Missing from BCA Open

CrownCityCorey

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Efren, Bustamante and Parica. None of which are on the list. Something going on in the Phillipines at the same time?
 
CrownCityCorey said:
Efren, Bustamante and Parica. None of which are on the list. Something going on in the Phillipines at the same time?

I believe they are playing in the Asian 9-Ball Tour.
 
marissayi said:
I believe they are playing in the Asian 9-Ball Tour.

I asked Efren if he was going to the BCA and he said "no", the impression he gave me was that the prize money wasn't big enough taking into account flights and expenses etc..
 
TheOne said:
I asked Efren if he was going to the BCA and he said "no", the impression he gave me was that the prize money wasn't big enough taking into account flights and expenses etc..

Hard to fathom. Efren has played in nearly all of the BCA Opens, and has had a lot of success finding good action at the nearby Cue Club. Why the sudden change of heart. Something doesn't add up here.
 
sjm said:
Hard to fathom. Efren has played in nearly all of the BCA Opens, and has had a lot of success finding good action at the nearby Cue Club. Why the sudden change of heart. Something doesn't add up here.

I think that the San Miguel Tour is slowly developing into a very attractive and competitive tour that most of the top Asian players are going to be favoring over US based events in the near future.
Lot's of us Americans aren't willing to admit (I'm American living in Tokyo) but the level of pool in Asia is skyrocketing, and the organizations concerning billiard events here in Asia are much more honorable and organized than their US counterparts. The Japan Open draws all of the top Filippino players every year along with several other international players resulting in a high level tournament, well organized, and without having to worry about the money.
If the UPA, BCA, and other promotion organizations in the US don't start getting their act together, we're gonna see more and more top players electing to play in Asian events over US based events. The organization is already here, and the talent is starting to show it's face.
dave
 
Tokyo-dave said:
I think that the San Miguel Tour is slowly developing into a very attractive and competitive tour that most of the top Asian players are going to be favoring over US based events in the near future.
Lot's of us Americans aren't willing to admit (I'm American living in Tokyo) but the level of pool in Asia is skyrocketing, and the organizations concerning billiard events here in Asia are much more honorable and organized than their US counterparts. The Japan Open draws all of the top Filippino players every year along with several other international players resulting in a high level tournament, well organized, and without having to worry about the money.
If the UPA, BCA, and other promotion organizations in the US don't start getting their act together, we're gonna see more and more top players electing to play in Asian events over US based events. The organization is already here, and the talent is starting to show it's face.
dave

There's a lot of truth in what you've written, Dave.
 
Tokyo-dave said:
I think that the San Miguel Tour is slowly developing into a very attractive and competitive tour that most of the top Asian players are going to be favoring over US based events in the near future.
Lot's of us Americans aren't willing to admit (I'm American living in Tokyo) but the level of pool in Asia is skyrocketing, and the organizations concerning billiard events here in Asia are much more honorable and organized than their US counterparts. The Japan Open draws all of the top Filippino players every year along with several other international players resulting in a high level tournament, well organized, and without having to worry about the money.
If the UPA, BCA, and other promotion organizations in the US don't start getting their act together, we're gonna see more and more top players electing to play in Asian events over US based events. The organization is already here, and the talent is starting to show it's face.
dave

I gotta move tokyo dave.... why cant pool be big here and nascar just fall off the face of the earth?

Mack
 
True dat Dave. I have said it before on this board and I will say it again. The future of pool is starting in Asia and the USA is going to be in nowheresville for the next 20 years in both player calibre and a proper professional pool scene. Honestly if I were Earl I would move to Singapore, become a citizen, and join the San Miguel tour. That goes for any professional player in the USA like Archer or the rest of them as well. The USA is simply doing nothing whatsoever to make this sport grow compared to Asia. No offense to Mike Janis and them who are trying some things out, they just dont have the power to effect the real change in a timely manner as we are seeing take place in Asia, the game is booming there and being promoted right and getting top quality events happening on a regular tour on a regular basis with a stellar field. I made my posts last year after the juniors and the dominance of the Asian players there and warned people of this, and now it is comming to pass that even those from the Phillipines that used to come to the USA are going to not bother when they can get better in Asia. As the USA looses more and more pull from players not comming out for even the occasional big events the catch 22 of suddenly not having those top players is going to do even more damage to the game in North America and ruin even more of its draw for spectators.
 
sjm said:
Hard to fathom. Efren has played in nearly all of the BCA Opens, and has had a lot of success finding good action at the nearby Cue Club. Why the sudden change of heart. Something doesn't add up here.

Yeah thats wha I thought with a few other comps either side of the BCA but he said something about flights costing a couple of grand and the payout being small, or words to that effect. I mean with other expenses he's got to be making top 2 or 3 and I'm not sure how much of his winnings he has to share if any?

But lets not get too carried away with the san miguel tour, the number of stops are down this year and the prize money is still "only" 10k to the winner. The overall quality is still not that strong apart from maybe the top 16, For example evey country has to put players in. One day I was watching a Thai guy playing onTV and I had played in the same comp as him the week before and he was pretty average to say the least. But they are moving in the right direction and there many other big comps apart from the san miguel in Asia.

Wish Efren was going to the BCA though :mad:
 
More insights.

Why is Alex Pagulayan, Ronnie Alcano and Parica (I've heard) have made Philippines their base now?

I think you can do the math, Prize Monies less Expenses and you'll quickly say it's not worth it. And that is IF you win.

When it comes to Asia 9-Ball Tour, The One can only see 16 top players as each country have only a number of slots allocated to them. Philippines, Taiwan and Japan I think has more than 16 top players in total. That's not counting the Koreans.

Look at it on the positive side, Asia having it's own tour, the Europeans and the Americans as well, then this people can all meet at WPC and then declare who is the best. I think it should be good, Asian money going to Asians, American money to Americans and European Money to Europeans.

Where am I going here? Really, nowhere. :)
Just blah blah blah blah blah.....
 
Well I'm not going to say that Japan doesn't have it's own problems. We have two tours here and they are basically killing eachother. Members or each tour are not allowed to compete in the rivals events. However, it's my belief that some of the better players in the world are some known and unknown players based right here in Asia, and it just makes sense from the expenses point of view to stay in the area and play for the $10,000 first prize because even after expenses, the guy can still keep a considerable amount of change. Winning only $10,000 in a US event for an Asian player just doesn't leave much left over after expenses. I'm an amateur player here, and from time to time I play in some of the pro events, and I'm starting to see some pretty talented amateur players coming out of the house tournament scene. There are a couple of these guys that can catch a world class player off guard on a good day.
dave
 
stolz2 said:
I gotta move tokyo dave.... why cant pool be big here and nascar just fall off the face of the earth?

Mack

With all the talent and skill required in pool, I would think it would be more popular than Nascar. I tried watching a race once, and personally got tired of cheering "go left! go left!"... you kinda wait for someone to screw up and turn right lol
 
marissayi said:
you kinda wait for someone to screw up and turn right lol
I'm pretty sure that's why people watch it. I guess some people think car wrecks are fun. I was just in one last night, and I can say with certainty, it ain't no fun (this was my first wreck). A girl ran a stop sign and T-boned my car, which is only 7 months old. Nobody was hurt (she had 2 friends with her), but her car is definitely totaled, and I'll find out tomorrow if mine is. I did learn one thing, though. If the wife wants me to make a run to the store for ice cream at 10:30 pm again, I'm going to say tough shit.

Here's what's left of my car. Note the lack of a passenger-side front tire - it was knocked off by the impact. The car, according to the officer at the scene, looks "remarkably good" considering it was hit by a car doing about 40 mph. I told him he should have seen it before it was hit....

RX8-001.jpg


-djb
 
DoomCue said:
I'm pretty sure that's why people watch it. I guess some people think car wrecks are fun. I was just in one last night, and I can say with certainty, it ain't no fun (this was my first wreck). A girl ran a stop sign and T-boned my car, which is only 7 months old. Nobody was hurt (she had 2 friends with her), but her car is definitely totaled, and I'll find out tomorrow if mine is. I did learn one thing, though. If the wife wants me to make a run to the store for ice cream at 10:30 pm again, I'm going to say tough shit.

Here's what's left of my car. Note the lack of a passenger-side front tire - it was knocked off by the impact. The car, according to the officer at the scene, looks "remarkably good" considering it was hit by a car doing about 40 mph. I told him he should have seen it before it was hit....
-djb
Looks like RX-8's hold up pretty well. Especially for a little car.
 
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