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Mark Wilson's Two MC Picks
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You've made about 50 posts since you've "joined" this month and many of them are just nonsense. Pretty sure you're just another banned member.
Suprise, suprise.
Enjoy dumbing up this thread. :wave3:
The only nonsense is the time and effort I've spent chatting with you. :wave2:
It needs to be Bergman and Woodward.
The only way we'll beat Europe is to grow our players during the year AND grow them on the Mosconi experience. Justin and Sky have earned it. They both need to get seasoned on the world's stage.
The next one I'd choose would be Archer, because he's a virtual lock to give us a good showing now. But, we have to also think about us winning this over the next 5 years as well.
Anyone who thinks Sky Woodward can't hang with Europe's boys is in for a rude awakening. He's a monster on the big track and cool as a cucumber.
I think SVB, Corey, Justin, and Sky will mesh as a team VERY well. Dechaine is the wild-card, but I would hope he could settle in and do the same.
The only way we'll beat Europe is to grow our players during the year AND grow them on the Mosconi experience. Justin and Sky have earned it. They both need to get seasoned on the world's stage.
The next one I'd choose would be Archer, because he's a virtual lock to give us a good showing now. But, we have to also think about us winning this over the next 5 years as well.
Anyone who thinks Sky Woodward can't hang with Europe's boys is in for a rude awakening. He's a monster on the big track and cool as a cucumber.
I think SVB, Corey, Justin, and Sky will mesh as a team VERY well. Dechaine is the wild-card, but I would hope he could settle in and do the same.
Guess they figured they didn't a Mosconi Team Demi -Tour or any pre-Mosconi Cup Team building events this year?
That's too bad, it seemed to have a pretty positive effect last year
That's too bad, it seemed to have a pretty positive effect last year
10-ball or 9-ball Frost vs Woodward race to 21 best 3 out of 5 for 10 geese over two nights on one of Ray or Teacherman fight nights. If tied after 4 sets double and race to 31 on a third night. 4 1/2 by 9 only.
Which players and stakehorses that show interest in this proposal may answer a lot of questions,
Which players and stakehorses that show interest in this proposal may answer a lot of questions,
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Scott's not up to the level of the big boys in rotation games, it is true.
I don't think that bothers him a bit...I might say the old 'play you a set of each' bet favors him against anyone, except Alex.
Justin Bergman is a no brainer. He's playing great and will be a huge asset to the team. His omission would be absolutely ridiculous.
Johnny Archer had a bad year and a bad US Open in which he lost 11-1 to Souquet (not really the hint we needed that he's ready to tackle Europe's best) and was eliminated by Mike Davis. If he's selected, it will be on his Mosconi record alone, and while I'd get that, I've seen little evidence in either of the past two years that he'll contribute much, and let's add that he did not contribute even a half point to the 2013 Team USA cause. Johnny is one of the best ever but his inclusion would amount to a lifetime achievement award.
Sticking with the old guard, Rodney Morris showed he's in good form, coming 13th I think, and Earl looked washed up. Still, I want to go young.
Although a solid case can be made for Justin Hall, who shone in the 2014 Mosconi Cup, his form was not especially storng at the US Open from my vantage point. Skyler Woodward is the obvious fifth choice to me. He beat YL Chang, one of the world's ten best players, at the US Open, and, I believe came 17th. That's speaks volumes to me. Oscar Dominguez, despite solid play in a tight loss against Ekonomopoulos, did not cash at the US Open, and likely played his way out of consideration.
Let's see if Mark Wilson goes young or not. A team of SVB, Corey, Dechaine, Bergman and Woodward would actually have a shot to win and would help build the pedigree of Team USA for the future. Wilson's skill in bringing along young players is rightly celebrated, and if he goes young, we'll be in pretty good shape in December.
Johnny Archer had a bad year and a bad US Open in which he lost 11-1 to Souquet (not really the hint we needed that he's ready to tackle Europe's best) and was eliminated by Mike Davis. If he's selected, it will be on his Mosconi record alone, and while I'd get that, I've seen little evidence in either of the past two years that he'll contribute much, and let's add that he did not contribute even a half point to the 2013 Team USA cause. Johnny is one of the best ever but his inclusion would amount to a lifetime achievement award.
Sticking with the old guard, Rodney Morris showed he's in good form, coming 13th I think, and Earl looked washed up. Still, I want to go young.
Although a solid case can be made for Justin Hall, who shone in the 2014 Mosconi Cup, his form was not especially storng at the US Open from my vantage point. Skyler Woodward is the obvious fifth choice to me. He beat YL Chang, one of the world's ten best players, at the US Open, and, I believe came 17th. That's speaks volumes to me. Oscar Dominguez, despite solid play in a tight loss against Ekonomopoulos, did not cash at the US Open, and likely played his way out of consideration.
Let's see if Mark Wilson goes young or not. A team of SVB, Corey, Dechaine, Bergman and Woodward would actually have a shot to win and would help build the pedigree of Team USA for the future. Wilson's skill in bringing along young players is rightly celebrated, and if he goes young, we'll be in pretty good shape in December.
Hate to burst your bubble, but SVB and Bergman rob Scott at a set of each and Justin Hall probably would try to wedge his way into the mix.
Good analysis by SJM, but don't sell Oscar short.
1) But for calling a foul on himself he beats Ekonomopoulos
2) Has been top dog of The Mezz tour West
3) Played well as a rookie on Mosconi Cup team
4) Much better player than rookie year of Mosconi Cup team
5) Can be counted on staying in the moment
6) Won't embarrass himself or team
Well said. If you saw the Ekonomopoulos match, you know Oscar was out of line on that double-hill four ball after following the two in the side too far. That's why he had tough cuing on that shot, and that led to the foul. Maybe he'd have gotten out, but maybe not.
Incidentally, I am not among those that credit those who call fouls on themselves. Nearly all players do this and the few who don't are to be shunned.
Agreed that Oscar is solid, but Skyler had a better year and took down a giant of the game in YL Chang at the Open. Skyler also conducts himself admirably, but has more big wins against top players this year in big events, including a win over Dechaine at the DCC 9-ball. Give credit where credit is due. The case for Skyler is much stronger than the case for Oscar.
Fully agree Stu that Skyler would be my 5 pick just wouldn't be heartbroken if it ended up being Oscar. As a matter of fact here are my picks from last year:
Pure Amateur Picks to Help Guide Mark Wilson - 10-15-2014, 11:35 AM
Pure amateur picks to help guide Mark Wilson (I’m sure he needs my input ) in his Mosconi Cup selections.
The team we will likely see:
Shane Van Boening
Justin Bergman
Justin Hall
Corey Duel
Oscar Dominguez
The team I would like to see:
Shane Van Boening
Mike Dechaine
Justin Bergman
Skyler Woodward
Justin Hall
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=4925461&postcount=1
Only difference between my pick from last year is Justin Hall on mine and Corey on yours. Being that Corey has had the better year I would now go with him too.
Pure Amateur Picks to Help Guide Mark Wilson - 10-15-2014, 11:35 AM
Pure amateur picks to help guide Mark Wilson (I’m sure he needs my input ) in his Mosconi Cup selections.
The team we will likely see:
Shane Van Boening
Justin Bergman
Justin Hall
Corey Duel
Oscar Dominguez
The team I would like to see:
Shane Van Boening
Mike Dechaine
Justin Bergman
Skyler Woodward
Justin Hall
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=4925461&postcount=1
Only difference between my pick from last year is Justin Hall on mine and Corey on yours. Being that Corey has had the better year I would now go with him too.
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I agree and Woodward needs to put up his own money, every penny to his name and play scott with no safety net. That's the pressure he's gonna have at the Mosconi cup and he will fold. You guys are flat nuts of you think Woodward can play with the Europe team. Let's see. Shane mike corey justin sky. Yea one of those players is not even in the same universe as the other 4! That's undisputable! Good lord people.
Mark Wilson watched sky's first round match in the open. It was embarrassing how nervous and lost his game was. The guy he was playing was terriable! No way possible after Wilson saw how sky handled that important spot could he pick him. He's not ready it's that simple. Few more years maybe.
Wonder if they play on their own dime who can put up more a 21 year old kid or someone in their forties?
I know when I was 21 I didn't have any problem playing for all I was worth problem was one day it could be a couple grand another lint.
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Simply put he's not one of the best 5 infact he's probaly not one of the best 10 either
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Mark picks will be Bergman and Sky after his statement about using his picks on the players that put the time and effort to play the points events and considering Sky and Bergman finished in a tie for 4th in Mosconi Cup points.
You can't be serious. Frost over any of those other guys would be a crime. It's 9ball right?
So your saying our caption is going to pick players based on a points list where you finished 30th place in a tournament and you got points to decide the 2 captions picks. Hell just throw darts blind. Same thing.