Milky color under or in clear

RocketQ

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I know I will probably get thrown to the hounds but has any one seen clear turn milky? This is an older cue. Don't know who made it however it looks to have a uv finish. I will post some pictures as soon as I find my camera after the move. Just asking to see if it is possible to get the milk out with out a refinish? It almost looks like the clear let go but it seems still to be stuck pretty good.
JOhn
 
Curious to hear the responses. I just saw a cue that had just been UVed and that same cloudy/milky spotting was in one area.

Gene
 
I've seen this type of chemical reaction before. It doesn't show up right away but then materializes after the cue ships. I've had it with different sealers when the poly was sprayed. It seemed to show up more often when used on the plastic family of materials.

Edit: my experience was not with UV.
 
This cue sat in a case by a heater for around 3 years. Don't know if it is from the heat or the clear lifting or could it even possibly be moisture? Only the fore arm is like this. The butt sleeve is perfect. Cue sat pin up in the case.
 
Sounds like seperation.. Expantion and contraction of different materials due to
The moisture or now lack of, being near a heater continously trying to dry out the wood.. ?
But, it's only my opinion.. went thinking about it.
Is the joint face open? That would be the only place that's not sealed. Did it have JOINT PROTECTORS ON? No sales pitch, mind you.. :D
 
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RocketQ said:
Piloted stainless joint no jp's
Yes, the bottom of the counter bore is not sealed.. Do all you cuemakers
put a sealer in that counterbore?? Most cues I've seen have bare wood..
That Stainless Steel Collor is now a heatsink sitting on the cue when being stored next to the heater..
That's another purpose of Joint Protectors, They suppose to keep moisture from getting in.. "Suppose" being underlined..mind you.. :D
 
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RocketQ said:
I know I will probably get thrown to the hounds but has any one seen clear turn milky? This is an older cue. Don't know who made it however it looks to have a uv finish. I will post some pictures as soon as I find my camera after the move. Just asking to see if it is possible to get the milk out with out a refinish? It almost looks like the clear let go but it seems still to be stuck pretty good.
JOhn

It sounds like the finish is Super Glue, I have seen it get that milky effect to it when not applied properly. It most cases it is adheared to the surface of the wood, but due to improper preparation before application the individual coats of glue actually take on that appearance.
 
manwon said:
It sounds like the finish is Super Glue, I have seen it get that milky effect to it when not applied properly. It most cases it is adhered to the surface of the wood, but due to improper preparation before application the individual coats of glue actually take on that appearance.

I have also seen super glue do that when accelerated to much. It smokes and turns milky white.
 
I've seen this with CA and with UV. The CA, It's usually the chemical reaction as mentioned, but alot of times when I see it in the other finishes It is because the finish is lifting.

Wish I could be of more help John, because Your are always willing to help others when you can, but unfortunatly, In both situations the only cure I know of is a refinish. Hopefully someone else knows of a cure that I'm not aware of.


Greg
 
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If the finish is lifting, there is no way to save it. It should be stripped and re-shot. The silver lining is that you now have knowledge of this wood's particulars with regards to finish. Seal the piss out of it.
 
Got the shop moved this weekend so not a whole lot of time to do much else. I will get pics of this thing soon as I will post new pics of the shop.
 
Either the finish has moisture in it which would have to have occurred when it was applied, or the finish is lifting.

Either way the finish is bad and needs refinishing.
 
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