AN instuctor was at the pool hall today traning a nice lady and was teaching the break, and I can get the cueball the highest in air from thebreak, and my way to break is to use my birdge hand on TOP of the wood. The instuctror was watching me after he was done with her and he siad he could teach me. Well I didnt need no teahcing since my brake is powerful. He said that its not powerful and then I said well why does my white ball fly so high on the breake, and he said cause my bridge is on top of the wood, (I fogot what that part is on top of the cushion) and then he said something like my bridge makes it hop and jump higher but I said no because the white ball jumps when I hit it so hard, breakause my break is powerful. Well we argude about it and he just shook his head and said my breake is week and he left. I did some more brakes and yes its powerful, but why would he say that, an dhe is an instuctor.
My break is not week!
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The ball jumps coz the force is being redirected and not going into the rack. If you can't take people who know more than you telling you how to better your game, then you are doomed to a long road of sucking!
And why did I reply? You obviously don't care enough to consider a change.
And why did I reply? You obviously don't care enough to consider a change.
cuetechasaurus said:
I can make the cue ball jump straight up on a medium break. What is happening is that you are hitting the ball with a higher bridge hand. The cue ball is slightly off the table when it hits the pack. Remember if the cue ball pops up in the air you are not getting 100% transfer of energy.
No- the solution is to keep the stick parallel to the playing surfacegh8st said:
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cuetechasaurus said:
I recently had surgery on my right hand, it is better now but I still lack the power of my break at nine ball. (I am an avid one pocket player.) However I now use the same break as you are currently using. It is the best I have ever had. It took over two months of practice due to my injury but now I can control the jump and have position every time, including 1-2 or 3 balls on the break. I will not go back to the old way unless the game calls for a few losses to keep the opponent interested in continuing. I am running every rack and am loving it. Do what ever is best for you, Pros do know what they are talking about. Don't argue with anyone better than you. What counts is the money. Practice both ways and use what is working at the time. The Tables have alot to do with the action as well. Good luck.
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cuetechasaurus said:
Unfocused power is irrelavent. Only focused power is. There is no replacement for quality of contact. That applies to the contact of the cue tip to the cue ball and the cue ball to the rack. You can swing like Godzilla but if energy is not transferred it is a waste of effort.
Everyone has a limit to how much energy can be accurately applied to a break shot. Here's how to find out what yours is. Place an object ball on either side of the spot where you can line up a straight in shot from the kitchen. Shoot the ball straight in with center ball, no spin. Shoot it like a stun through shot. The cue ball should roll straight down the contact line about 6 inches with no spin. If the cue ball is spinning, you are not cueing the cue ball accurately. If the cue ball rolls forward but to one side or the other of the shot line, your shot is not accurate.
The maximum force that you can make this shot with IS your maximum break speed. Never try to break any harder that this. You are wasting your time if you do.
Lots of people
will put the cue ball behind the head string with their hand
over the cue on the cushion to break. The problem with this
is that the cue ball is too far away from where they are
bridging, and they wind up on the hit stroke to let go.
What happens is they lose their accuracy on hitting the
cue ball exactly where they want to, which causes a loss
of energy, maybe jumping of skipping the cue ball into the
rack.
Beginning players do this a lot because they fail to learn how
to bridge properly for a break shot, on the head string, with
their hand NOT on the cushion. As a player advances in skill,
I have noticed that their breaking method also changes from
bridging on a cushion to a free standing bridge on break shots.
For accuracy and power both, it is actually better to shorten
your normal bridge a little when breaking to have more consistency
in breaking the balls, and break from the headstring, not halfway behind
it. If you have a problem doing that, then get a highly rated player or
instructor to show you how.
will put the cue ball behind the head string with their hand
over the cue on the cushion to break. The problem with this
is that the cue ball is too far away from where they are
bridging, and they wind up on the hit stroke to let go.
What happens is they lose their accuracy on hitting the
cue ball exactly where they want to, which causes a loss
of energy, maybe jumping of skipping the cue ball into the
rack.
Beginning players do this a lot because they fail to learn how
to bridge properly for a break shot, on the head string, with
their hand NOT on the cushion. As a player advances in skill,
I have noticed that their breaking method also changes from
bridging on a cushion to a free standing bridge on break shots.
For accuracy and power both, it is actually better to shorten
your normal bridge a little when breaking to have more consistency
in breaking the balls, and break from the headstring, not halfway behind
it. If you have a problem doing that, then get a highly rated player or
instructor to show you how.
cuetechasaurus said:
Congratulations. You've mastered a 3/4 table jump shot with a long cue. You are jumping the cue ball to the head ball and that's why it's going high in the air. Of course, dead paralell to the table is impossible, but close to level as possible will keep this from happening. It's like Chopstick and others said (paraphrased), if the cue ball is jumping high on contact with the head ball, then you're losing energy somewhere. If you're losing potential energy from the cue ball to the head ball, then the guy was right; YOUR BREAK IS WEAK.
Contrary to popular belief, a belief that became more prominent since Paul Newman said in COM "That kid has a sledgehammer break", you don't have to put excess power into a break to have a powerful break. You have to put accuracy, cue ball control and an efficient transfer of energy all together in one package. Don't discount the observations of someone who teaches others... he may not be qualified to help you, but then again, from reading what you've written, it doesn't seem that you have a good grasp of what a good break is, so if you'd set your ego aside long enough to listen, this particular instructor might have improved your game in just a few minutes. Hope you didn't blow a good oppurtunity to learn from someone with more experience and knowledge than you.
Later,
Bob
cuetechasaurus said:
.....But your spelling isn't very strong
This guy can't be serious. Can he? I'm bettin on that you do have a WEEK(LOL) break and that your bridge is 5" off the felt. The guy is a teacher for god sakes. You should have listened to him.
your girly break shot...
You seem like the kinda of pool player that "knows it all" and is virtually unteachable. Put your pride aside, and you may learn something. Everyone that posted backed up the instructor. So work on improving your break shot, instead of being upset that your pride was hurt because some one pointed out that your break is weak.
Mack
woody_968 said:
You seem like the kinda of pool player that "knows it all" and is virtually unteachable. Put your pride aside, and you may learn something. Everyone that posted backed up the instructor. So work on improving your break shot, instead of being upset that your pride was hurt because some one pointed out that your break is weak.
Mack
This is a funny guy! Weird, but kind of funny
I'm shocked some of you don't realize he is joke posting.
Check his other posts!
I'm shocked some of you don't realize he is joke posting.
Check his other posts!
cuetechasaurus said:
Your break may be powerful....but just think how much more powerful it could have been if you had just listened and applied what was told to you...
You could have always gone back to your break in the end....
Now, all you did was lose out on a opportunity to improve...
ChopStick said:
Very well said. What you are doing is maximizing the transfer of energy with control of the cue ball, otherwise a good break shot.