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[Steve Lipsky]

Ha, there's a blast from the past. Thanks for digging this one up, Hank, and for all the replies today. John, I wish you could know the feeling of someone twice your speed thanking you for a post, but sadly, you never will .

I think the only thing I would do differently, upon re-reading this, is to change the look of diagram #3 ("which side to break the cluster"). I was only concentrating on the lesson in which side of the 6 to be on, and was too lazy to change the rest of the table. Things could get a bit touchy moving the 8 towards the balls on the upper part of the table (15-10-3-13), so you really would have to hit the cluster pretty softly. I did mention this, but the lesson would have been a bit cleaner without those balls. I also mention that hitting the cluster from A would move the 4 uptable, and saying this can only be the result of a high fever, since clearly it's going to hit the 2 full and pretty much stop. Maybe I changed the diagram after I wrote the text? Don't remember.

- Steve

 

[JimS]

Great thread Steve Lipsky!!! Thanks. :groucho: :groucho: :groucho:

 

[PoolSharkAllen]

2) Sculpting the table

http://CueTable.com/P/?@2AKGU4BCYH3...3JUkq4KDvW4LJIv3MNao4NKAA3OasA3PNYV3qUpPA&ZZ@

In this situation, you want to shoot the 10 and then the 15. But look at that 3 ball. It could be used as a key ball for your eventual break shot on the 13, but it has to be moved. Shooting the 10 and going off the rail with some low right should do it perfectly. And with the 15 right there, there are no worries of not having another shot. You should be able to get the 3 to somewhere around the "A" on a very consistent basis.

When I see my opponent do something like this, I know he can play. I know he is shooting and moving balls with a purpose.

Great post, Steve!

Instead of shooting the 10 and the 15, why not use that 13 ball as a secondary break ball right now and break open that cluster? The 6 and the 9 and possibly some of the other balls can serve as insurance balls if necessary, when going into the cluster.

 

[Ratta]

Interesting observation. I'll have to remember that one. I recently watched John Schmidt's 245 ball run and noticed that he reaches out with his cue and puts the tip on the table when he's ready to shoot the key ball. This seems to help him visualize exactly where he wants the cue ball. I know this isn't exactly what you are talking about, but it does show how you need to pay a little extra attention.

thanks!
dan

This should be in the pre-shot-routine of everyone imho- if you re ready with getting all informations (sequences-the way you gonna play etc) you have to *play the ball in your mind* and this with all what he s needin-speed..and sound-try to imagine what the cueball is doing while and after you stroked it- that s a great help. That s a bit what John s doing as well (correct me if m wrong)- he played the complete stroke already *in his mind* and the final thing is a mental finish *to end his pre-shot-routine*

lg
Ingo

 

[14-1StraightMan]

We can use you

This should be in the pre-shot-routine of everyone imho- if you re ready with getting all informations (sequences-the way you gonna play etc) you have to *play the ball in your mind* and this with all what he s needin-speed..and sound-try to imagine what the cueball is doing while and after you stroked it- that s a great help. That s a bit what John s doing as well (correct me if m wrong)- he played the complete stroke already *in his mind* and the final thing is a mental finish *to end his pre-shot-routine*

lg
Ingo

Good point. We can use your help over here in the US. Like I said once before in another comment section. We need more people like you and Randy G. helping us players who are "willing" to learn.
Thanks

 

[Steve Lipsky]

Great post, Steve!

Instead of shooting the 10 and the 15, why not use that 13 ball as a secondary break ball right now and break open that cluster? The 6 and the 9 and possibly some of the other balls can serve as insurance balls if necessary, when going into the cluster.

Hi Allen,

I could have been more precise with drawing some of the diagrams, or at least in my text. For that example, the rest of the table was irrelevant. I was merely trying to show the importance of bumping certain balls, which the casual player might not think need to be bumped.

- Steve

 

[Vahmurka]

I suggest we apply for a Sticky for this thread (as well as for other few every 14.1 addict should be aware of). They get drowned pretty soon and even I have read them before I forgot about them and read like new again. I would prefer them be really Sticky.

 

[Ratta]

Good point. We can use your help over here in the US. Like I said once before in another comment section. We need more people like you and Randy G. helping us players who are "willing" to learn.
Thanks

Uhm....now i m getting a bit red
to say my name next to RandyG - i really love to help and give my knowledge to other guys- but RandyG is for sure far more experienced and an absolutly amazing instructor im lookin up, too.

thx for your kind words!

Ingo

 

[Chris_Lynch]

I missed this the first time around so it's great that this is back. Thank you Steve for posting this in the first place. I guess I should do a search for all threads you've started as I have no idea how many I might have missed. This is excellent.

 

[pdcue]

great job steve,if i was as articulate as you and could type as fast and well thought out i would love to contribute like this.

everybody on here is fortunate to have someone as smart as you to help them learn. ive learned some things from your posts as well and honestly dont remember ever disagreeing with anything you say.
you play damn sporty too.

Very gracios comment...

FWIW - I doubt anyone here cares how articulate your posts are,
like the DVDs, it is the content that matters.

Dale

 

[Hank]

Great thread steve

Thanks Steve for taking time to share your knowledge with us!I have a lot of work ahead of me.P\S--Rolando Aravena & Ray Martin have been working with me.They think there is HOPE for me.LOL>>THANK YOU<<HANK