Can anyone share their method for making a tip harder for breaking? Water, pressing or other ideas? Thanks. Just wondering if methods work as well as buying harder tips. Thanks.
Making Tips Harder
- Thread starter BarTableMan
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OK, first of all, you could use a small hobby vise. Flat jaws.
Altho I have break tips in stock, I like to use both Triangles and Le Pros for break tips.
I use a small hobby vise to give them a good squish before I soak them and put them in a press.
Now, I'm not saying that you would get any great results from just pressing in a vice before hand but you could try.
Did you want full instructions on how to make a break tip, soaking and pressing etc?
You would need to buy at least one of Joe Piccone's tip presses from EBay first if you are going to go the full route.
They are approx $30 and well worth it if you are going to start pressing tips.
On the other hand, I did make Duds and break tips before I got custom tip presses from Joe.
Press the tip for a bit in the vice. Soak in milk for 24 hrs. Press in the vice for 24 hrs.
You now have a genuine Milk Dud or a breaking tip.
For the people who don't want to spend a whopping 25 dollars on a break tip, I will install a pressed Triangle or a Le Pro for them.
Never had any complaints yet. They work just fine, believe me they do.
Pretty simple eh? Have fun Bud, theres more than one way to skin a cat.
Altho I have break tips in stock, I like to use both Triangles and Le Pros for break tips.
I use a small hobby vise to give them a good squish before I soak them and put them in a press.
Now, I'm not saying that you would get any great results from just pressing in a vice before hand but you could try.
Did you want full instructions on how to make a break tip, soaking and pressing etc?
You would need to buy at least one of Joe Piccone's tip presses from EBay first if you are going to go the full route.
They are approx $30 and well worth it if you are going to start pressing tips.
On the other hand, I did make Duds and break tips before I got custom tip presses from Joe.
Press the tip for a bit in the vice. Soak in milk for 24 hrs. Press in the vice for 24 hrs.
You now have a genuine Milk Dud or a breaking tip.
For the people who don't want to spend a whopping 25 dollars on a break tip, I will install a pressed Triangle or a Le Pro for them.
Never had any complaints yet. They work just fine, believe me they do.
Pretty simple eh? Have fun Bud, theres more than one way to skin a cat.
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And I forgot one other thing if you want to turn it into Rocket Science. Haha.
This is something from Joey, a good lil cue maker from CA.
Dud thickness gauge.
.220" thick, soft
.200" thick, medium
.180" thick, hard
You will need at the least, a cheap pair of calipers to measure.
I have tried to press mine at different thicknesses but I found that I preferred the .180. Don't be afraid of the Hard rating. They play very well at .180. You will get crazy amounts of draw and spin from them.
They will not mushroom nor will you have to re shape them.
After they have expanded in milk and you crank either the press or vice down as much as you can, they will pretty much come out at .180 for you every time. Unless your first name is Arnold and you were born in Austria, then I wouldn't worry about it.
For the break tips, the Triangles are considerably thicker so don't worry about cranking them down as hard as you can.
For the Le Pro, they do have a bit of coating on them. Sand that coating off the top, bottom and sides before you soak them. It will help them absorb a bit better.
Again, crank the Le Pros down as hard as you can.
The both of them make excellent break tips. They won't mushroom on you and maybe they will flatten out a bit after a few nights of breaking but you want them a little flatter anyway. Triangles and Le Pros come out at approx 50 cents a tip. Not bad eh, won't break the bank.
This concludes my latest broad cast on Milk Duds.
Happy playing and breaking.
PS - If you want to cheat, Super Pros are a very hard tip. I also use these for break and jump tips. You won't have to press them and they also come out to approx 50 centavos a tip.
This is something from Joey, a good lil cue maker from CA.
Dud thickness gauge.
.220" thick, soft
.200" thick, medium
.180" thick, hard
You will need at the least, a cheap pair of calipers to measure.
I have tried to press mine at different thicknesses but I found that I preferred the .180. Don't be afraid of the Hard rating. They play very well at .180. You will get crazy amounts of draw and spin from them.
They will not mushroom nor will you have to re shape them.
After they have expanded in milk and you crank either the press or vice down as much as you can, they will pretty much come out at .180 for you every time. Unless your first name is Arnold and you were born in Austria, then I wouldn't worry about it.
For the break tips, the Triangles are considerably thicker so don't worry about cranking them down as hard as you can.
For the Le Pro, they do have a bit of coating on them. Sand that coating off the top, bottom and sides before you soak them. It will help them absorb a bit better.
Again, crank the Le Pros down as hard as you can.
The both of them make excellent break tips. They won't mushroom on you and maybe they will flatten out a bit after a few nights of breaking but you want them a little flatter anyway. Triangles and Le Pros come out at approx 50 cents a tip. Not bad eh, won't break the bank.
This concludes my latest broad cast on Milk Duds.
Happy playing and breaking.
PS - If you want to cheat, Super Pros are a very hard tip. I also use these for break and jump tips. You won't have to press them and they also come out to approx 50 centavos a tip.
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Thanks a ton for the information. Excellent advice for me to try. I really appreciate your ideas and help.
Thanks a ton for the information. Excellent advice for me to try. I really appreciate your ideas and help.
ca
soak a elk master tip in thin CA then let it dry for 24 hrs before you install.
cheaper to buy a hard tip.
MMike
soak a elk master tip in thin CA then let it dry for 24 hrs before you install.
cheaper to buy a hard tip.
MMike