Moved ball while jacked up?

[Deleted member 66136]

Cue ball fouls only. But if you move a ball during a stroke or right after (commonly if jacked up over a ball and contact that object ball on stroke/follow thru) then its a foul

I swear I've played this rule but I can't remember which tournament/tour used it

 

[maha]

seems some people are making up their own specialty rules as this thread goes on.

 

[Texas Carom Club]

Moved ball while jacked up?​

That's what she said

 

[Bob Jewett]

seems some people are making up their own specialty rules as this thread goes on.

And I've played in a tournament where the rule was if you move a ball before tip contact, it's not a foul but if you move a ball after contact it is a foul.

 

[Bavafongoul]

Is that golf rule standard? What if you stomped your feet getting into position to elicit ball movement? Tamping the area around the ball with a

The rule was amended in 2019, I think it was for the 2020 season, that now states that a ball moved on the green by
outside factors like the wind gets restored without penalty even if the player’s putter was positioned behind the ball.

 

[book collector]

Maybe that was written for someone I used to play. His standard move if he was totally jacked up by an object ball was to drag his ferrule on the object ball on his back stroke to pull it back a couple of inches and then shoot with the now clear cue ball. "Cue ball fouls only!"

lol

You need a better class of opponent.

pj
chgo

How's he going to find one , he hangs around in pool rooms!

 

[NathanDetroit]

Playing in an APA match, I turned to set my water down. I turned back to see opponent's ball go in a pocket and one of mine moving from right loser long rail to the left. "Should I move it back, or will you?"

When I said, "Just leave it there.", hilarity ensued. She was way hooked. Turned to look at my captain, when I hear balls moving hard and fast. Eight falls out of turn. I win.

I acted the jerk, because of who the opponent was. She lives in my condo complex and pratices on the same table I do. She calls everything on everybody. Next time, I will remind her of the match, and the difference between rules and sportsmanship.

 

[sjm]

As long as the ball you bumped didn't cross the path of the object ball in such a way that it would have altered it's travel or any other balls that would have moved on a legal shot, then the opponent can choose to put it back or leave it.

This is how I've usually seen the rule applied when playing cue ball fouls only. Specifically, the exceptions are:

1) if you move the ball you are jumping over
2) if you move the ball you are trying to masse around
3) if you move a ball and cause it to hit a second object ball

In all other situations, it is not a foul and opponent has the option to replace the object ball moved to its original position. That said, however, this should be covered in the player's meeting in a tournament.

 

[Bob Jewett]

I think the best written discussion of the "cue ball fouls only" rule is in the CSI/BCAPL rules. You can find them here:

BCA Pool League Rules

Rules used by the BCA Pool League

www.playcsipool.com

See page 33 for the main part, but also see about page 91 for an extended discussion of how the rule is applied. You can download the PDF of the CSI rules and that's the best way to read them as the online version through the Scribd site has some problems.

The World Standardized Rules (WPA) do not include "cue ball fouls only" as a rule but do mention its possible implementation if a ref is not available in the Regulations. In general WPA events are by "all ball fouls" (full rules).

 

[Deleted member 66136]

Did joss tour and/or turning stone use this rule? any moved ball after a stroke is a foul?