Movin' to Phoenix
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Nice table Brady, no wonder you are getting so good. Rated a 7???? mmm. I can't remember his last name went by cueball Charlie also. Did you buy the table from City Billiards? The place next to Main St Billiards?BVal said:If it is the same guy I am thinking of it is Charles Anthony. We bought one of the last table he ever built. We like our table very very much.
BVal
Hey Jimmy, how's that Gabriels 9ft working outJimmy M. said:Hi Glen. I know both you and SJDinPHX, so I'm going to respond to this only because this particular post quoted SJDinPHX. San Jose Dick, or SJDinPHX, is not a novice nor a wannabe. He's the real deal. Not many of his breed left.
I just wanted to clarify that since, I understand what you are saying, and there is some definite truth to it, but Dick does not fall into that category.
Carry on with the festivities, everyone.
wish I'd have had the time to set it up for you, but at the time I found out you were getting it, Diamond had me buried somewhere on the east coast delivering tables
Glen
Steve,Steve said:
Steve, in my opinion, i would say that all of the mechanics suggested are excellent at what they do. I have played on and/or had personal experiences with my own tables in some way or another, with all three of these mechanics. Personally, I think you will be happy with the work of any of the three. All are well qualified.
As far as tournaments, you will have to get a ratings card from a committee member before participating in any handicapped tournaments in Phoenix. As Ken suggested, Alexander's and Kolby's are probably two good spots to start. There are committee members there who can rate your level of play and provide you with a card.
There is a state wide, open tour, that Jimmy M. and I have started. The first event is March 15th (1K added every month/ 4K added Championship). You can get all of the details, as well as information on Arizona pool at www.azpoolscene.com. or you can check out our tour site at www.desertclassictour.com. It should be up and running soon.
Good luck on the table, feel free to PM me if you need any additional info. Welcome to the heat!
Dennis
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Sweet table,and why arent we practicing on it?BVal said:If it is the same guy I am thinking of it is Charles Anthony. We bought one of the last table he ever built. We like our table very very much.
BVal
Hey RKC,realkingcobra said:If you want to quote something about my bio...why don't you do a little background checking first, before you say something...hmmm? I posted this a long time ago when I first started to post on AZ.
Have a nice night/day...or whatever
Glen
I'll go first, my credentials as a self-proclaimed "Master Billiards Technician"
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I started in this industry in September 1983 working for Queen City Billiards building home style pool tables, 7,8, and 9fts, 1 piece slates and 3 piece. Built a little over 300 tables in my time there. From what I know now, back then we built one of the best midrange tables on the market.
Quit in June 1984, to start my own billiards service business, didn't feel like I was doing enough to improve the players industry in the bars and pool rooms, at this time made the prediction that I was someday going to build the best coin-operated pool tables on earth...LOL.
From June 1984-June 1995, built the largest service business in Washington State with more than 300 bar/pool room accounts recovering over 1,000 tables a year. I pioneered the Iwan Simonis 760 cloth, as well as the Granito 2000 cloth in the bar table industry in the Pacific Northwest. I was also responsible for the major changes in the price of pool tables going from .25 cents a game to .50 cents a game in Washington State, as when I became so flooded with work, I started to decline recovering the pool tables in the bars that wouldn't change their prices, because they were the ones also that didn't want to pay my prices for recovering their pool tables because they only made .25 cents a game.
Quit in June 1995, turned over my service business to my younger brother. Started pursuing my dreams of the ultimate coin-operated pool table. Sold my first coin-operated pool table for $3,000 on July 15th, 1995.
From June 1995 to December 1999, built and sold 102 8ft coin-operated pool tables, and 26 9ft tables...called "King Cobra" pool tables. At the same time I also designed, built, and sold 200 King Cobra 2 platter ball polishers from Vancouver, Canada to San Diego, CA.
January 2000 started looking for a manufacture to build my tables. March of 2000, Tom at Global Billiards told me of Diamond Billiards wanting to build coin-operated pool tables, so I contacted them.
March 2000, drove out to their factory, met with Greg Sullivan and Chad Sharlow. Took Greg's proto type cue ball separator home with me to redesign it.
Returned to the Diamond factory in July 2000 with the redesigned cue ball separator, turned it over to Greg. It now worked on store bought batteries.
I did not design the entire Diamond "Smart Table", but did play a major role in its production as I had all the knowledge that Diamond didn't have when it came to building the "Smart Tables" If you look at the Diamond coin-operated pool tables, and the ProAms, they're kind of like a Heinz 57 dog, myself, Greg, Chad, Donny Hall all played a major part in creating this great pool table. Who did what is beside the point really, the bottom line is that the table was designed, built, produced, and improved on since it's conseption...by all of us involved.
I stayed on at Diamond until late January 2001 working closely with the factory as a consultant until I felt it was time to leave.
From February 2001 until now, I've been back to recovering pool tables and delivering pool tables as well. I work for Global Billiards selling their coin-operated pool tables, as well as occasionally selling some Diamond coin-operated pool tables too, as I also work for 2 different finance companies also, for the purpose of financing pool tables for bars and room owners.
So, let me clarify this for Greg Sullivan, as he would rather I not be possibly thought of as working for Diamond. I do not, and have not...ever worked for the Diamond factory, other than in the capacity that I have already described above, as a consultant.
I do however deliver a lot of their pool tables throughout the United States, but Diamond bills the customer for that, then pays me.
Now, for my abilities.
(1) I can recover bar tables as well as any other pool tables on the market, to perfection.
(2) I can repair broken slate in most cases to perfection.
(3) I can level any slates on any tables built, 1 piece, 3 piece, 5 piece...it don't matter to me. BUT, that don't mean I'll do it on junk tables, that's my choice.
(4) I can replace rail rubber to perfection, including shimming pockets if necessary, or requested.
(5) I can recover any pool table built, to include snooker tables and billiards tables without puckers or loose cloth.
(6) I can and do move pool tables, home style, coin-operated, don't matter to me, they're all easy.
(7) I have perfected a method of installing the bed cloth on pool tables that is unmatched and unchallenged by any billiards technician in this country, unless you learned it from me, as some have.
(8) I can recover feather striped rails, or bar rails to perfection with ease.
(9) I can repair or fix almost anything wrong with a pool table within reason.
(10) I can and have built replacement rails for Valley/Dynamo/Global as well as every other kind of coin-operated pool table in Washington State, and will soon be offering these new, better, after market rails to billiards technicians across the country for distribution replacement rails.
(11) And last but most importantly, I can teach my trade to others with ease, as this is maybe one of my best assets of this trade, and I do have the desire to pass them on to others who want to learn, or improve their skills.
Glen
PS. I forgot to add that I've also owned 3 pool rooms in the past, one with 37 tables, and was also a vendor for several years in the bar table industry.
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Does your last name start with an H and does cascade family billiards ring any bells......BIG DADDY?
RayDM said:
There is quite a large population of C+ and below players in the valley...
The B+ and A players are generally percieved to drink less and spend less...I won't argue that point becuase it may very well be true in MOST cases...
Bar and room owners (trying to make a $$) going to cater to the types of tournaments that both draw the biggest fields and generate at least some ROI...(I can't blame them)
The perception in the past is the the better players drove away the "not so" better players and the money went away with the "not so" better players...
The weekly and even mothly events over time just evolved into a "something" and under tournament.
There is a local room that has run almost back to back 8 and under (basically C+ and under) tournaments and has been drawing well over 50+ players.
Mike H. had started the Desert All Around. He was successful to a degree in changing that perception...(I think) and now of late there are more events for the top rated players to play in...Jimmy and Dennis have picked up where Mike left off and come up with some ways that perhaps will even bridge the gap even further by giving lower rated players an opportunity to both play better players & still have a chance to make some $$ through side pots that the top rated players will not be eligable...(almost a tournament within a tournament)
If the 7s and 8s take advantage of that opportunity...I think there will be a bunch of them that will find a dramatic improvement in thier game....since you can only go so far by only playing 8s and under players...At some point you have to step up and take on the better players if you ever want to learn how to compete against them......Should be interesting to see the developments in currently "uknown" local talent in the coming months.
I expect that the weekly events trend will continue to remain limited to top rated players....right now (for example) if you are a 7 rated player you have no less than 15 tournaments to choose from throughout the week and can virtually play a tournament every day if you wanted.
A 10 rated player has only 2 in the week (that I can think of) that get any type of turnout whatsoever...
My perception of the process is that as you get better you almost "graduate" from the weekly tournament scene and are relegated to finding action where you can to get competition.
I see the "dean" holding my diploma and getting itchy ready to slap me in the face with it in the near future if I mess up and win the wrong match or event.......
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That was one of my pool rooms...LOL...and the only BIG DADDY I know of is Big Daddy "Rich Geiler"...LOLGetnbzy said:
Glen Hancock