Yeah buddy that number is an utter crock of bull.
Hide is not 1.75” thick not even close
Full grain leather is unsplit and just have hair removed.
Deer hide ain’t thick either
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Yeah buddy that number is an utter crock of bull.
Hide is not 1.75” thick not even close
Full grain leather is unsplit and just have hair removed.
Deer hide ain’t thick either
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This feels like it’s off by a factor of 10. Cowhide as far as I know is about 4-6mm. I’m sure someone can find a legit site that shows that water buffalo is typically thicker.
Yeah, I thought it was a little hard to believe too...?
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Yeah I’d think with 1.75” thick leather the jump on the back a bramas neck would be taller and go all the way to its ass
. Do the humpty hump
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Yeah I’d think with 1.75” thick leather the jump on the back a bramas neck would be taller and go all the way to its ass
Do the humpty hump
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One cow make enough belt to raise up every slabbing pant in merica
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Pretty much all cowhide leather has been split to get the weight the manufacturer wants for the type of finished leather product to be made. Most of it will be cut down to 10 ounce or less which is 5/32" thick. This is good for belts and saddles and other items which may be tooled. I have seen a piece of finished leather which was over 1/2 " thick and hard as all get out.
Upholstery and fabric leathers will be about 2 to 4 ounce and easy to stitch.
Shoe sole leather is what is called plated or semi-plated which means it was wetted stretched and rolled to make it a lot more dense and hard surfaced to wear better as a shoe sole.
I've carved and tooled leather for 40 years so I've seen a little of it and also was a building inspector and had several remodeling projects to inspect at the Scholze Tannery, an old style vegetable tanning cowhide tannery. An awful smelling place and I always had to go through the whole plant to get to the work site. Stacks and stacks of raw cow hides on palates that came in by train.
Upholstery and fabric leathers will be about 2 to 4 ounce and easy to stitch.
Shoe sole leather is what is called plated or semi-plated which means it was wetted stretched and rolled to make it a lot more dense and hard surfaced to wear better as a shoe sole.
I've carved and tooled leather for 40 years so I've seen a little of it and also was a building inspector and had several remodeling projects to inspect at the Scholze Tannery, an old style vegetable tanning cowhide tannery. An awful smelling place and I always had to go through the whole plant to get to the work site. Stacks and stacks of raw cow hides on palates that came in by train.
I don't know if the leather belt my daddy whupped my a$$ with was chrome-tanned, oak-tanned, or vegetable-tanned, but it worked real good and rarely missed. (It was pretty thick too, till my a$$ wore it down a bit! lol
Looks like it
- maybe it's a typo and they meant 4.5mm?So how are thicker non-layered tips made?
pj
chgo
Looks like it
So how are thicker non-layered tips made?
pj
chgo
exactly.....tho remember sort of like wood leather has its own binders......maybe at particular temps they can shred and reconstitute with its own natural glues?
or do they heat and mush it to make it taller? lol
Reminds me of a time when I was still doing leather work. I had a lady ask me for a 20' leather dog leash and collar set. I asked her, "When was the last time you saw a 20' long cow?" :grin-angelic:
She now has a really nice leather dog collar, and nylon leash with leather trim. :grin:
She now has a really nice leather dog collar, and nylon leash with leather trim. :grin:
That sounds more reasonable, and consistent to where single layer tips eventually end up. I also think water buffalo hide is probably thicker than cow hide, but I think over time, both types were used.
If the OP is still serious about making tips, I would say the hardest part would be doing the tanning. I don't think it's any small feat to find enough oak bark and process it for tanning, and I suspect chromium is no easy task either. However, here's a bit of a footnote. Supposedly, when French Champions were the standard, and I'm talking 60s and 70s, the French guy who made them supposedly buried the leather, or cut tips, not sure which, in his back yard, for a period of time, not sure how long. Not sure if that took the place of tanning or not. But I can see how it might work. Not gonna try it any time soon though.
All the best,
WW
Tanning.............
The words sulfuric acid, cow dung and urine are enough to keep me away from any tanning experiments. Its one NASTY process even today.
The town I grew up in had a tannery that operated until the late 70s early 80s. Depending on where you lived in town, you woke up to the aroma of dog shit 5 days a week. When it closed, they just walked away. Left pits full of chemicals and sludge. We used to sneak in there as kids and get spooked by the horror film ambiance.
The town also had Ashland Oil, Armco Steel and its accompanying coke plant etc. Lots of the big industrial stuff is long gone, and oddly, the medical industry is thriving there now. Seems long time residents are experiencing a lot of cancer and other assorted illnesses due to decades of exposure to the crap in the air. :frown:
I think she may have seen Jurrasic Park, and was thinking of some of those hides.:grin:
All the best,
WW
That makes me want to start a thread ( which I just might do ) called, Best Pool-loss Excuses.
In that vein, Family Billiards room owner and I were at a tournament in N. Carolina back in the early 80s and we saw Jay Swanson there. He was scuffling around with Jimmy Hodges. We had just watched him lose a match pretty badly to someone he had no business losing a race to 11. When we were talking to him, he said ( in regard to his loss ) "I over-amped on that g-damned bee pollen." We must've ( understandably ) given him an odd look, because he immediately told us Hodges had him on a diet of bee pollen which, according to Jimmy would get you in dead punch in a NY minute. Well... seemed like Jay was having second thoughts. I always thought that was a great excuse. Bee pollen. Oy vey...