Mika stop crying about the rack!
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The time spent trying to get the rack right was brutal for the players and the spectators. I think the players should have racked for themselves like they did for the whole tournament until the last few matches. I don't know whose idea it was to use a neutral racker the last day, but if they were using a neutral racker the players shouldn't have been allowed to come up and challenge every rack which caused the racker to have to start over and over trying to get an acceptable rack for the players. I was present watching and of all the US Opens i've been to this was the first time i've seen so much time wasted racking the balls.
The neutral racker would rack the balls and let the player inspect every possible crack and the re-racking began over and over. It was so bad that Accu-stats started stopping the video between games and waiting for the balls to be acceptably racked before they turned the video cameras back on. I hope that they come up with something different next year because taking that much time to rack the balls takes a lot away from the play and enjoying the matches.......
James
I'm sure the folks at Delta were none too happy with all the perceived racking problems either.
I was...
I did play, I was there all week. I left Thursday to go see family however...
You are right about making the balls past the side pocket, but you can wire the rack to hit it harder and make that wing ball and still have 3 balls past the side pocket. I saw anouther good racker do it 8-9 times and he had 4 balls past the side pocket!
WHen you are running out 7-8 balls everytime, any of those top players could win. Now, I wasnt saying that effected my showing at the open. The top guy I played racked right broke hard, and never made a ball on the break...
I was simply agreeing that, changing the rules on those guys at the last minute wasn't fair. If they continued their RACKING GAMES, Appleton, might not have won. MIGHT.
So with that being said I agree with Mika's comments and his attitude towards the whole ordeal. IMHO
I did play, I was there all week. I left Thursday to go see family however...
You are right about making the balls past the side pocket, but you can wire the rack to hit it harder and make that wing ball and still have 3 balls past the side pocket. I saw anouther good racker do it 8-9 times and he had 4 balls past the side pocket!
WHen you are running out 7-8 balls everytime, any of those top players could win. Now, I wasnt saying that effected my showing at the open. The top guy I played racked right broke hard, and never made a ball on the break...
I was simply agreeing that, changing the rules on those guys at the last minute wasn't fair. If they continued their RACKING GAMES, Appleton, might not have won. MIGHT.
So with that being said I agree with Mika's comments and his attitude towards the whole ordeal. IMHO
INCORRECT! Even if you made the wing ball, you still had to drive two more balls past the side pocket (no soft breaks) and get position on the one ball, and then run the other eight balls on a tough table. Funny how even the very best players averaged only 25-30% break and runs in their matches. I guess the other 70-75% of the racks shouldn't be considered.
Diamond vs. Brunswick - re: the claim by Raj that somehow Diamonds are inferior to Brunswick in some way. Wrong! Both are good tables, they just play a little differently. EVERYONE knows that Diamond rails bank a little shorter, and that's about it. If anything, the Diamond pockets are a little tougher, with deeper shelves and tighter pocket angles. You can't cheat those pockets! Funny how the guys who played the best all week were still standing on Friday and Saturday. Guess they just got lucky.
Racking contest? Hogwash! When they play loser racks is when the real hi-jinks occur. Anyone who has ever been to a tournament has seen the long dramas surrounding the rack when the loser is racking for the winner. By far the lesser of two evils is having the winner rack for himself. Like I said in an earlier post, going to Ten Ball solves a lot of these problems.
Why does this negativity sound so much like sour grapes to me. I watched a lot of pool last week at the Open, and the best players were the ones who missed the fewest balls, played the best safeties and controlled the cue ball the best. The guys who made more errors lost matches, plain and simple. The most effective breaker I saw was Ralf Souquet and it still wasn't enough to assure him of victory. You can make the wing ball all day and all night, but if you can't handle the Open pressure and run the other eight balls, you won't win.
I'm curious UGETTHE6, did you play in the Open? Were you even there?
I don't think they are upset about it Terry knows he makes the best product out there, and I think it is the prefered rack by many!... However, I see alot of people playing with the Magic Rack, now there's an idea!
Magic Rack and you have to break over 20 MPH and have the break speeds clocked, you go under 20 MPH its ball in hand for the opponent!
Hmm...
Magic Rack and you have to break over 20 MPH and have the break speeds clocked, you go under 20 MPH its ball in hand for the opponent!
Hmm...
Yeah, I didn't mean it as a dump on the Delta by any means. I have one and like it. I'm just thinking that as a sponsor of the "official" rack, it just doesn't look good on the stream to see the players struggling to get a good rack with your gear - even if it was the table's fault.
enough is enough
I'm sick of hearing all the whining and complaining about the rack/break in 9 ball. If all these players have that big of an issue stick to playing straight pool or one pocket. In most if not all rotation games there is a big luck factor off of the break and also alot of luck in pool in general.
I agree with whoever said that the best players are still going to be there in the end because there going to make the least amount of mistakes and thats what wins matches.
I'm sick of hearing all the whining and complaining about the rack/break in 9 ball. If all these players have that big of an issue stick to playing straight pool or one pocket. In most if not all rotation games there is a big luck factor off of the break and also alot of luck in pool in general.
I agree with whoever said that the best players are still going to be there in the end because there going to make the least amount of mistakes and thats what wins matches.