Mosconi Cup 2024, Nov. 30-Dec. 3, Orlando

Why is the Mosconi Cup the USA (a country) vs Europe (a continent). Pool is more popular in Europe than the US. Why isn't it country vs country? Thoughts........
 
Gorst is getting most of the flak, but SVB continues to be useless as ever.
Agreed SVB hasn't done much either (the two dry breaks today in doubles didn't help), but it seems to me Fedor has made a mess of some solid opportunities which Shane has not really had the chance to do.
 
Why is the Mosconi Cup the USA (a country) vs Europe (a continent). Pool is more popular in Europe than the US. Why isn't it country vs country? Thoughts........
Pool is much more popular in the USA due to or league system. We vastly out number the player in Europe but we have so many that just go to drink and have fun. We don't have the structure to develop players the same. Our system is made to make money for league not develop pros. It actual gets hard for player around 700 fargo to even play in America. Where Europe has system develop their elite and help them finically to encourage growth we do not.
 
Guys unless Uncle Donald gives passports to a bunch of Asians Pros you folk have almost zero chance for the next 10 years.

Start with these two. Or stop this talk of tariffs and we will loan you Pags and Morra. Now go burn the bar boxes down and you should be ready by 2040. The only reason its this close is because you are facing Euro B team.

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Why is the Mosconi Cup the USA (a country) vs Europe (a continent). Pool is more popular in Europe than the US. Why isn't it country vs country? Thoughts........
My thoughts are that this question has been asked no less than 50 times... And always when we are getting our heads beat in. You wouldn't be asking the question if America was still dominant, as in the first days of the Mosconi Cup.

That being said.. I "think" the Mosconi Cup "used" to be USA versus UK... And the UK didn't have enough great players to defend itself, so they basically got their heads beat in every year. Just like America does now.

BUT..... Be careful what you wish for. The Polish team would probably manhandle the USA team in it's current form. No Jason Shaw required. Multiple countries in Europe can field a full team of 800+ Fargorate players... America cannot.
 
Caught up watching today's matches.

Europe isn't playing any better. Still outright missing shots.
They are outbreaking USA and getting shots after the break much more.

That said....the pool gods just hate USA. Every roll goes against us.

Tomorrow I'll watch but I hope Europe either wins the first set or loses.

Worst part is watching these guys prance around to the worst techno music.....our music gives theirs the 3 and out with all the breaks.
 
Guys unless Uncle Donald gives passports to a bunch of Asians Pros you folk have almost zero chance for the next 10 years.

Start with these two. Or stop this talk of tariffs and we will loan you Pags and Morra. Now go burn the bar boxes down and you should be ready by 2040. The only reason its this close is because you are facing Euro B team.

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Donald gonna come in swinging and make things right.

Remember you haters are the minority.
 
Did Wolford not qualify? How did he develop last year? He played very promising last year.
Not done much.
I got about as much chance of winning a big event from my couch...his game is still light years from an elite pro.
 
What's cringe is how comfortable you guys are, commenting on how she dresses. The thing is.. This is 2024, and women should be able to dress in a way that makes "them" feel comfortable, without having to constantly deal with sexist comments about it.
Black leather pants?
You must be a eunuch if you don't comment.
 
Why is the Mosconi Cup the USA (a country) vs Europe (a continent). Pool is more popular in Europe than the US. Why isn't it country vs country? Thoughts........
Thoughts? This topic has been beaten to death! Every single time! Again and again!
 
Sigh. Some of you people are stuck in decades-old thinking. The Mosconi Cup is one of the few financially successful televised pool-centric events in the past 20-30 years.. And people like you want to rewind the clock.

Here's a clue.... That image of pool you have? Doesn't sell. You have this idea stuck in your head that this arena is somehow "hallowed ground", when the entire point of it is the spectacle, with the crazy outfits and face paint of those in the crowd, drawing in people who otherwise WOULD NOT WATCH POOL. Yeah.. Let's totally have the ladies dressing in 1950's secretary pool attire. THAT'S how we grow pool.

You... Represent an aging American pool playing populace that dreams of going back to smoky pool halls with no music, no TVs... Just pool, mister. That ain't the market Matchroom is going for. And they would be absolute, utter morons if they catered to such a crowd.
.....yawn...u r a broken record.
 
Agreed...what % of that is luck versus skill....seems like they know something we don't at this point about the break

Last two matches today looking like must wins for a chance on day 4
This cut break is dogshit and all of them use it. No cueball control at all.

Put the one on the spot and throw the magic rack in the trash. The break is a joke now.
 
Pool is much more popular in the USA due to or league system. We vastly out number the player in Europe but we have so many that just go to drink and have fun. We don't have the structure to develop players the same. Our system is made to make money for league not develop pros. It actual gets hard for player around 700 fargo to even play in America. Where Europe has system develop their elite and help them finically to encourage growth we do not.
League pool isn't pool.....least not a breeding ground of great players. The minute you play good....you are basically shunned. League is why pool goes nowhere in this country.
 
I only had time to watch the Thorpe/Alcaide match and, though a few rolls were involved, it was just a case of two different classes of players.

I did see the woman dressed in white and there was absolutely nothing wrong with that outfit. She looked fine and classy.

Lou Figueroa
some people need
to get out more
 
I hate this so much. When talking and hearing takes so much effort. And does it really add to the party feeling when the audio is 2-3 notches too loud?

Judging from Europe it feels like the recent elections have empowered the boisterous and obnoxious types. And these types don't really like Europe so they go extra hard.

I may be wrong
Only an idiot would make this about an election
 
So pretty obvious Asia>Europe>USA

It's said that we don't even get close anymore. This year has at least seen competitive but in the end just still not enough
Between Fedor and Gorst being the only 2 "Americans" that can win on the big stage, they are winning a big share of major events. With Filler gone, that will only improve.

What makes these 2 the best in the world makes them the worst team players.

Their level of focus is needed on every shot...not worrying about leaving their partner tough which you can see them doing.

They are loners, introverts and are there to make their teammates stronger.
 
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Guys unless Uncle Donald gives passports to a bunch of Asians Pros you folk have almost zero chance for the next 10 years.

Start with these two. Or stop this talk of tariffs and we will loan you Pags and Morra. Now go burn the bar boxes down and you should be ready by 2040. The only reason its this close is because you are facing Euro B team.

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Who do Pags and Morra beat anyway?
You can play them vs Billy and Tyler and go broke.
 
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