Nope. Because the better players will get out even on really tight pockets. The big pockets will help the struggling and weaker team get out when they should, and that will neutralized the advantage of the better team.
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Mosconi Cup week 2018
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Nope. Because the better players will get out even on really tight pockets. The big pockets will help the struggling and weaker team get out when they should, and that will neutralized the advantage of the better team.
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I still have nightmares over this:
The table plays the same for both teams.
That said, the theory that the big pockets are to give the USA a crutch has gone out the window -because the EU did not play well at all. If the EU is the better team, then the buckets should have served as a crutch for them when they struggled today.
That didn't happen.
So there's more to why one player or team wins than pocket size....
That said, the theory that the big pockets are to give the USA a crutch has gone out the window -because the EU did not play well at all. If the EU is the better team, then the buckets should have served as a crutch for them when they struggled today.
That didn't happen.
So there's more to why one player or team wins than pocket size....
That table looks tight compared to the one they're using this year.
On another note -
While hard core enthusiasts hate easy pockets....
The majority of casual fans don't know the difference and don't care. What is more important to them is the overall experience of the matches they are watching. That means drama and excitement prevail.
That said, the bigger pockets leads to more balls being made, more run outs, more jump shot success, more balls made on breaks....
That's more excitement. The exciting, "highlight reel" type shots trump the flukes. No one remembers the fluked shots. But the highlights are remembered and replayed.
It also keeps the pace of matches moving faster. Which is better for fans and TV.
How many balls went today that shouldn't have???
Probably about a dozen.
A dozen missed balls does not lead to a dozen made shots on the following innings. Some are left tough, so there are misses or safeties played.
So a dozen missed shots are, on their own - ugly to watch, but worse - they lead to maybe as many as 2 dozen more shots, most of which are boring kicks or safeties.
So you get the ugliness of misses. You get the breakdown of runs and continuity of ball making. Then you inject in safeties and kicks which are boring. And you add probably 30+ minutes more table time to the day....that's 30+ minutes of non-exciting pool.
None of which are good for TV or for casual fans.
While hard core enthusiasts hate easy pockets....
The majority of casual fans don't know the difference and don't care. What is more important to them is the overall experience of the matches they are watching. That means drama and excitement prevail.
That said, the bigger pockets leads to more balls being made, more run outs, more jump shot success, more balls made on breaks....
That's more excitement. The exciting, "highlight reel" type shots trump the flukes. No one remembers the fluked shots. But the highlights are remembered and replayed.
It also keeps the pace of matches moving faster. Which is better for fans and TV.
How many balls went today that shouldn't have???
Probably about a dozen.
A dozen missed balls does not lead to a dozen made shots on the following innings. Some are left tough, so there are misses or safeties played.
So a dozen missed shots are, on their own - ugly to watch, but worse - they lead to maybe as many as 2 dozen more shots, most of which are boring kicks or safeties.
So you get the ugliness of misses. You get the breakdown of runs and continuity of ball making. Then you inject in safeties and kicks which are boring. And you add probably 30+ minutes more table time to the day....that's 30+ minutes of non-exciting pool.
None of which are good for TV or for casual fans.
Wasn't able to watch any matches today, but I predicted that Kaci was going to have a tough time with the tight shot clock since he is normally a slow player. Did anyone watching see this as a factor to his pay?
I remember that shot exactly, because I was counting on a miss and I cheered when it was passing the side pocket, clearly a poorly aimed shot...and then it went in. Mesmerizing.
Definitely a certified kick to the modern euro legacy, now let's see if team USA can deliver another. Coach Johan is going to have them mentally prepared. I really think the factor of having two warm-up matches against team Russia and England (both close USA victories) and team Europe going in cold will be the template going forward.
yes, he was clearly out of his comfort zone. besides that he looked sick imo.
shaw was over-amped. billy was too, but still played good.
Great post Cheese!
But the better players should still get out at a higher rate on the bigger pockets.
Maybe at amateur level, but these top pros are essentially at the point where the eqmt should affect both equally
Similar shot was made yesterday (also by the Europeans).
https://www.facebook.com/mosconicup/videos/387612141977541/?t=5394
No.
If Player A is better than Player B. Then Player A (in the long run) should run out at a higher rate than Player B.
You don’t want the pockets so hard even the pro’s can’t run out but seeing them hit the rail the 2 diamonds before the pocket and still go in cheapens the game in my opinion.
A good example would be the us open in golf. As much as I love watching gold the us open is no fun to watch . They make the course so hard even the pro’s can’t get under par. Thats not enjoyable to watch at all. On the other hand I don’t want to see them shoot 40 under par because the course is so easy it cheapens the game. You need a happy medium.
On a side note I see a lot of those carbon fiber shafts being used that all the old heads said would be gone by now
I guess they might be hanging around the game a little while lol.
A good example would be the us open in golf. As much as I love watching gold the us open is no fun to watch . They make the course so hard even the pro’s can’t get under par. Thats not enjoyable to watch at all. On the other hand I don’t want to see them shoot 40 under par because the course is so easy it cheapens the game. You need a happy medium.
On a side note I see a lot of those carbon fiber shafts being used that all the old heads said would be gone by now
I guess they might be hanging around the game a little while lol.
But with short races, allowing the weaker team to get out more often, might allow luck of the better team not having the opportunities to get out (being safe), swing the match over to the weaker team and allow them to squeak out more wins.
Most better players will always prefer tighter pockets when playing inferior players.
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Thats just not true. There is a bar here in york that people play Apa on. They are a bad team when they come to our bar with average pockets. When we goto thier bar and play on thier valley that has arcade glow in the dark pockets that our even big For valley standards suddenly they our running out as consistently as I am and I’m still spotting them 40 balls. Lol It evens the playing field . We are talking pros here so as I said before I’m not really worried about that. Both teams with get some balls going in that shouldn’t . It’s a matter of making pool look silly with shit equipment.
It's like everyone keeps ignoring the obvious.
Yes, bigger pockets will allow the weaker player to make shots/run out more often.
But it will do the same for the better players.