Movin' to Phoenix

Steve

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I will be relocating to the Phoenix area in the June timeframe and need help with the following important issues.

Can anyone suggest an excellent table mechanic? I will have a Centennial to set up.

What are the good rooms for 9-Ball touraments?

Thanks in advance!

Once I get settled in I'm sure I'll be making the rounds to meet some of you.

Steve
 
Steve said:
I will be relocating to the Phoenix area in the June timeframe and need help with the following important issues.

Can anyone suggest an excellent table mechanic? I will have a Centennial to set up.

What are the good rooms for 9-Ball touraments?

Thanks in advance!

Once I get settled in I'm sure I'll be making the rounds to meet some of you.

Steve


Another one!!!!...from chicago even...(JK):D :D

You will be here just in time.....for the heat:)

Ernesto...(if you can get him to make the trip to Phoenix)

I am not sure I could give a "excellent" recommendation to any one else..."good" maybe...but when I think of excellent I think of Ernesto caliber...(perhaps some room owners will chime in)


As far as the good rooms for tournaments.....it all depends on where you live......(and more importantly what you are rated)

The better you are the more you are limited on tournaments......(just a fact of life around here)

No matter what you decide, you can't go wrong making Alexanders your first stop and getting to know the owner (Ron) and many of the patrons...Many will give you an honest steer to either tournaments or good action...

Pretty much the same goes for Kolbys and the owner (Jimmy Jo) if he is not fishing.

If you find yourself in Metro...make sure you talk to Jazz (first)...;)
 
BRKNRUN said:
Another one!!!!...from chicago even...(JK):D :D

You will be here just in time.....for the heat:)

Ernesto...(if you can get him to make the trip to Phoenix)

I am not sure I could give a "excellent" recommendation to any one else..."good" maybe...but when I think of excellent I think of Ernesto caliber...(perhaps some room owners will chime in)


As far as the good rooms for tournaments.....it all depends on where you live......(and more importantly what you are rated)

The better you are the more you are limited on tournaments......(just a fact of life around here)

No matter what you decide, you can't go wrong making Alexanders your first stop and getting to know the owner (Ron) and many of the patrons...Many will give you an honest steer to either tournaments or good action...

Pretty much the same goes for Kolbys and the owner (Jimmy Jo) if he is not fishing.

If you find yourself in Metro...make sure you talk to Jazz (first)...;)
I wish I had something to add. Sounds right to me.

BVal
 
Thanks gents!

If you can, pm me Ernesto's contact info.

With all the players in Phoenix there has to be someone in the "excellent" category.
 
Steve said:
I will be relocating to the Phoenix area in the June timeframe and need help with the following important issues.

Can anyone suggest an excellent table mechanic? I will have a Centennial to set up.

What are the good rooms for 9-Ball touraments?

Thanks in advance!

Once I get settled in I'm sure I'll be making the rounds to meet some of you.

Steve

Without a doubt, Dave Clayton is the best table mechanic in the area. He has done my Diamond Pro nine footer twice and my Diamond seven footer once. He is better than excellent, he is superb! Reasonable in price also.

Cross Side Larry
 
Steve said:
I will be relocating to the Phoenix area in the June timeframe and need help with the following important issues.

Can anyone suggest an excellent table mechanic? I will have a Centennial to set up.


Dave Clayton (602) 370-4164 HE IS THE BEST.
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What are the good rooms for 9-Ball touraments?

Kolby's in TEMPE.

Thanks in advance!

Once I get settled in I'm sure I'll be making the rounds to meet some of you.

Steve


Nuff Said. Buit you need to Drink Water 24 x 7 x 365 to combat the DRY HEAT.
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CrossSideLarry said:
Without a doubt, Dave Clayton is the best table mechanic in the area. He has done my Diamond Pro nine footer twice and my Diamond seven footer once. He is better than excellent, he is superb! Reasonable in price also.

Cross Side Larry
Is this the same CrossSideLarry that wanted me to come and relevel the slates on your Diamond 9ft, and maybe even swap the slates for a one piece 9ft slate?;)

Glen
 
Not again ???

realkingcobra said:
Is this the same CrossSideLarry that wanted me to come and relevel the slates on your Diamond 9ft, and maybe even swap the slates for a one piece 9ft slate?;)

Glen

Please, not another back handed slam at a fellow mechanic. Dave Clayton
is a hard working, honest individual who has most of the business in the
Phoenix area. I know of no one who has not been happy with his work.
He's there when he says he'll be there, and his work and prices are the
best!

Dick
 
SJDinPHX said:
Please, not another back handed slam at a fellow mechanic. Dave Clayton
is a hard working, honest individual who has most of the business in the
Phoenix area. I know of no one who has not been happy with his work.
He's there when he says he'll be there, and his work and prices are the
best!

Dick
I sent Larry a PM about being in Phoenix to do some work some time back, and wanted to know if he wanted me to come by and level his Diamond, that was a question for Larry...I don't believe I asked you that question...did I?:D If Larry has already had it done, that's fine with me...but I think Larry should answer that question...not you trying to blow it out of proportion:D

Glen
 
SJDinPHX said:
Please, not another back handed slam at a fellow mechanic. Dave Clayton
is a hard working, honest individual who has most of the business in the
Phoenix area. I know of no one who has not been happy with his work.
He's there when he says he'll be there, and his work and prices are the
best!

Dick
A word to the wise guys
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I have been checking out the postings on azbilliards for quite some time now. I have come to the conclusion that most of the participants in any given thread do not have a clue as to what they're talking about.
Most are either novices or wannabes.The knowledgable people can't get a word in edgewise. Thats why many have given up on this site.
Why can't the younger crowd learn to benefit from the experience the older guys have to offer. I guess its the same generation gap we have to deal with, with our teen age kids. Stop posting inane comments just for the sake of expressing your opinion if you don't know a thing about the subject at hand. It will make for a much more enjoyable experience for all.


Hope you don't mind, I got this from one of YOUR threads:D

Glen
 
SJDinPHX said:
Please, not another back handed slam at a fellow mechanic.
Please read the previous post:D

Glen

PS. Anything else you'd like to add, like sticking your foot in your mouth;)
 
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Word to another wise guy!!!

realkingcobra said:
I sent Larry a PM about being in Phoenix to do some work some time back, and wanted to know if he wanted me to come by and level his Diamond, that was a question for Larry...I don't believe I asked you that question...did I?:D If Larry has already had it done, that's fine with me...but I think Larry should answer that question...not you trying to blow it out of proportion:D

Glen

Then wouldn't another PM have been a more discrete way of handling it ?
3 Posts in a row tells me you really enjoy flaming. Keep it up maybe you
can parley it into another Ernesto, Oscar thread !

Dick
 
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SJDinPHX said:
Then wouldn't another PM have been a more discrete way of handling it ?
3 Posts in a row tells me you really enjoy flaming!

Dick
This is my 1539th post, compared to the amount of posts you made, I'll tell you what...why don't you go read ALL of my posts, and find the one that says I've flamed ANYONE here on AZ...ok? Find ONE post that says I've flamed another billiards technician, ok? Until then, why don't you take a little of your own advice, and keep your nose out of my business...ok? You DON'T know me, you know nothing about me, if you did...you wouldn't be playing these stupid games in this thread...ok!

Glen

PS. 3 posts in a row...all directed to you...one of them in your OWN words!...hmmm, maybe you should just stay out of the conversation...if you don't know what it's about....you think?
 
Hi Glen. I know both you and SJDinPHX, so I'm going to respond to this only because this particular post quoted SJDinPHX. San Jose Dick, or SJDinPHX, is not a novice nor a wannabe. He's the real deal. Not many of his breed left.

I just wanted to clarify that since, I understand what you are saying, and there is some definite truth to it, but Dick does not fall into that category.

Carry on with the festivities, everyone. :)


realkingcobra said:
A word to the wise guys
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I have been checking out the postings on azbilliards for quite some time now. I have come to the conclusion that most of the participants in any given thread do not have a clue as to what they're talking about.
Most are either novices or wannabes.The knowledgable people can't get a word in edgewise. Thats why many have given up on this site.
Why can't the younger crowd learn to benefit from the experience the older guys have to offer. I guess its the same generation gap we have to deal with, with our teen age kids. Stop posting inane comments just for the sake of expressing your opinion if you don't know a thing about the subject at hand. It will make for a much more enjoyable experience for all.


Hope you don't mind, I got this from one of YOUR threads:D

Glen
 
realkingcobra said:
This is my 1539th post, compared to the amount of posts you made, I'll tell you what...why don't you go read ALL of my posts, and find the one that says I've flamed ANYONE here on AZ...ok? Find ONE post that says I've flamed another billiards technician, ok? Until then, why don't you take a little of your own advice, and keep your nose out of my business...ok? You DON'T know me, you know nothing about me, if you did...you wouldn't be playing these stupid games in this thread...ok!

Glen

PS. 3 posts in a row...all directed to you...one of them in your OWN words!...hmmm, maybe you should just stay out of the conversation...if you don't know what it's about....you think?

I don't think Id care to know someone who lists a bio like this....
"Occupation; Fixing other so called Master technicians work".
Good night sir.

Dick
 
SJDinPHX said:
I don't think Id care to know someone who lists a bio like this....
"Occupation; Fixing other so called Master technicians work".
Good night sir.

Dick

If you want to quote something about my bio...why don't you do a little background checking first, before you say something...hmmm? I posted this a long time ago when I first started to post on AZ.

Have a nice night/day...or whatever:D

Glen


I'll go first, my credentials as a self-proclaimed "Master Billiards Technician"
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I started in this industry in September 1983 working for Queen City Billiards building home style pool tables, 7,8, and 9fts, 1 piece slates and 3 piece. Built a little over 300 tables in my time there. From what I know now, back then we built one of the best midrange tables on the market.

Quit in June 1984, to start my own billiards service business, didn't feel like I was doing enough to improve the players industry in the bars and pool rooms, at this time made the prediction that I was someday going to build the best coin-operated pool tables on earth...LOL.

From June 1984-June 1995, built the largest service business in Washington State with more than 300 bar/pool room accounts recovering over 1,000 tables a year. I pioneered the Iwan Simonis 760 cloth, as well as the Granito 2000 cloth in the bar table industry in the Pacific Northwest. I was also responsible for the major changes in the price of pool tables going from .25 cents a game to .50 cents a game in Washington State, as when I became so flooded with work, I started to decline recovering the pool tables in the bars that wouldn't change their prices, because they were the ones also that didn't want to pay my prices for recovering their pool tables because they only made .25 cents a game.

Quit in June 1995, turned over my service business to my younger brother. Started pursuing my dreams of the ultimate coin-operated pool table. Sold my first coin-operated pool table for $3,000 on July 15th, 1995.

From June 1995 to December 1999, built and sold 102 8ft coin-operated pool tables, and 26 9ft tables...called "King Cobra" pool tables. At the same time I also designed, built, and sold 200 King Cobra 2 platter ball polishers from Vancouver, Canada to San Diego, CA.

January 2000 started looking for a manufacture to build my tables. March of 2000, Tom at Global Billiards told me of Diamond Billiards wanting to build coin-operated pool tables, so I contacted them.

March 2000, drove out to their factory, met with Greg Sullivan and Chad Sharlow. Took Greg's proto type cue ball separator home with me to redesign it.

Returned to the Diamond factory in July 2000 with the redesigned cue ball separator, turned it over to Greg. It now worked on store bought batteries.

I did not design the entire Diamond "Smart Table", but did play a major role in its production as I had all the knowledge that Diamond didn't have when it came to building the "Smart Tables" If you look at the Diamond coin-operated pool tables, and the ProAms, they're kind of like a Heinz 57 dog, myself, Greg, Chad, Donny Hall all played a major part in creating this great pool table. Who did what is beside the point really, the bottom line is that the table was designed, built, produced, and improved on since it's conseption...by all of us involved.

I stayed on at Diamond until late January 2001 working closely with the factory as a consultant until I felt it was time to leave.

From February 2001 until now, I've been back to recovering pool tables and delivering pool tables as well. I work for Global Billiards selling their coin-operated pool tables, as well as occasionally selling some Diamond coin-operated pool tables too, as I also work for 2 different finance companies also, for the purpose of financing pool tables for bars and room owners.

So, let me clarify this for Greg Sullivan, as he would rather I not be possibly thought of as working for Diamond. I do not, and have not...ever worked for the Diamond factory, other than in the capacity that I have already described above, as a consultant.

I do however deliver a lot of their pool tables throughout the United States, but Diamond bills the customer for that, then pays me.

Now, for my abilities.

(1) I can recover bar tables as well as any other pool tables on the market, to perfection.
(2) I can repair broken slate in most cases to perfection.
(3) I can level any slates on any tables built, 1 piece, 3 piece, 5 piece...it don't matter to me. BUT, that don't mean I'll do it on junk tables, that's my choice.
(4) I can replace rail rubber to perfection, including shimming pockets if necessary, or requested.
(5) I can recover any pool table built, to include snooker tables and billiards tables without puckers or loose cloth.
(6) I can and do move pool tables, home style, coin-operated, don't matter to me, they're all easy.
(7) I have perfected a method of installing the bed cloth on pool tables that is unmatched and unchallenged by any billiards technician in this country, unless you learned it from me, as some have.
(8) I can recover feather striped rails, or bar rails to perfection with ease.
(9) I can repair or fix almost anything wrong with a pool table within reason.
(10) I can and have built replacement rails for Valley/Dynamo/Global as well as every other kind of coin-operated pool table in Washington State, and will soon be offering these new, better, after market rails to billiards technicians across the country for distribution replacement rails.
(11) And last but most importantly, I can teach my trade to others with ease, as this is maybe one of my best assets of this trade, and I do have the desire to pass them on to others who want to learn, or improve their skills.

Glen

PS. I forgot to add that I've also owned 3 pool rooms in the past, one with 37 tables, and was also a vendor for several years in the bar table industry.

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Steve said:
I will be relocating to the Phoenix area in the June timeframe and need help with the following important issues.

Can anyone suggest an excellent table mechanic? I will have a Centennial to set up.

What are the good rooms for 9-Ball touraments?

Thanks in advance!

Once I get settled in I'm sure I'll be making the rounds to meet some of you.

Steve






Also as most Tournaments in AZ are RATED (handicapped) you will need to get a Rating Card before being allowed to play. FYI
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Steve said:
I will be relocating to the Phoenix area in the June timeframe and need help with the following important issues.

Can anyone suggest an excellent table mechanic? I will have a Centennial to set up.

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Steve
Steve Leistikow is a traveller from the L.A. area - see the mechanic directory. He was in town a couple of weeks ago and was able to add my table to his list of jobs. He says that he gets to Phoenix fairly regularly...

I had new rails that needed facings installed (1/4" neoprene facings from Diamond) and they turned out flawlessly. The rest of the table needed final assembly, levelling and recovering, and it also turned out beautifully.

- s.west
 
I know Ernesto is very good but like someone else said getting him out here could be a problem. Also there is a guy named Charlie who owns or used to own City Billiards. I have no idea how good he is or anything else, maybe there is someone on here who can tell you what his work is like. I'm just putting the name out there as another option for you. I would like to know myself from others if Charlie is any good.
 
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