IMO" it's fact as far as they are concerned and you can't argue their opinions any further)


IMO :thumbup:

you guys arer looking way too deep into this. i'd still say it's not a fact because someone else could prefer quiznos

but hay what do i know. all i do is sell hondas

 

[poolplayer2093]

Howdy all:

Last year, I found a line of cues for reasonable prices that, in my opinion, are every bit as good as McDermotts or Vikings. Nic Varner Cues range in price from about $60 to several hundred. My Nick Varner Sneaky Pete is about $80 and there are several levels of cue in the $100 range from him. they feel good, hit great and seem to be very good quality.

You can't buy them from the Nick Varner website unless you are a dealer but you can take a look at them and there is a dealer locater on the site, I believe. www.nickvarner.com .

i ran into a guy that had one of these and i was surprised at how well it played

 

[Richardson]

Try a bar cue, you wont notice much differance.

 

[Flex]

No.

Dale had some pretty nice "custom" 1/1 stuff once upon a time and charged accordingly.

He somehow decided to begin selling his own wares on ebay and bottomed out the market for his stuff.

Cues very similar to what I paid 800 for were going for dirt cheap and still are. Doesn't make the cue less playable, but it sure sucks to have been stuck that way. I keep mine out of principal...and because I can never recoup what I paid if I were to resell.

That's quite interesting. I'm sorry to hear the market has fallen out on the cue you purchased.

Just wondering: are the cues he's selling on eBay basically the same quality as the one you paid $800 for? If so, it sounds to me like they are a bargain, a true bargain. Or are they less well-made in some way?

Flex

 

[JB Cases]

Sorry Ralf - Last One!

 

[poolplayer2093]

Sorry Ralf - Last One!

Last?..........

 

[Mr. Wilson]

That's quite interesting. I'm sorry to hear the market has fallen out on the cue you purchased.

Just wondering: are the cues he's selling on eBay basically the same quality as the one you paid $800 for? If so, it sounds to me like they are a bargain, a true bargain. Or are they less well-made in some way?

Flex

To be quite honest...I can't see myself ever buying another cue of his.

Not because of construction etc....but because I resent what happened.


That said, I don't know the difference between the cues then vs. now.
Everything I've heard suggests they are still good quality..but I won't ever trust enough to spend again.

 

[poolplayer2093]

To be quite honest...I can't see myself ever buying another cue of his.

Not because of construction etc....but because I resent what happened.


That said, I don't know the difference between the cues then vs. now.
Everything I've heard suggests they are still good quality..but I won't ever trust enough to spend again.

i hear that his earlier cues (pre ebay fiasco) were pretty good.

 

[Mr. Wilson]

i hear that his earlier cues (pre ebay fiasco) were pretty good.

Mine plays just fine.

It isn't my trusty Huebler that I have played with for 25 years and will keep til my dying day...but it is "ok".

 

[PetToilet]

i've heard a lot of Schmelke, which model/pricerange do they start getting good? There are some for.. $20??

 

[OrigZaphod]

I believe in the USA too but it's not in the USA that says the best way to protect it is to build a wall and make it an island.

You seem to conveniently forget, or maybe you just never knew, that the manufacturing workers in the United States of America were once the lowest class, not the middle class. At one time they had to work 12 hour days for low wages and face abusive working conditions.

What changed?

As America's workers became more skilled and educated they began to organize and demand better conditions and better pay.

I find it a sad state that you want to highlight the worst conditions to make your point and in the same breath you want to make sure that those conditions endure by taking away any chance for the people in China to achieve what the American worker has achieved.

Why is it that you and other's think that business OWES you a job? You say moving jobs overseas is never a good thing. Maybe not for the person who loses that job but it's good for the millions of other hardworking Americans who invested into that company and sees more income flowing to the them in the form of higher dividends. It's good for the millions of Americans whose retirement account goes up in value because the companies in that portfolio are making more profits.

Why does this always end up being a lesson on the economy? When a job ends in one sector then it creates space in another. It's called displacement. Who mourned for the buggy makers and horse dealers when automobiles came along? Do you rag on the factory in the USA that moves it's operations from California to Alabama because it's cheaper there or because Alabama promises tax breaks and free training for the workers (tax payer funded subsidies). Do you rag on the factory that installs machines to do what humans previously did?

Why do you think business owes you a job?

Business is started with the GOAL of making money. Not as a social endeavor, not as charity, not as a babysitter. In order to make money business has tasks that need to be done and it pays the lowest possible price for those tasks.

If your company paid one supplier twice the going rate for something that wasn't any better then you'd scream that they are fools and know nothing about business. Yet when it comes to labor you expect business to pay five or ten times what it could get the labor for elsewhere.

Why do you think business owes you a job?

Business owes you nothing. Business will pay you whatever you can negotiate for yourself and whatever your collective union (communist idea) can negotiate. Business will employ you and pay you for your labor as long as it is profitable to do so and as long as you provide service that brings the business value. Your labor is a commodity, nothing more nothing less.

Do you complain if someone walks into your business and tells management that they will do your job for half of your pay? Do you think management should not consider that offer? If you were in management's position what would you do if a qualified and experienced person offered to work for half of the current salary of your existing employee?

Maybe that person has no debt and lives in a tiny shack and lives on just bread and water and is completely content with that. Should management consider your mortgage, two kids, two cars, five tvs, cable and internet fees, and your golf club membership and decide that the business has an obligation to fund all that?

It's not as cut and dried as just "Buy American".


And P.S. I'd like to wrap myself in the Flag too by mentioning that I was in the Air Force. I know we weren't as tough as you Marines but still I took the same oath you did.

From one fly boy to another, Amen. WE the workers have failed here, WE have allowed the exportation of our jobs simply because WE got greedy, WE want more for less, PERIOD.

Dennis