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DaveK

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JAM said:
To those who kept the faith, this is great news.

To the IPT naysayers, eat crow!

The One-on-One business model will benefit only a couple of players at a time, far less than a tour or tournament, so the general status of professional pool may not benefit that much. This could be a bunch of Sigel vs. whoever matches, entirely invitational and staged. As a business model it may do well. As a savior of profession pool maybe not so much.

Having said that it's way to early to suggest a crow dinner. Talk is cheap, and although they are paying out their obligations and beyond (albeit very slowly), this is one chicken that experience says we should wait to hatch, because there's also a chance this egg will be on someones face.

Dave, reminded yet again of the The Boxer who has " squandered (his) resistance, For a pocketful of mumbles, such are promises "
 

smashmouth

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action HAS been seen, to the tune of almost 6 million dollars in prize money

people seem to forget this little tidbit while upon their high horse passing judgement on KT and the IPT

this one on one idea is excellent, long races between top players to dtermine who's really best, just look at the excitement over Yang/Orcullo and now Corey/Shane

obviously, one on one matches are not on the same scale as the lavish tourneys they put on in the past but as a business model (you know, the most important aspect) it makes sense, particularly if they can drum up some decent prize money via sponsors and finnagle free venues, production teams, equipment, etc.....
 
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JAM

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smashmouth said:
action HAS been seen, to the tune of almost 6 million dollars in prize money

people seem to forget this little tidbit while upon their high horse passing judgement on KT and the IPT

this one on one idea is excellent, long races between top players to dtermine who's really best, just look at the excitement over Yang/Orcullo and now Corey/Shane

obviously, one on one matches are not on the same scale as the lavish tourneys they put on in the past but as a business model (you know, the most important aspect) it makes sense, particularly if they can drum up some decent prize money via sponsors and finnagle free venues, production teams, equipment, etc.....

I agree! Well said! :)

JAM
 
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smashmouth said:
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this one on one idea is excellent, long races between top players to dtermine who's really best.


Personally, I would rather support TAR (The Action Report) than the IPT (I'll Pay Later).
 

!Smorgass Bored

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TATE said:
When I read the letter, sub-conciously my hand went straight to my hip and buttoned the lttle flap on the pocket to secure my wallet.

Chris


LOL.... yep, and those pants with the little flap on the rear pocket are going to come back in style............ but long after you and K.T. are long departed this earth.

Doug
( I still have some from the last time they were in style, but they haven't fit since the 50s...... I must have gotten TALLER ) :)





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Da Poet

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smashmouth said:
action HAS been seen, to the tune of almost 6 million dollars in prize money

people seem to forget this little tidbit while upon their high horse passing judgement on KT and the IPT


I find the implication that my horse is doing drugs offensive.


Quite the opposite, I'm not passing any judgement at all because unfortunately nothing has changed yet. I certainly hope it will, but is it really that unreasonable, given the IPT's history over the last year, that we should be careful about our expectations regarding any new announcement?
 

bomber

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JoeyA

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Smorgass Bored said:
That's how I met JoeyA. I reached in my back pocket for my wallet and shook hands with Joey.... eh ! :)

That's a sorry thing to say. :mad:

I am through protecting you and Walt. :p :p

JoeyA
 
I haven't spoken about the IPT in awhile because kt faded legal responsibilites a L O N G time ago. Probably around the time of his third payment (the court requires an "effort" to make good on a debt before bankruptcy).

I spoke to a few players since the memo came out, and sadly they are still pretty much divided. Some, believe it or not, would follow kt into the bowels of hell. That was the problem with creating a players union. Only some players wanted to participate. Most others gave every excuse under the sun. From not wanting to piss of kt, to they didn't have any time or money. LOL, although they weren't asked to give money.

I'm less passionate now, because those closest were made whole, or close to it. If it freezes up the loot, and the players can make money from him, then I don't object.

In the mean time, as has been said, this is still nothing more than promises on paper. We have seen this before. Let's see some real action.

Rg

Ps. The head to headatches seem like only a few players might get to play. If they stage one match a week (unlikely) then each player will get to play once every 3 years. LOL. And he's surely only interested in the top finishers, as he should be.
 

wvroadrunner

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jay helfert said:
I don't want to throw a damper on anything, BUT!

What I read here is a lot of promises for future payments, which are lonnng overdue by the way. He's talking about paying off a tournament in December, 2007 that took place In July, 2006. If his intentions are so good, why doesn't he fork over the money now?

Why am I so cynical? For some reason I feel like impending lawsuits are motivating him more than anything else.

Even the guys who paid huge Qualifier entry fees are going to be repaid on a payment plan. I think this is how this guy lives his life. Steal now, and pay back later. I guess it works for him and keeps him out of jail.

I see no plans for future tournaments, only one on one challenge matches. For his website no less. The guy realizes that this is the wave of the future, when everything will be available on the internet. He wants a piece of it, naturally. By hook or by crook.

He is looking to do a low budget operation and get as many people as possible signed up for his internet feed. Nothing new here. Shame on all of you who buy this BS. The man has shown his true colors over and over again. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I ain't buying anything he's selling. PERIOD!

TAP TAP TAP
 

!Smorgass Bored

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In today's St. Pete Times newspaper:

Q: In March, I bought a copy of Kevin Trudeau's Weight Loss Cures from an ITV infomercial. I paid $39.90 and it carried a 30-day return policy.

During the order, I was asked if I wanted the newsletter and Web site privileges, but I declined.

Upon receipt of the book, I was automatically signed up for the newsletter and a seven-day trial for the Web site. I called to cancel, though out of curiosity I did access the Web site during the trial period.

I read some of the book and found it to be totally bizarre. I called to return it and was given a confirmation number. I sent it back with delivery confirmation. It arrived on March 24.

My April credit card statement did not reflect a credit for the book so I called customer service at ITV and was told the credit would take between 30 and 60 days.

My May statement showed no credit, but I did have a charge for $9.95. A representative said it was for the Web site. I asked her to cancel it, which she agreed to do. She also said there was a backup in return credits.

When my June statement came, there was still no credit, and yet another charge for $9.95. Another representative explained the company's refund procedure was being revamped and I needed to wait another 30 to 60 days. She also determined I had two accounts with different spellings of my name and that's why I was still being billed for the Web site. I asked to speak with a supervisor, but was told no one could come to the phone.

There seems to be no end to these charges.

Diveda Spector




A: Vice president of ITV customer service, Catherine Ratcliffe, sent a short note saying your issue has been resolved. I hope this is the case.

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A court found Trudeau in contempt for violating this preliminary injunction.

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His book, The Weight Loss Cure They Don't Want You to Know About, has been on the New York Times best seller list for seven weeks.

To read the FTC's entire statement on the settlement, visit www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/09/trudeaucoral.shtm.



Credit: ACTION
 

watchez

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JAM said:
I knew something was in the making, but I pledged to keep mum.

Looks like there's hope for those who continued to believe in the IPT.

To those who kept the faith, this is great news.

To the IPT naysayers, eat crow!

JAM
JAM-

To be blunt, and you probably will take this the wrong way.

The only thing I have seen the IPT bring to the pool world when it comes to your household is it made Keith quit pool. From what I have heard and you have stated on this board, Keith went to Reno, cashed his check & then disappeared for two weeks. Since then, you admit, he hasn't played in a tournament---for over a year. Before the IPT, Keith was playing in many tournaments. Now he plays internet poker. Yep, the IPT sure is a wonderful thing.
 

!Smorgass Bored

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Originally Posted by Smorgass Bored
That's how I met JoeyA. I reached in my back pocket for my wallet and shook hands with Joey.... eh !


JoeyA said:
That's a sorry thing to say. :mad:

I am through protecting you and Walt. :p :p
JoeyA


Aw, Joey. Everyone knows that met you on RSB many years ago..... and that I never carry a wallet (or reach for my money).
Doug
( I'm not leaving the house without Don Aguzin's protection, now that Luca Brasi is sleeping with the fish ) :)
 

JAM

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watchez said:
JAM-

To be blunt, and you probably will take this the wrong way.

The only thing I have seen the IPT bring to the pool world when it comes to your household is it made Keith quit pool. From what I have heard and you have stated on this board, Keith went to Reno, cashed his check & then disappeared for two weeks. Since then, you admit, he hasn't played in a tournament---for over a year. Before the IPT, Keith was playing in many tournaments. Now he plays internet poker. Yep, the IPT sure is a wonderful thing.

There's a little more to the story, but I can't and won't publish the reason why Keith has not played any pool since last September. :)

It does not have anything to do with the IPT, though, FWIW!

JAM
 

!Smorgass Bored

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That's Why I'm Scared Of MICE.... eek !

JAM said:
There's a little more to the story, but I can't and won't publish the reason why Keith has not played any pool since last September. :)

It does not have anything to do with the IPT, though, FWIW!

JAM


Do the Vegas casinos have the collection 'hit squad' after him ?
Doug
( The giant mouse in Orlando will send the Hit Mice after you if you don't pay your Magic Kingdom charges ) :)

HEY, it rained for the entire week I was there and I'm NOT paying.... ok ? OK ?
 
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