I've been using a Dufferin for snooker and UK pool for 30 years. Never warped and served me well, when not stolen or damaged in temperate moments! That said, the game is 60% tip and 39% alignment.. the rest is cue!.
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At-ta-boy! Getting out an going somewhere always makes a guy feel good. I know it does me.
As long as you can see those balls, you'll be fine. If they get a little hard to see, then guess. :smile:
Not for sale Johnny, What cha mean, you want to be the Florida Kid or something?
Just teasin ya. The R360's seem to be a reasonable price and was toying with getting one at some point in the future.
I started off with an Earl model. I liked it just fine. Then I accidentally found this site and the World of more expensive cues.
Now I have more than I can use in a week and need another like a hole in the head.
Just teasin ya. The R360's seem to be a reasonable price and was toying with getting one at some point in the future.
I started off with an Earl model. I liked it just fine. Then I accidentally found this site and the World of more expensive cues.
Now I have more than I can use in a week and need another like a hole in the head.
I've had the R-360 since they came out. I was playing with the Cuetec 6" extension on it before SVB, but learned it from Earl. These R-360 are not your daddy's Cuetec...night and day. Mine was $136 new W/O the extension. Get you one. Can't beat them with a stick. Johnnyt
Good point. I will bow to your superior analogy. Many sports, jobs or situations can be accomplished by inferior or inexpensive equipment, especially at an amature level. Now, pool/billiards requires such a high degree of concentration and precision, that any slight variance can be detrimental to a positive outcome. So at a high level, good equipment can provide a nice degree of feel and feedback that may give players a certain amount of consistency and confidence. At a novice level, it may not be that important. But the implication that people who are willing to invest in their game, and the sport, are somehow "duped" is just being a nit. Plenty people like to make the point that their $50 cue plays like a $5K cue (and there are some crappy high end cues that this may be true with), but "me thinks" that most of the time this is just a poor way to make themselves feel smarter than everyone else, and to justify their general "nittieness." But "to each, their own." Plenty of people out their can beat me with a "Wall-abushka," but they never seem to try it though. :grin-square:
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there is a ring of truth to some of your post. one thing i dont agree with is your statement about some one claiming to be smarter because they can play just as good with a low end cue as a high end cue. ...at least i do not feel that way.
i do not feel there is a right or wrong answer to this topic. as you stated ...use what gives you confidence. as you probably agree ...hit and feel is subjective to each individual.
if you feel the only way you have confidence in your game is with a 2,000.00 dennis searing sneaky pete that weighs exactly 18.4 oz total with a slightly forward balance. and the shaft has to weigh exactly 4.1 oz ..ivory joint with a lepro tip and blue diamond chalk so be it.
if you feel the only way you have confidence in your game is a shon butt with an od shaft that weighs 19.2 oz toyal and the shaft has to weigh exactly 4.3 oz with a 3/8 x 10 pin ....moori medium tip and magic chalk so be it.
as for me ...i am just a novice and don;t know no better. i just use the confidence that comes from the 5'' between my ears and shoot the same with what ever cue i pull out of the closet.
It must feel bad to buy an over $600 cue and still not be able to runJohnnyt a 100 in 14.1 or over three racks in 9 ball.
I'm old. I saw drag racing go from a do it yourself hobby/sport to having to have a tractor, 4 motors. 5 mechanics, and millions of dollars in sponsor money. Another way of looking at it is they buy there titles and match races. Same with stock cars and midgets.
Thank goodness pool players can't just buy a $1000+ cue and win everything they enter. Billiards is one of the last games/sports that you can't buy your way into it. You have to have talent and put the time in. Johnnyt
I'm old. I saw drag racing go from a do it yourself hobby/sport to having to have a tractor, 4 motors. 5 mechanics, and millions of dollars in sponsor money. Another way of looking at it is they buy there titles and match races. Same with stock cars and midgets.
Thank goodness pool players can't just buy a $1000+ cue and win everything they enter. Billiards is one of the last games/sports that you can't buy your way into it. You have to have talent and put the time in. Johnnyt
and that is the difference, being less expensive in the pool world does NOT equal "inferior" quality.
There are expensive cues that would not play right to some, and there are inexpensive cues that might play great.
A cue does not cost $5K because it's a great player, it's because it's got terrific inlays, ring work, leather wrap, quite possibly ivory, etc. Of course, it may play great as well, but not a given.
The same cue makers sneaky pete would play just as well. So, it's not really about price ?
Personally, I prefer a very good tip as the most important part of a cue. I'll take a house cue with a brand new tip of my liking over anything made that has an inferior or worn down tip.
WHen I'm on vacation I don't take my cues, I just pack a piece of 1500 grit sandpaper, a small tip shaper, and a piece of magic chalk. And then go find the straightest cue in the rack
Graceful - Them's the best kind.....
but every now and then it doesn't hurt (much) to get to know the worst kind
and as for the cue, I think we all search for our "Holy Grail", sometimes it's a $63 Dufferin
Of course expensive does not equal quality, that goes with any product. But let's not define a product by an exception. While it is often possible that a low end production cue can play as well as a $600+ cue, they will not consistently do so. When a consumer purchases a product they want to know its quality will be ensured; that's why they pay more for certain products. If you take 5 random cues valued under $100, and 5 valued over $600, I am quite certain that in a blind test, most average pool players will prefer the way the more expensive group plays. I'm not throwing stones, just defending the rationale. I can't judge, I keep a $25 sneaky pete (with a $20 tip on it
) in the car as a back up.
. If you take 5 random cues valued under $100, and 5 valued over $600, I am quite certain that in a blind test, most average pool players will prefer the way the more expensive group plays. I'm not throwing stones, just defending the rationale. I can't judge, I keep a $25 sneaky pete (with a $20 tip on it
You would lose this bet all day long if they all had the same tip. They are all pretty much made of the same woods, the same tapers, the size weights. One is not going to make more balls than the other, just a fact of life. I'm not saying someone won't prefer one over the other, but the ball is still going in the hole either way.
I doubt even most folks could pick out their own cue out of 10 cues lined up to test hit.
With that being said, it does not mean I'm getting off Hercek's list anytime soon, but I know for a FACT my game will NOT improve even one bit when the new cue arrives. But I'm not buying it to be a better player, I'm buying it cause I like it.
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