FYI, Jeff's Dawgduds do not mushroom at all and require virtually no maintenance over the life of the tip. I've tried most layered tips out there and none have held its shape as well or lasted as long as the Dawgduds.
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FYI, Jeff's Dawgduds do not mushroom at all and require virtually no maintenance over the life of the tip. I've tried most layered tips out there and none have held its shape as well or lasted as long as the Dawgduds.
I've been using Jeff's Milkduds for a long time now and can say with confidence that if you break with your playing cue they absolutely mushroom. I know this isn't the norm, and under usual playing conditions the tips hold up superb. If the dud mushrooms on you though, it's an easy trim, and you'll only need to do this once after install
Well Jeff's Dawgduds are very well respected on the forum and i don't think i would question it reliability. Can anyone tell me about the history behind the thought process how someone came up with the idea to soak leather in milk to soften the cue tip?
Not ready to change my tip yet as I do play with a layered tip right now wanted to shoot with someone else cue for a while to see if i would like it.
Not ready to change my tip yet as I do play with a layered tip right now wanted to shoot with someone else cue for a while to see if i would like it.
Yep. My experience, too. Once I get it shaped, doesn't mushroom and I never have to touch it again, rarely tip pick it maybe once every 50 racks. I'm getting about 7 months or more out of one, most consistent long lasting tip I've ever used, and I was a Kamui Black guy.
I had heard the Filipinos started this many years ago, but actually I know milk duds have been around since at least the '70s, maybe earlier. The Filipino players are ingenious and creative, but I'm not sure they invented milk duds...Efren has been known to cut old Elk Master tips off house cues with a pen knife and have his tip guy put them on his cue...the years of play and conditions of a pool hall wall cue naturally created the feel he wanted on his tip. As for milk duds, the lactic acid in the milk solution (some use buttermilk, others regular, but they put other stuff in the mix) does something to the leather/pig skin, breaking down and softening the tip, then the press and drying process hardens it. takes several days. Gives you a hard tip that plays/grips like a soft tip. Used to be you had your own process or "knew a guy" that did them. Kind of word of mouth. On AZB our guy is Pooldawg8. When I had Jerry Rauenzahn build my cue, I mailed him Pooldawg8 milk duds to put on the shafts.
How overpriced can they be, I've never even had a black kamui hard mushroom on me.
And I use one of those on my break cue, plus one on my player.
But not even the one on the break cue has mushroomed one bit.
I got a cow that's gone dry
and a hen that won't lay.
A big stack a bills
that gets bigger each day.
I'm busted.
--Ray Charles
The best endorsement for Milk Duds would be that Efren and Earl are both life long users ... of course they have never been paid to use them.
I wonder how many endorsement deals these two have turned down to use the latest layered tip from some manufacturer?
I wonder how many endorsement deals these two have turned down to use the latest layered tip from some manufacturer?
Never tried a hard, but the soft and medium Kamui's do mushroom, and have a tendency to glaze over, at least in my experience. I get free tips all the time from playing in Kamui-sponsored events and I just give them all to friends and stick to my milkduds.
A very good tip,there are several different layers and single layer tips and so goes the milk dud, I tried 6 soaking agents all milk before I found the right mix and soaking time(very important),compressing rate, etc., the dbl. soaked elk master used for breaking and jumping is a dbl dud.....toot toot NO DELAMINATIONI'll post when I make 3 0f each and they will b free to the first 3 pm'ers conus only
This is one time once again that it is ok to tell the OP to use the Search Function.
There are at least 500 Threads on making Duds. Just kidding, kinda.
As much fun as it is to make your own device and do them yourself, buy them from
Dawgs Duds.
His are consistent more so than any that you will make. For a few bucks, you can buy a life time supply from him.
Buy ten from him for less than what it will cost you for a few beer and table plugs.
I still play about and make the odd few, but when I put one on or anyone asks for one, chances are great that it will be one of his.
He did promise me that he will leave me his recipe in his Will. Not that I want him to die or anything. Just that I doubt it will ever happen. Not before me anyway.
Dorman, if you made that jig in the pictoore, I will have to say that is one of the bestest Home Made Dud Jigs that I have seen so far.
There are at least 500 Threads on making Duds. Just kidding, kinda.
As much fun as it is to make your own device and do them yourself, buy them from
Dawgs Duds.
His are consistent more so than any that you will make. For a few bucks, you can buy a life time supply from him.
Buy ten from him for less than what it will cost you for a few beer and table plugs.
I still play about and make the odd few, but when I put one on or anyone asks for one, chances are great that it will be one of his.
He did promise me that he will leave me his recipe in his Will. Not that I want him to die or anything. Just that I doubt it will ever happen. Not before me anyway.
Dorman, if you made that jig in the pictoore, I will have to say that is one of the bestest Home Made Dud Jigs that I have seen so far.
elkmasters are 50 cents, and you probably already have milk and a clamp
I'd rather make a few of these every year than spend $25/pop on a laminated tip that doesn't work any better than my 50 cent dud.
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I installed a Pooldawg8 tip on my cue a few months ago. When I first began playing with, I did not have comfortable control with the cue ball. HOWEVER, the more I played with it, the better the control became. I am now super happy with the cue ball control resulting from the dud tip. I want you to know that if you try a milk dud, you may have to play a few racks of pool to get the feel. I have not had any problems with mushrooming or glazing of the tip as of now. Super product for the money.
I like them.
I have been using PoolDawg8 Milk Duds for a few months now and I really like them. Combined with Magic Chalk miscues are seldom and when they happen I believe they are the result of a careless stroke.
I still have a spare Kamui Medium and Soft black tip and I have used them for a few years. I will probably sell them and just use the Milk Duds.
Milk Duds are reasonably priced in my opinion and I like the idea of buying a good tip from a forum member.
Are they the best tip on the market and are they suitable for a break tip? I think they are plenty good for any use and as we all know the guy doing the shooting has to decide for him self.
I also think the average player would be ok using and breaking with them, but I also believe break cues are over rated.
Not that any one on here cares or admits to caring about what the Pro's use, Shane is or was using them, so that is a pretty good endorsement.
I also have no idea where he got them or whose Milk Dud he is using. Just saying....
I have been using PoolDawg8 Milk Duds for a few months now and I really like them. Combined with Magic Chalk miscues are seldom and when they happen I believe they are the result of a careless stroke.
I still have a spare Kamui Medium and Soft black tip and I have used them for a few years. I will probably sell them and just use the Milk Duds.
Milk Duds are reasonably priced in my opinion and I like the idea of buying a good tip from a forum member.
Are they the best tip on the market and are they suitable for a break tip? I think they are plenty good for any use and as we all know the guy doing the shooting has to decide for him self.
I also think the average player would be ok using and breaking with them, but I also believe break cues are over rated.
Not that any one on here cares or admits to caring about what the Pro's use, Shane is or was using them, so that is a pretty good endorsement.
I also have no idea where he got them or whose Milk Dud he is using. Just saying....
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