Mc Dermott vs Schon
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Schon, Jacoby
I had a schon ltd that had a broken forearm. I sent it to David Jacoby- for 500. he made a new shaft,(Kamui blk tip, Ivorine 4- ferrule-his taper.) He used my original collar, new pin, He changed the A joint style, used same handle wood and the butt,refinished and rewrapped. I call it the Magic Cue. It says schon ltd- but at heart it is a great playing Jacoby Schon. mark The moral of the story is some of the broken cues can be fixed quite nicely if you send it to Jacoby- and nobody has to know or will see any difference.
I had a schon ltd that had a broken forearm. I sent it to David Jacoby- for 500. he made a new shaft,(Kamui blk tip, Ivorine 4- ferrule-his taper.) He used my original collar, new pin, He changed the A joint style, used same handle wood and the butt,refinished and rewrapped. I call it the Magic Cue. It says schon ltd- but at heart it is a great playing Jacoby Schon. mark The moral of the story is some of the broken cues can be fixed quite nicely if you send it to Jacoby- and nobody has to know or will see any difference.
i own both, would go with the Schon, i love the hit. But that is personal preferance... try both before buying.
There is no question about it in my mind, go with McDermott.
I have trouble choosing between this two...I need your help to clear up my mind to decide.
My playing style is more to the feel of the ball rather than power...
Thanks before
While your question is really based upon personal preference, when I buy a cue in the $300+ price range I also consider re-sale of the cue I am buying. I personally like both McDermott Cues and Schon cues, but if I were buying a McDermott I would not buy one that costs more than $200, because their re-sale value is typically less than the purchase price on all cues that they have made in the last 20 years. The only time that this may not be true is if the cue is a high end special edition cue, and even most of these cues sell for less simply because there is not a great deal of collector interest.
On the other hand Schon cues have a great re-sale value do to the quality of materials used and the simple fact that they are hands down the highest quality production cue ever made not only in the USA but also in the world. Schon cues have a unique place in the cue market place, in most cases they are not quite custom because more than one of a single model is in most cases made, but the quality of construction, the materials used, and the unique designs made are equal to any custom cue made anywhere. Due to this fact Schon cues have the highest collectible desire of any production cue ever made, so their value will stay intact if the cue is taken care of and if you carefully shop around before you buy and do not over pay.
JIMO
I have two D series McDermott's, and R series Schon and a 93 Schon. It really depends on the day, but I play great with any of the above.
I will say that which ever you go for, look for a Schon or McD from the 80's early 90's if possible. Just better woods and nothing is cored.
Patrick
I will say that which ever you go for, look for a Schon or McD from the 80's early 90's if possible. Just better woods and nothing is cored.
Patrick
schon
personally i would take a schon over the mcdermott any day of the week. my main player for the last 3 years has been an sl18. I dont think I will ever sell it, due to the fact I absolutly love it through and through. I have had a few mcdermotts throughout the years, and I have to say the older ones play better in my opinion. I recently got rid of a Mcdermott voyager with the quick release steel joint, I absolutely couldn't stand the way it played, even though it was a beautiful cue to look at. So my advice is this, both cue companies make a good product, but if you are looking for playability I would take the Schon.
personally i would take a schon over the mcdermott any day of the week. my main player for the last 3 years has been an sl18. I dont think I will ever sell it, due to the fact I absolutly love it through and through. I have had a few mcdermotts throughout the years, and I have to say the older ones play better in my opinion. I recently got rid of a Mcdermott voyager with the quick release steel joint, I absolutely couldn't stand the way it played, even though it was a beautiful cue to look at. So my advice is this, both cue companies make a good product, but if you are looking for playability I would take the Schon.
Coring
Have a MD D-15. Don't play it anymore but thinking of pulling it back out just for old times sake. Is coring bad? I thought coring was done because many exotic woods are heavy. Aren't some very high end cues cores. The D- series MD's are production cues. Are they really known to play that well? My D-15 also has 2 mop notched diamonds I. The butt. Will this extra add much to the value?
Coring is not bad, just different. All of my cues are straight grained maple, except for my Runde which is cored with straight grain maple. I like to consider Runde's higher end, but not absurd.
I only have D's because I like them and I got them cheap. They are consistent and at the time, what most played with. But then again, I have my Schons for the same reason.
I believe the C's are more desirable than the D's, but the D's are nothing to turn your nose to, and can be found quite cheap.
Diamonds adding value... not to me.
Patrick
I only have D's because I like them and I got them cheap. They are consistent and at the time, what most played with. But then again, I have my Schons for the same reason.
I believe the C's are more desirable than the D's, but the D's are nothing to turn your nose to, and can be found quite cheap.
Diamonds adding value... not to me.
Patrick
Im still amazed that people that should know better still buy a production cue where they could buy a great used custom cue for the same money or close to it.
I have sold some awesome custom cues for less than $1K that are without a doubt better looking and performing than any production cue.
Secondly for me its a matter of economics. I can resell a custom cue better and a production cue is worth at best 50% of retail.
Oh well checkers sell better than chess.
Ken
I have sold some awesome custom cues for less than $1K that are without a doubt better looking and performing than any production cue.
Secondly for me its a matter of economics. I can resell a custom cue better and a production cue is worth at best 50% of retail.
Oh well checkers sell better than chess.
Ken
That is quite true...I tried the mezz, predator, schon, mc dermott...the confidence and the feel of solidness is found in the Schon. (in my playing style) to be honest I never try any custom cues before
.Was it maybe because that particular schon that I tried the other day has a very good balance weight? suitable wood made? and the perfect combination of shaft and the tip? Here comes the complications
Mind asking what tip are u using for the schon? if your using the original shaft for both your MCd and schon, which cue has more deflection rate?
I tried playing with a predator with the 314 shaft..the cue is so stiff that the hit feel is gone...I prefer a little vibration and deflection so it give the natural feel of playing.
Older production cues like old school runde schon's, play just as good if not better, and were just as well made as most customs. Also, I
never saw the point in buying a used custom cue because it's NOT custom made and tailored for the way I play -
it was customized for someone else, so why would it play better for me? I would rather go with a cue that i know is solid and well made
like an old school schon.
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"Im still amazed that people that should know better still buy a production cue where they could buy a great used custom cue for the same money or close to it.
I have sold some awesome custom cues for less than $1K that are without a doubt better looking and performing than any production cue.
Secondly for me its a matter of economics. I can resell a custom cue better and a production cue is worth at best 50% of retail.
Oh well checkers sell better than chess.
Ken"
Ken, I totally agree, but awesome customs don't come with a lifetime warranty(McD), or the simplicity of finding a shaft for a Schon.
The OP is in Indonesia, which makes me think humidity and the last thing anyone wants is to buy a nice custom and have the weather cause the wood to move.
Axio,
Waterbuffalo tips on Runde/Schons and Lepro's on the McDs. I just tried an Everest on the Schon and I'm hooked.
All the shafts are original and solid wood. I have the taper altered slightly to my liking, but mainly original.
I not a fan of laminated shafts, but it seems like it would make sense in SE Asia.
For $500 bucks, give or take, I'm sure you can pick up a PJ McD and PJ Schon and figure out what you like.
I have sold some awesome custom cues for less than $1K that are without a doubt better looking and performing than any production cue.
Secondly for me its a matter of economics. I can resell a custom cue better and a production cue is worth at best 50% of retail.
Oh well checkers sell better than chess.
Ken"
Ken, I totally agree, but awesome customs don't come with a lifetime warranty(McD), or the simplicity of finding a shaft for a Schon.
The OP is in Indonesia, which makes me think humidity and the last thing anyone wants is to buy a nice custom and have the weather cause the wood to move.
Axio,
Waterbuffalo tips on Runde/Schons and Lepro's on the McDs. I just tried an Everest on the Schon and I'm hooked.
All the shafts are original and solid wood. I have the taper altered slightly to my liking, but mainly original.
I not a fan of laminated shafts, but it seems like it would make sense in SE Asia.
For $500 bucks, give or take, I'm sure you can pick up a PJ McD and PJ Schon and figure out what you like.
yes I agree with you...:thumbup: