Good news. It's all tied up! Team USA is hanging in there so far. 
Mosconi Cup 2025, Dec. 3-6, Alexandra Palace, London
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The bad news. All the trash talk in the world won't help Team USA win games. Better you answer on the table and not with loose lips. Once again they play right into the Euro's hands.
Doesn't matter how good Team Europe is, Jay, upsets happen all the time in every sport. You know what they say in football. on any given Sunday ...
Just a matter of time before the underdog wins. The U.S. is due. If these two teams played ten times, the U.S. would be bound to win two or three of the events.
ThePitster
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A few more tidbits from a Karl Boyes interview with Neuhausen and Woodward last night.
Woodward said last year, the players at his behest just played races to 5. Woodward admitted, again, he is not the best practice player.
But this year? Sky let Gorst handle the practices. Fedor set up a bunch of drills for the players to perform. A lot more structure and taking it very seriously.
Mortiz said he's all charged up to play in the Mosconi. He wanted he and Pijus to get the first doubles match, but the vets said, Ah, no.
Alcaide is the chill player in the group. Team Europe's Dad.
Woodward said last year, the players at his behest just played races to 5. Woodward admitted, again, he is not the best practice player.
But this year? Sky let Gorst handle the practices. Fedor set up a bunch of drills for the players to perform. A lot more structure and taking it very seriously.
Mortiz said he's all charged up to play in the Mosconi. He wanted he and Pijus to get the first doubles match, but the vets said, Ah, no.
Alcaide is the chill player in the group. Team Europe's Dad.
You are correct. Team USA has won three of the last eighteen MC's. I wouldn't be bragging about a 3-15 record though. That equates to a one in six chance for Team USA overall. In other words calling them a 6-1 underdog is about right.
And some our losses have been a 'tad' one-sided, didn't get to 6 seven times and only got to 3 three times. Pretty shitty record to be brutally honest.
ThePitster
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Interestingly, the UK sports betting offer USA at 2-1, with Europe obviously favourites at 2-5.
I like taking the odds on the final score, 11-6 or 11-7. You're still getting 3.5-1 on your money. I think I like Jayson at 11-4 and Moritz at 5-1 in singles. Europe at 250 to win 100 is not bad either.
Wow, that is really, really bad. Ten out of eighteen matches we got crushed. And only three matches we won. So that means Team US was only competitive in five other Cups (six or more wins). To me losing 11-6 or 11-7 is not really that close anyway. 11-8 or better and it's a good match. Wonder how many went that far?
Is it zero - zero? At workGood news. It's all tied up! Team USA is hanging in there so far.
We only got to 8 four times in all those losses.
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sudocrushms
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Said it before so i'll keep it brief: Europe can easily field 3 teams that could beat the Americans.
Asia could field half a dozen teams...at least...
(Preaching to the choir, i know)
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Badpenguin
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Maybe, but you can only play five!
Looking at Fargo, the next best five the US could field would be Mike Deschaine, Justin Bergman, Oscar Dominguez, Anthony Meglino and Tony Chohan. Lukas is much further down on Fargo, but he'd be a candidate for the team, too. Not awful, but definitely a big underdog.
That said, I think the current Team USA would stack up just fine against a second or third Team Europe. They would also stack up fine with all but the top Asian team imo.
Europe could field a second team of FSR, Kaci, Ouschan, Wojciech Szewczyk and Kazakis. I think Team USA would only be slight underdogs, at worst. Albin and Kaci have slipped, and FSR and Kaci have both been shaky in team events.
A third Team Europe would be Zielinski, Niels Feijin, Max Lechner, Daniel Maciol and Kledio Kaci. Team USA stacks up just fine with them.
Moving on to Asia.
Team 1: Ko brothers, Yapp, Biado, Chua. They would crush Team USA.
Team 2: Raga, Magpantay, Duong, Oi, Robbie Capito. Team USA would be even odds imo, and favorites on home soil.
Team 3: Wu Kun Lin, Jin Hu Dang, Jefrey Roda, Chang Yu Lung, Regalario. Team USA would be the favorites.
Team 4: Lee Van Corteza, Roland Garcia, Ignacio, Aranas, Harry Vargara. Team USA would be favorites.
Badpenguin
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I'm just going to venture a guess that several of those would have visa issues due to legal history, or habits that will prevent them from traveling for longer than a few hours.
I am not letting little things like aversion to travel, etc, get in the way of compiling lists!
Badpenguin
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I think it may be a little more competitive this year. SVB seems to have hit a gear this year, Billy has been sober for a while now, Skyler came to his senses and let Fedor do a little coaching. If Fedor can take 10 minutes away from peddling his merch, maybe we will do decent.
And also, Joshua hasn't had a great year like he usually does. If he is in the least bit not motivated or off, maybe the US can do better.
And also, Joshua hasn't had a great year like he usually does. If he is in the least bit not motivated or off, maybe the US can do better.
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