Metal ferrule

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Anyone tried these? I found out about them through a Facebook page. I like the look. Although they are pretty common in snooker and carom cues, pool cue makers seemed to be turned off by it. I was a little annoyed at the options in diameters with the smallest being 12mm. Also they are pricey $29, and some feel they are too heavy at .6 oz. We have a McDermott cue in the 17oz range (minus the bolts) I think it would fit just right on that bad boy.

Just looking for thoughts from the cue makers.- JG;)
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Classic case of a solution in search of a problem.

BTW - I know the brits love their brass ferrules on Snooker cues, but I'm not aware
of any even decent Carom cue with metal. What Carom cues are you referring to?

Dale
 
pdcue said:
Classic case of a solution in search of a problem.

BTW - I know the brits love their brass ferrules on Snooker cues, but I'm not aware
of any even decent Carom cue with metal. What Carom cues are you referring to?

Dale
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absofknlutly..........................

Kim
 
i made a cue

with 14k gold bars in the buttcap, 14k gold solid joint and 14k gold ferrule. i used about 3 ounces of gold in this cue. it played like crap. that gold ferrule was a disaster. way too heavy.
 
desi2960 said:
with 14k gold bars in the buttcap, 14k gold solid joint and 14k gold ferrule. i used about 3 ounces of gold in this cue. it played like crap. that gold ferrule was a disaster. way too heavy.
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It does sound like a disaster. I recall Ricco here in Tampa used silver, gold and I think even jewels in his cues. I have a plain one with his signature in gold, at least that's my understanding. Anywho I don't believe he used gold in the ferrule. I'd think gold would be too soft and heavy.


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Most/many players and cuemakers are looking to reduce the amount of deflection in their cues. One contributor to deflection is the mass/weight of the ferrule. A metal ferrule is moving in the wrong direction.
My 2 cents,
Gary
 
The metal ferrules on snooker cues are very short for a reason. According to cueferrules.com, these 1" long metal ferrules "add highly desirable forward balance to your cue. Snapshot™ Ferrules weigh approximately .6 oz as compared to traditional ivory, micarta, ivorine, linen, Juma etc. of approximately .2 to .3 oz."

I applaud them for looking for a solution to the dirty ferrule problem. My suggestion would be to modify their ferrule to 1/4 the current length (around .250 -.300) to keep the end mass comparable to a traditional cue.
 
Correction is needed I think.....these weigh 29 grams????/ Well, 29 grams is not 6/10th of an ounce.

28.375 grams = 1 ounce....the friggin ferrule weighs more than an ounce........what a clunker.......imagine getting really great old growth shafts that weigh 4.2-4.3 ounces and slapping this beast on it........Yipes....5 ounce shafts.....Get the heck out of here.

When Richard Black first started making cues, his first cue were made with a flat faced steel joint and were a total disaster.....complete flop.....no feel whatsoever and "heavy"........so the very next year he changed to using George Balabushka's 5/16x114 stainless steel joint which has been his mainstay to this very day.

One ounce metal ferrules.....BAD IDEA! Not even a metal sleeve version over a ivory ferrule would make any sense either . That's just as poor a design as flat ivory cue joints with stainless steel sleeves......,another really flawed design......IMO.

And by the way, ivory ferrules do not get dirty with chalk marks unless the shooter cores out the chalk. Let's face it.....most players I see today do not apply chalk properly but that's another thread for another time. Just a quick cleaning with tooth paste will restore most ferrules and I've never had to clean the ivory ferrules on any of my cues' shafts.......My Mottey has 3 shafts with ivory ferrules, My Scruggs has two shafts with ivory ferrules, my Runde Schon has 2 shafts with ivory ferrules and 2 shafts with Micarta ferrules.......I have never had any chalk lines or buildup on any ivory ferrule cue shaft I own.
 
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I agree that correction is needed. The 12.00mm Snapshot™ weighs 16g and the largest-the13.00 mm Snapshot™ weighs 18g, not 29g. No, they are not for everyone.
 
I received an email yesterday from the inventor introducing his product and asking for feedback. Once I saw this thread I replied, sharing my opinions- to which I received a prompt, courteous reply. Apparently, there are plans to offer a shorter ferrule in the future. A 1/4" ferrule would probably have about the same end mass as the more traditional 1" ferrules.
 
Jerry McWorter has been offering an aluminum ferrule for some time. IIRC it is .5 inches or less....

He designed it to be low mass and minimal deflection. They are NOT polished...

Anyone else think having a large highly polished piece of metal on the end of your shaft might be a distraction???

Also, unless the shaft is EXACTLY the same size as the ferrule the install will be crap. No way I would attempt to put one on. I like being able to "fit" a ferrule on so it looks like it lived there before...
 
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WORD. Getting a metal ferrule polished out like that while you try and blend it to the wood is NOT the same as Juma. Polishing metal is MESSY,and doesn't jive with shaft wood.

If I was asked to install one of these,I'd try like hell to have the ferrule .002 undersized,and bring the wood back down to it. That way,the mess doesn't get into the wood and make it look nasty. Tommy D.
 
If you like lots of deflection/squirt, this ferrule is for you! :thumbup:

You'll need to want your shaft cut down a little, too. There will be no resizing those ferrules, by normal means.
 
There would be a lot of people that will be ok with those ferrules.
It needs to be very hard to cope with the abrasiveness of chalk.
I don't see any problem with installing the ferrules.
It just means having the front section of the shaft finished to size before putting on the ferrule.
 
conetip said:
There would be a lot of people that will be ok with those ferrules.
It needs to be very hard to cope with the abrasiveness of chalk.
I don't see any problem with installing the ferrules.
It just means having the front section of the shaft finished to size before putting on the ferrule.
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Essentially a retaper if you really want to do it correctly. 30.00 for the ferrule, plus install, plus tip, plus retaper......

All to get a shaft that plays NOTHING like it did before....

I'd rather pass on that job than get involved............

God forbid you drop the ferrule and scratch it....
 
The idea of a ferrule is to strengthen the end of the shaft, but to also transmit the"feel" of an all wood shaft. A steel or other metal ferrule might provide strength, but would not provide the "feel" you'd get with more compatible ferrule materials and a wood to wood cue.
 
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