Agreed maybe the best living cuemaker .....
Ken
This week anyway.
Agreed maybe the best living cuemaker .....
Ken
Ken
Now as far as a cue maker? i would say the Sigel is maybe the best in the world, ever, bar none. And, coincidentally, i have one for sale right this moment.
Kevin
The bar has been set, the door has been kicked open, we can really go hog wild now.
Any cue that anyone is selling, made by any cuemaker, "is maybe the best in the world"
In fact, I just sold a Predator cue and I didn't say that is was made by the best in the world, so even though the deal is done, I'm going to pm the guy to make sure he knows that it was made by the best in the world.
I'm using it, no more monster player with a slight taper roll, it's the best in the world...nuff said or that's no shit
Plus you look fetching in that sweet orange top and those little shorts (or is that you to the left in that equally stunning red/red exercise look?)..
OK Kev, it's back to Rambow for me
I was an Engineer wearing suits all the time to work. Off work Harley tee shirts and jeans. Has nothing to do with your bank account.I have two custom Sigel cues and love them both. I know Mike and he is certainly full of himself, but he has only been nice to me and very easy to deal with when he made these two cues.
Maybe, Ken, he said you couldn't afford his cues because you misspelled his name?I hate it when someone assumes you can't afford something just because you look a certain way. I wear a tie everyday for work and like to dress casual everywhere else so sometimes I look like I couldn't rub two nickels together. Oh well, when one assumes......
Hope you got over it and recovered Ken.Agreed. Kind of the Dale Perry Market Model.
My first impression was well if you were ever around Mike Siegal, he is an incredible a$$hole. Then I thought there are several cuemakers that are that way so that probably didnt affect the price either way.
I know I once looked at one of his cues at SBE and he told me I couldnt afford it.
I should call him and say, I sure can afford them now....
Ken
Hope you got over it and recovered Ken.
I have a Gina coming my way and have been reading what I can about Ernie and Gina on here. Reading kvinbrwr's Gina posts has been a lot of fun and very informative. Sad I didn't really get to connect with him more and even sadder of a loss to the forums.Rip kvinbrwr
He was a great guy and good friend. Lost him way too soon![]()
He had THE juice with Ernie. I met Kevin the first time at Ernie’s shop.I have a Gina coming my way and have been reading what I can about Ernie and Gina on here. Reading kvinbrwr's Gina posts has been a lot of fun and very informative. Sad I didn't really get to connect with him more and even sadder of a loss to the forums.
Not so. I spent time at Mike's a couple of times. Like a week each time. Personally watched him doing all the work. No putting down a smart man. Mike knew what he was doingExactly right, I to also think he tried selling them behind his name and not the workmenship. Many also believe that they where made for mike with just his name attached to them, I doubt it very much that Mike was behind the lathe doing all the work. It takes years and years to gain the know how and all the tools to be able to make a quality cue. There had to be a cue maker behind this some how and I doubt is was Mike.
Like that post Jay. I bought a dozen of his custom cues just before he quit. Still have 10 of them. Anyone can ask Mike about me. All 1 of a kind. No duplication.There were actually two lines of "Mike Sigel" cues. The first were his own cues that he made HIMSELF! These were beautiful cues that played great, much like his own playing cue. But the amount of work that went into producing one of them made it ultimately not the best use of his time. At least to him it wasn't, if he couldn't sell them right away. He didn't stay with it long enough to create a waiting list of people who wanted a Mike Sigel Original cue. I doubt that he made more than to 50 to 100 cues max in his time as a custom cue maker. All these cues were actually signed by Mike!
After that experience with jumping into the high end cue market, Mike found a foreign manufacturer (probably in Taiwan) who began making cues using his name. MIke Sigel was stamped on each cue. He was attempting to do the same thing his buddy Nick Varner did with his line of production cues. I'm sure hundreds, if not thousands, of these cheap imitations hit the market and diluted the value of the nice cues he had made by hand.
I have an original Sigel cue that is a copy of his playing cue and it's a real nice hitting cue and very well made as well. I paid $1,600 for this cue and doubt if I could get 1K for it today. Perhaps some day it will have value again. It is a rare piece and I know it. He's not making any more!![]()
I wonder what that cost Detroit?Sigel was the ONLY guy I saw own Cornbread Red playing one-pocket. He and Hubbart on the road, Larry playing with a house cue he carried in the trunk of his car. Making red quit you at one hole at The Rack was no mean feat.
What are the identifying marks on his custom vs production model?I remember researching Mike Sigel cues back when I was initially shopping for my first premium cue. I liked his unusual cue designs, but the asking prices were well above my original budget. Oddly enough, I ended up purchasing Schon CX61 which also sported mircata inlays like many Sigel cues (image in signature).
Mike's Mali's!! Lol.They are just average cues, most of very pretty to look at but generally the fall right in the middle of the road overall. Nothing wrong with that.
I think the problem was there was a lot of confusion when they originally being built between origin and marketing and distribution and I think they really got lost in the mix. There was never a lot of consistency there aand most people know very little about them. Even Mike seems to have changed his story over the years, maybe he doesn't even remember all the details.![]()