"measles" cueball
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OMG !!!!! a black freaking cue ball, I would have busted out laughing and stole that thing to bring in as a gag gift, when playing someone 
Personally, I love the Super Pro TV set with the measles cb.
Now, can you imagine, ordering a set of billiard balls or several sets of them for a pool hall and you open the boxes and they all have a black cue ball
Most people wouldnt know what to think, or they'd still be looking for the cue ball in the box.
dave
Personally, I love the Super Pro TV set with the measles cb.
Now, can you imagine, ordering a set of billiard balls or several sets of them for a pool hall and you open the boxes and they all have a black cue ball
Most people wouldnt know what to think, or they'd still be looking for the cue ball in the box. dave
I have the measles cueball also. After a few racks my friend and I switched back to the standard white (super aramith) one. We "thought" it felt heavier and that it seemed to act different. Well, I just recently bought a new set of super aramith and guess what. I weighed and measured the measles cueball with the rest of the set and it turns out that they all are exactly the same size and weight. The only thing I do notice, as already mentioned, is that it does seem to show chalk marks more than the standard one.
I use the spoted ball all the time. I also have a set of super Aramiths but dont use them right now. The bar I play at has a weight differential of about 1/3 oz between the cueball and object balls. So I use a set of balls at home that is about a 1/3 oz lighter then my spoted ball which is about 5.95 oz if I remember right.
StormHotRod300 said:OMG !!!!! a black freaking cue ball, I would have busted out laughing and stole that thing to bring in as a gag gift, when playing someone
I heard it through the grapevine that the semi-finalists were each offered a chunk of change to play with these balls, to include the black cueball, and they all declined in unison.
Troy Frank couldn't take his eyes off that black cueball.
Check out Pat Fleming and Corey Deuel enjoying a nice hearty laugh as the other players contemplate shooting with it!
JAM
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The Red circle is a couple grams lighter than the Measle, and Blue Circle cue ball.
I was at my local pool hall yesterday and I played with my measles cue ball and wasn't getting good action off the break or on position so I swaped to the clubs cb and low and behold the cb was parking itself mid table with a great spread and position play was good.
Then I realised that the only way to get good use of the measles cb is if you use a set of super aramith pro cup tv balls as the object balls are the same weight as the cb, and thats why my break wasn't working at first.
I still love using the measles cb.
Then I realised that the only way to get good use of the measles cb is if you use a set of super aramith pro cup tv balls as the object balls are the same weight as the cb, and thats why my break wasn't working at first.
I still love using the measles cb.
Personally, I like the measles ball. It really allows you appreciate the finesse with which a good player can manipulate the cueball. As for the distraction, I got over that the first game. When I play with a normal "whitey" now, I miss seeing exactly what my opponent is trying to do and/or how well he did it. That said, I weighed a few balls to satisfy my curiosity. Here are the results (in grams):
167.3 measles (fairly new)
163.0 red circle (never used)
167.0 blue circle (never used)
165.7 blue circle (about 20 yrs old)
165.5 - 167.0 range of weight between assorted brand new Centennials.
164.0 - 166.7 range of weight between assorted 20 yr old Centennials.
The new Centennials are about 20 yrs old (whenever they were reintroduced) but have never been used. I was fortunate to get 2 sets back then on a trade. I use one set regularly while the other set is "in reserve".
Back to the original topic: I was surprised to see that the red circle ball was that much lighter. If someone else has a new one & a scale, can you weigh it & post the results? I'm curious if all red circles are this light or if I have one at the extreme end of their tolerances. I'd also like to see the weights of some Super Araminths, if anyone can help.
As far as the other weights, it appears that the measles ball is right in line with the blue circle & the other Centennials.
Interesting topic!
167.3 measles (fairly new)
163.0 red circle (never used)
167.0 blue circle (never used)
165.7 blue circle (about 20 yrs old)
165.5 - 167.0 range of weight between assorted brand new Centennials.
164.0 - 166.7 range of weight between assorted 20 yr old Centennials.
The new Centennials are about 20 yrs old (whenever they were reintroduced) but have never been used. I was fortunate to get 2 sets back then on a trade. I use one set regularly while the other set is "in reserve".
Back to the original topic: I was surprised to see that the red circle ball was that much lighter. If someone else has a new one & a scale, can you weigh it & post the results? I'm curious if all red circles are this light or if I have one at the extreme end of their tolerances. I'd also like to see the weights of some Super Araminths, if anyone can help.
As far as the other weights, it appears that the measles ball is right in line with the blue circle & the other Centennials.
Interesting topic!
Measles ...
Don't like them, never have. May be great for teaching, but I don't care for them otherwise. I always found the measles ball to be 'sluggish' a little.
Red circle is too light. You go to draw it a foot, and it ends up coming back 2 1/2 feet.
Don't like them, never have. May be great for teaching, but I don't care for them otherwise. I always found the measles ball to be 'sluggish' a little.
Red circle is too light. You go to draw it a foot, and it ends up coming back 2 1/2 feet.
Chenz said:
I bought a set of balls (to bring to practice), and I had all the balls measured. They ranged from 2.48 - 2.53 with the measle ball 2.5. After using these balls for 8 months of hard practice including alot of hard breaks the cue ball (measle) measuers 249 and had a spot that was 2.48. and it is still bigger than most cue balls you see at pool rooms.
Rooms don't change their balls, and the cue balls get smaller with use. That's why (I think, and it is just my opinion) the measle ball looks diffrent. So if you want to see what's what with the size, don't just measure the measle, measure all the balls and measure the cue balls form your favorite room, you may be surprised.
Sorry for just going on and on.
Billiardpete out
I've only had the opportunity to play with the measles ball at one tournament in PR about 2 1/2 years ago. I was concerned that it would be distracting, but I ended up loving it. I believe that seeing the dots spin actually provides additional visual feedback that helps your mind to dial in the speed and direction.
On the weight of the red circle cueball, pool players have observed, for quite some time now, that the red circle is noticeably lighter than the blue circle and doesn't have quite the same rolling distance. This is another reason I like the measles ball--it moves very much like the blue circle.
On the weight of the red circle cueball, pool players have observed, for quite some time now, that the red circle is noticeably lighter than the blue circle and doesn't have quite the same rolling distance. This is another reason I like the measles ball--it moves very much like the blue circle.
I believe there are two common types of red circle cueballs. One is more pure white, and the other is more towards cream colored. The cream colored one is heavier. I actually carry a cream colored red circle with me, in case the poolroom offers only the badmitton birdie weight ball.dzcues said:
However there are wide variances in cueball weights. I recall Tommy Kennedy telling me he had to go through 100 cueballs to find 15 that were pretty near to 6 ozs.
Doc
I didn't know that about the red circle ball. The one I weighed is darker than both the blue circle ball and the measles ball - much creamier in color. I would assume it is the heavier of the two styles.gulfportdoc said:I believe there are two common types of red circle cueballs. One is more pure white, and the other is more towards cream colored. The cream colored one is heavier. I actually carry a cream colored red circle with me, in case the poolroom offers only the badmitton birdie weight ball.
However there are wide variances in cueball weights. I recall Tommy Kennedy telling me he had to go through 100 cueballs to find 15 that were pretty near to 6 ozs.
Doc
That's a good case in point, Bob. My "creamy" red circle is 167g (whereas my Super Aramith is 168g). So if your "creamy" red circle is 163g, that's a difference of 4g in the same line of ball. Of course that's just approx. 1/10th of an ounce.dzcues said:
Doc
One of the most underated reasons for using the measles ball is that it let's you know when you are putting UNWANTED english on the cueball and you can then adjust accordingly.
Guys don't miss cause their aim was off as much as they do because the unintentionally curved or squirted the cueball.
Guys don't miss cause their aim was off as much as they do because the unintentionally curved or squirted the cueball.
Luxury said:
You nailed it. That's the only reason I use the ball. It's corrected numerous errors for me (unwanted english). It also tells me when I'm putting correct english on the ball. Now, if I could only figure out how to get the scratches off the ball from hitting the walls and concrete floor.
JED
asn130 said:
exactly, i cant stand a red circle rock, i like a plain white blue circle rock PERIOD!!! when I saw the measles thing on TV I was thinking pool was hitting new lows, somehow over in Germany I ended up playing with one. I have a couple blue circule rocks and the red spotty rock hits them just as good(the same) the red one gets away from me from time to time. , and to my suprise I like the spots, something I never thought would be possible.
My take is that measles cueball is one of the best inventions of recent times for our sport, because it helps beginners learn at a much faster rate. I say this, due to the fact that it is easier to see what someone is doing to the cue ball as far as spin goes. When I was younger, I had to see the same shot many time to really understand what was happening to the cueball. Now it is almost instant feedback.
Some people say it is tough to get used to or they just don't believe in it, because it is not what they are used to. But just about everyone that tries it out for any length of time, says after about 5 games or so, that they actually like it and forget about all the spots when shooting or that it doesn't bother them as much as they thought it would.
I figured some might feel it is going to be tougher to hide your speed as it shows most everything you do, but I always thought people either know who they are dealing with or they don't. I really doubt that the cueball has that much influence on that. Anyway, that is how I am seeing it.
Some people say it is tough to get used to or they just don't believe in it, because it is not what they are used to. But just about everyone that tries it out for any length of time, says after about 5 games or so, that they actually like it and forget about all the spots when shooting or that it doesn't bother them as much as they thought it would.
I figured some might feel it is going to be tougher to hide your speed as it shows most everything you do, but I always thought people either know who they are dealing with or they don't. I really doubt that the cueball has that much influence on that. Anyway, that is how I am seeing it.
You guys are all nuts. How can the spots not bother you? I tried it for an hour or so, and I hated it. Everytime I see those little spots moving around it looks like my ball's rolling off and I'm gonna miss. Of course, this is probably just me. I can't even bear to see the chalk stains on the cueball spinning around.