> There used to be a small pool room in Kennett,Missouri,where the strange rule was that you could masse ANY way you wanted,but absolutely were not allowed to jump,and a masse that accidentally jumped was a ball in hand foul. This rule did not apply to the cue ball jumping off the break,or jumping off the rail to beat a safety,or rolling the cue ball up onto the rail to acheive down table position. It was basically put in place because the room owner could not jump himself,the best player in their area could also not jump,and since the owner frequently put this player in tournaments,bought his calcutta,and was nice enough to introduce his daughter to this player,it was decided that anything he could get beat by was not something he would allow in their tournaments. I had a guy try and call a ball-in-hand foul against me playing bank pool. I tried to explain that fouls in bank only cost a ball on the score,not ball in hand. He started to get hot,so I allowed it. Then,after we had started playing races to 5 for 100 short rack bank,I got my revenge when he fouled on his out ball to go up 4-3,I took ball in hand and ran 2 balls to win that game,then broke and ran out. The ones that really bother me are the ones that will roll you up behind a ball,or shoot your cluster-breaker straight in to keep you from running out under bar rules,with no ball in hand penalty to suffer,some of them will do anything. Tommy D.