JimS said:
JimS, Simply have someone sew Terry Cloth to velour piece and attach other adhesive velour piece to bucket.
My home-made ball polisher.
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JimS, Simply have someone sew Terry Cloth to velour piece and attach other adhesive velour piece to bucket.
Fabric glue
I stumbled on an 11 oz can of "Elmer's Craft Bond Spray Adhesive" at Walmart. Cost about $4.50 per can. Originally I used it to glue the felt to the plywood ball holder board. Glue both surfaces and stick together while tacky. Works great on terrycloth too. The directions on the can states that the glue can be used for mounting lightweight materials (cloth and such) to wood, metal, glass, plastic, etc so it should work.
Later that night I found I had some felt glued to my finger and I had to cut it off with a razor blade. The stuff is almost too good.:wink:
I stumbled on an 11 oz can of "Elmer's Craft Bond Spray Adhesive" at Walmart. Cost about $4.50 per can. Originally I used it to glue the felt to the plywood ball holder board. Glue both surfaces and stick together while tacky. Works great on terrycloth too. The directions on the can states that the glue can be used for mounting lightweight materials (cloth and such) to wood, metal, glass, plastic, etc so it should work.
Later that night I found I had some felt glued to my finger and I had to cut it off with a razor blade. The stuff is almost too good.:wink:
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Maybe I can make the crank handle out of wood. I will try and include the PVC handle as a back up. How's that?
I can bore out the 1" or 1.5" oak but I don't know if it can take the strain. The machine doesn't need the pressure but I suspect that a user will "bang it around. Can't hurt to try.
I can bore out the 1" or 1.5" oak but I don't know if it can take the strain. The machine doesn't need the pressure but I suspect that a user will "bang it around. Can't hurt to try.
Study, this ball Polisher Patents, Its' can be mounted to a wall!!!!
Also Hand Crank Power. Dated 1929.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=X3dWAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1
or
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT1730973
JoeW, Could you made your Ball Polisher, Where it could be wall mounted?
Also Hand Crank Power. Dated 1929.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=X3dWAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1
or
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT1730973
JoeW, Could you made your Ball Polisher, Where it could be wall mounted?
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It weighs about 20 pounds. It could be hinged with a front support for wall mounting. However, I suspect it is easier to take one machine to the table and use for 16 balls rather than take 16 balls to the machine.
For home use the machine can be stored under the table and brought out as needed.
For home use the machine can be stored under the table and brought out as needed.
JoeW said:
I'll not be taking the machine to the table. I don't think I want it sitting on my cloth when I'm cranking it... if that's what you are saying.
I have a ball tray in which I'll carry the balls to the machine and it will be on a counter top or kitchen table.
Your right Jim. I do place a bath towel on the pool table, then the machine. So far it has not harmed the Simonis cloth on the table. The crank is very easy to turn with the new bar stool swivel system and it doesn't seem to exert any twisting force on the cloth.
Currently I use a bath towel because I have stained the machine but I have not yet polyurthaned the box and I did not want to get stain rubed off onto the pool table cloth. Once it is finished I think that I too would be hesitant to place it on the table cloth without protection.
I have counter space in my room and have no trouble with the machine marking the counters. I don't really have the room for wall mounting so I had not thought of that aspect when I built it. The sides are ship lapped and screwed together but I doubt they would take the repeated strain from a hinged wall mount. If it were to be wall mouted it would probably need angle iron supports to take up the hinge strain.
It does seem to me that in a commercial pool room it could be left on a counter somewhere and players could clean and polish the balls whenever thy wanted a high shine. Given the weight I think that table mounting with perhaps some sort of tie down that will make sure it does not leave the premises would be the way to go.
The machine itself is quite sturdy and was built to last a life time from 3/4" wood. The people who make the bar stool swivel say that their swivels have been tested with 500 pounds and several hunred thousand rotations - definitely industrial grade !
Currently I use a bath towel because I have stained the machine but I have not yet polyurthaned the box and I did not want to get stain rubed off onto the pool table cloth. Once it is finished I think that I too would be hesitant to place it on the table cloth without protection.
I have counter space in my room and have no trouble with the machine marking the counters. I don't really have the room for wall mounting so I had not thought of that aspect when I built it. The sides are ship lapped and screwed together but I doubt they would take the repeated strain from a hinged wall mount. If it were to be wall mouted it would probably need angle iron supports to take up the hinge strain.
It does seem to me that in a commercial pool room it could be left on a counter somewhere and players could clean and polish the balls whenever thy wanted a high shine. Given the weight I think that table mounting with perhaps some sort of tie down that will make sure it does not leave the premises would be the way to go.
The machine itself is quite sturdy and was built to last a life time from 3/4" wood. The people who make the bar stool swivel say that their swivels have been tested with 500 pounds and several hunred thousand rotations - definitely industrial grade !
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Two thought . What about suction cups been attached to the bottom. Or two square wood strip [thickness? x Length?]attached to frame so Polisher can be counter mounted?
Can your plan be downloaded after payment from your site or just mail?? This for your oversea friends.
Bob
Can your plan be downloaded after payment from your site or just mail?? This for your oversea friends.
Bob
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Thanks for the ideas fellows, i'm heading to Home Depot to get some parts and put something together to polish my Brunswick Centennial ball set.
Just a note in case anyone's interested, a set of Brunswick Centennial TV Balls lists for $389 on their web site - Ouch!!!
http://www.brunswickbilliards.com/b...ssories/pocket_balls/tv_centennial_balls.html
James
Just a note in case anyone's interested, a set of Brunswick Centennial TV Balls lists for $389 on their web site - Ouch!!!
http://www.brunswickbilliards.com/b...ssories/pocket_balls/tv_centennial_balls.html
James
I think an owner could screw a couple of pieces of wood to the bottom of the machine and then lock it or screw it to a counter top.
Suction cups or rubber bumpers might be an addition for anyone who felt a need to protect a counter. The machine does not bounce around and it has not caused any damage to my counter tops.
I built my own counter tops and they have seven coats of spar varnish which is a little soft but gives a depth and beauty like one gets on a boat.
The plans will probably be ready next week. I will wait until the person pays through PayPal or Visa and then email.
I want to be sure to include a complete list of supplies and where I got them to make it easy to build. There are now quite a few parts and they come from different places. The last two days I have spent more time running around then building. The next set of machines are currently about half done. The machine is not difficult to build if one has a wood shop with a table saw, radial arm saw, jig saw and a drill press. I no longer have to weld pieces so that equipment is not needed.
If a person can make a basic kitchen drawer they should not have any trouble making this machine.
Suction cups or rubber bumpers might be an addition for anyone who felt a need to protect a counter. The machine does not bounce around and it has not caused any damage to my counter tops.
I built my own counter tops and they have seven coats of spar varnish which is a little soft but gives a depth and beauty like one gets on a boat.
The plans will probably be ready next week. I will wait until the person pays through PayPal or Visa and then email.
I want to be sure to include a complete list of supplies and where I got them to make it easy to build. There are now quite a few parts and they come from different places. The last two days I have spent more time running around then building. The next set of machines are currently about half done. The machine is not difficult to build if one has a wood shop with a table saw, radial arm saw, jig saw and a drill press. I no longer have to weld pieces so that equipment is not needed.
If a person can make a basic kitchen drawer they should not have any trouble making this machine.
We shipped the "Waldron Mechanical Pool Ball Polisher" that were ordered today by UPS. Made the drop off before the truck pickup. I hope that those who ordered one will review the machine here. They do have wooden handles on the crank.
You guys got a deal. The next ones will be sold for $159.00 plus $30.00shipping. Kay (my wife) and I did not realize how much work goes into making one of these things even in a production process. We worked until 9:00 PM evey night for five days to get them out like we said that we would. A couple of business people reviewed the machine and the competition. As usual I under priced my own work. May not sell as many at this price but that is what they are worth. My "consultants" thought that they should be priced at $250.00 but that is just too high.
You guys got a deal. The next ones will be sold for $159.00 plus $30.00shipping. Kay (my wife) and I did not realize how much work goes into making one of these things even in a production process. We worked until 9:00 PM evey night for five days to get them out like we said that we would. A couple of business people reviewed the machine and the competition. As usual I under priced my own work. May not sell as many at this price but that is what they are worth. My "consultants" thought that they should be priced at $250.00 but that is just too high.
JoeW, maybe the plans will be easier to sell. Are they ready? How about posting the lated Ball Polisher picture with the changes you make.
Here is the latest version of the Waldron Mechanical Pool Ball Polisher.
This version uses an Ika Terry cloth towel on the bar stool swivel platen and a wooden handle on the crank. A wrinkle was placed in the towel to assist with turning the balls. However, it was found that the best cleaning practice is to turn the crank slowly for ten turns, rotate the balls 90 degrees by hand and continue cleaning with the cloth in place for another ten turns. Remove the wash cloth. Wait a minute for a haze to form on the balls and then crank faster to polish the balls with the polishing cloth. Here too the best practice is to stop in the middle of the polishing and rotate the balls by hand.
When the crank is turned slowly the balls will rotate on their horizontal axis but it is not consistent and it takes five or ten slow turns of the crank to get them to move the full 90 degrees. This is true when the cleaning pad or the polishing pad is or is not present. Even with a ribbed terry cloth towel and the wrinkle the balls have a tendency to rotate on one axis. Interestingly, rotating the platen slowly does help to rotate the ball on their horizontal axis.
I accidently spilled about .5 ounce of Aramith Ball cleaner on one of the balls. A residue was formed on the green felt ball holder. This dry residue was easily wiped off with the stiff acrylic brush shown in the photo. The machine now weighs in at 23 pounds. It was finished with wipe on polyurethane and Johnson Floor Wax as a finish. As can be seen in the photo I use it placed directly on my Simonis 860 pool table cloth. No marks were made on the table. The machine is stable and does not move around on the table when it is in use. I suspect that users will place it on a counter or under their pool table.
I have taken photos for the plans and will work on them tonight. With a little luck I will email to those who have requested and post on my site for download by others.
This version uses an Ika Terry cloth towel on the bar stool swivel platen and a wooden handle on the crank. A wrinkle was placed in the towel to assist with turning the balls. However, it was found that the best cleaning practice is to turn the crank slowly for ten turns, rotate the balls 90 degrees by hand and continue cleaning with the cloth in place for another ten turns. Remove the wash cloth. Wait a minute for a haze to form on the balls and then crank faster to polish the balls with the polishing cloth. Here too the best practice is to stop in the middle of the polishing and rotate the balls by hand.
When the crank is turned slowly the balls will rotate on their horizontal axis but it is not consistent and it takes five or ten slow turns of the crank to get them to move the full 90 degrees. This is true when the cleaning pad or the polishing pad is or is not present. Even with a ribbed terry cloth towel and the wrinkle the balls have a tendency to rotate on one axis. Interestingly, rotating the platen slowly does help to rotate the ball on their horizontal axis.
I accidently spilled about .5 ounce of Aramith Ball cleaner on one of the balls. A residue was formed on the green felt ball holder. This dry residue was easily wiped off with the stiff acrylic brush shown in the photo. The machine now weighs in at 23 pounds. It was finished with wipe on polyurethane and Johnson Floor Wax as a finish. As can be seen in the photo I use it placed directly on my Simonis 860 pool table cloth. No marks were made on the table. The machine is stable and does not move around on the table when it is in use. I suspect that users will place it on a counter or under their pool table.
I have taken photos for the plans and will work on them tonight. With a little luck I will email to those who have requested and post on my site for download by others.
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Has anyone heard from RealKingCobra, if he seen the Home Ball Polisher from Diamond Billiards yet and what their cost? I hope he post pictures of it.