By players stroking more smoothly and underspeed for the conditions. This could account for even a slight amount of chalk dust causing skid friction. In the old grimy days, players had to put more oomph into a stick and probably may have defaulted to higher average hit speeds. Thread asked for ideas.
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Seriously??
Nuther thing I can tack onto better conditions, less occasion to use medium or more english. For instance in the before times, players had to spin the ball just to move it around. There's a possibility that chalk "burrs" were less likely to make direct contact or even grab as much as they would on modern slomo conditions.
Just a theory. Ever had to struggle with a sticky house cue? Couldn't even slow roll a ball nearly.
Sorry bud but nothing you've espoused so far has anything to do with why there are skids. Dirt/chalk at the cb-ob contact point causing more friction. That's it.
Some cue balls retain chalk marks much worse than others, which makes skids more likely when using Master chalk as opposed to a cleaner chalk such as Taom.
The Red circle Aramith is in my opinion the cleanest ball compared other Aramith cue balls such as the pro cup measle ball, even though some claim it gets smaller/lighter than other cue balls, but that’s largely due to a lot of usage.
Yes but the question was why are there apparently more these days. A skid doesn't have to be that classic sudden catastrophic cut failure. There can be varying degrees and in better conditions those lesser degrees catalyzed by less and less input.
I just cited a theory that a rapidly spinning ball from the age where you had to spin the ball to propel it around the table, may be less likely to make that chalk connection where the same ball under modern conditions would go the distance with less speed and less spin increasing the likelihood of that fatal connection.
This skid term might be processed differently between you and me.
My skid understanding relates to slippage.
Meaning when you draw a ball with excessive back spin, it's like a yo/yo effect.
The ball is spinning/skidding/ as it's reversing, like tires in snow till it gets traction, then almost like a second gear it takes off.
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Since you've started playing again, are you or the others using the new chalk or Masters?
KY player here...humid as hell in the summers also. Skids (called kicks overseas) happen...but not too much. Sometime, rarely, I've seen a kick so bad the entire cue ball hops off the bed of the slate, even at slow speed. Damnest thing I've ever seen.....no stroke error either. Those were very rare, so rare as to be never forgotten. But overall, I'm digging the new Taom V10...super clean and I actually think this new sh!t causes less skids.
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Though I gave the new players a whirl I’m a masters guy until something else just blows me away.
About half the people I’ve played with use one of the newer chalks but I’ve mostly only used masters except the few times I borrowed a friends Taom or other.
I have about half a gross of masters at my house. For my home table, Taom only....way way cleaner and for that reason alone, no other chalk allowed in my house anymore. For the pool room, I'll use masters there, cuz they have to clean the balls and table (cruel, I know).
My thinking of ''cling'' would be when you coming across/cutting a dark/dirty object ball at a slow speed, the contact would cause a sticking/clinging movement/rotation on the obj. ball when NOT at a high speed.
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Man I love y’all but every time someone says Tulsa/Oklahoma is humid I lmfao. I remember piggy banks crying saying thaf playing David Strawn 20 years ago and I laughed then about it.
I am of course from south Louisiana so I’m def cynical about that lol….tho oddly enough my table offshore the Brunswick prestige I restored and slapped Artemis intercontinental 66 and Simonis 860hr….that sob plays fast and awesome despite the really crazy humidity. The 4” pockets are a muddafugga so I’m the only one that plays on it…I told them it was an accident that I made it so tight but it is possible I was 100% lying to them
. Oh well more for me in better condition for longer hahahahhaNot like down there but still humid as hell. Anything over 60% is no good for pool. Balls bank/kick like demented orbs with minds of their own.Man I love y’all but every time someone says Tulsa/Oklahoma is humid I lmfao. I remember piggy banks crying saying thaf playing David Strawn 20 years ago and I laughed then about it.
I am of course from south Louisiana so I’m def cynical about that lol….tho oddly enough my table offshore the Brunswick prestige I restored and slapped Artemis intercontinental 66 and Simonis 860hr….that sob plays fast and awesome despite the really crazy humidity. The 4” pockets are a muddafugga so I’m the only one that plays on it…I told them it was an accident that I made it so tight but it is possible I was 100% lying to them
I remember playing Whitey Walker and his friend in a room along the Mississippi years ago, Ardell Leseur's (he'd passed) but, his widowed wife was there, very attractive gal.
Anywho, the doors were open, its was a downpour, southern style/heavy misting and having played all thru the south, it was kinda normal/fun conditions for me, as I've lived and played in New Orleans twice.
The air was Warm and sweet.... loved it.
Anywho, the doors were open, its was a downpour, southern style/heavy misting and having played all thru the south, it was kinda normal/fun conditions for me, as I've lived and played in New Orleans twice.
The air was Warm and sweet.... loved it.
Pool should actually be renamed Demented Orbs. Well played sir.
That's why Brumback and Eddie Taylor played so well.
Especially Eddie, he was a rounder before a/c was created.
That's never been the widely used definition of "skid."
Patrick has it right.
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