My new Palmer!

TwinkleToes

TwinkleToes

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I have some questions;

I just bought a Palmer but I don't know if it is the real thing. What does his logo or signature look like? This cue has four points with a diamond in each point...it is in great shape. What would be the minimum that it is worth if it is an authentic Palmer with four points in great shape?

Thanks for your help/advice!

TT
 

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TwinkleToes said:
I have some questions;

I just bought a Palmer but I don't know if it is the real thing. What does his logo or signature look like? This cue has four points with a diamond in each point...it is in great shape. What would be the minimum that it is worth if it is an authentic Palmer with four points in great shape?

Thanks for your help/advice!

TT
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There are only 2 logos which are good. The first is "Original by Palmer" on foil inside of glass in the butt. The second reads "Palmer Custom Cues" with Palmer being larger and Custom Cues being in between the P and R. For a better understanding of what you have, visit Chris Tate's website www.palmercollector.com and see if yours looks like any of those. There are a bunch of "present day Palmers" which are not worth $100. Best of luck to you...hope you got a winner.
Joe
 
Okay...that brings up a question. If it is an authentic Palmer...how could it be worth less than $100.00? Do you mean that there are fakes around that are passing as authentic? Again...thanks!
 
Palmer

The more recent Palmers, while not commanding much in the way of $$$, play okay, and like any other imported production line cue if you get a GOOD one, it will play reallll well. Resale on them isn't much though.
 
TwinkleToes said:
Okay...that brings up a question. If it is an authentic Palmer...how could it be worth less than $100.00? Do you mean that there are fakes around that are passing as authentic? Again...thanks!
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The original Palmer Custom Cues USA went defunct quite some time ago. The current line of Palmer cues are made overseas, and have no collectible value.

Lisa
 
TwinkleToes said:
Okay...that brings up a question. If it is an authentic Palmer...how could it be worth less than $100.00? Do you mean that there are fakes around that are passing as authentic? Again...thanks!
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"Authentic" Palmers are considered to be ONLY those like you see on www.palmercollector.com. Much later, the Palmer name was sold and Chinese imports were made with the Palmer name. They are not actually copies or knock-offs, they are simply not USA made, 1960-70's era Palmers by Eugene Balner and company. They are not collectible. The association with the Palmer name is what they use to move their product. I am not saying that they are not a decent import, etc, much like Players, Lucasi, etc, but they are not the collectible Palmers.

You can also refer to the Blue Book of Pool Cues, 3rd Edition, pages 576-580 for more info. BTW, I did forget one more collectible Palmer logo, and that is a bullet with Palmer under it, and the name Pete Margo. Again, you can see pix and read the entire story of the American Palmer cues on www.palmercollector.com.
Joe
 
TwinkleToes said:
I have some questions;

I just bought a Palmer but I don't know if it is the real thing. What does his logo or signature look like? This cue has four points with a diamond in each point...it is in great shape. What would be the minimum that it is worth if it is an authentic Palmer with four points in great shape?

Thanks for your help/advice!

TT
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How much did you pay?
 
the new or rproduction palmer's are unmarked i think, i have bought a few they look good and play well for a $75.00 cue
 
Present Day Palmers

Anyone interested in the present day imported Palmers Please PM me.
I have the complete line available. I have been selling them for 10 years and definately know which are the nicest ones.:cool:
Although not original Palmers there are some very nice cues for the money. You can look at my started threads to see most of the no logo cues that have been brought in.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/search.php?searchid=1350684
The newest imports once again have a Palmer logo. They are some very nice CNC inlay cues with lots of bone and walrus ivory.
They will be at the Derby.
 
All of the info is much appreciated...thanks gang! Let me clear things up though. I have already bought the cue but it is sight unseen. The fellow is asking a certain amount...and I am willing to pay that amount because it is very little. However...I am going to pick it up tomorrow and he said that if I don't like it...we can forget the deal. What would be helpful right now is for me to know what logos, signatures or other form of identifying it would let me know that it is indeed an original that is collectable...and not a knockoff that is barely worth $75.00 or so.

I will visit the website that has been mentioned to see what identifying marks would help me but any further help that any of you would suggest based upon my statements in this post would be appreciated. Even if it was letting me know what knockoff logos or signatures look like. I just want to be sure before I buy it. Are any of you able to tell anything by the picture that I posted?

Thanks again,
TT
 
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You need to look here...

Again, as I believe it was stated earlier...visit this website.
http://www.palmercollector.com/
It is the definitive source (as far as I am concerned) for Palmer (the one's with real value).
Take a look at these and you should be able to discern if the cue you are looking at is worth the money you are paying.
If you are hoping to score a collectible Palmer, this is where you should being.
 
TwinkleToes said:
Even if it was letting me know what knockoff logos or signatures look like. I just want to be sure before I buy it. Are any of you able to tell anything by the picture that I posted?

Thanks again,
TT
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It is not about knockoffs. It is either original american made or imported.
The imports are not made to look like originals. Although some are nice cues, they are not collectible
Some of the import logos are green triangle, black triangle, gold block letters and Palmer in a Blue dot plus for the last few years until present there was no logo. Hope this helps.
 
The cue you are showing looks like an inexpensive import using the Palmer name. It's worth maybe $100 - not a bad cue but not collectible.

When the original company closed in 1994, they sold the name to a Taiwan cue manufacturer. They continue to make inexpensive, decent quality cues along the lines of Lucasi, that sort of thing.

They've used several logo's. One is a Blue moon shape, one is a Triangle, one just says PALMER in a modern font, some don't have a logo at all.

Chris
 
TATE said:
The cue you are showing looks like an inexpensive import using the Palmer name. It's worth maybe $100 - not a bad cue but not collectible.

When the original company closed in 1994, they sold the name to a Taiwan cue manufacturer. They continue to make inexpensive, decent quality cues along the lines of Lucasi, that sort of thing.

They've used several logo's. One is a Blue moon shape, one is a Triangle, one just says PALMER in a modern font, some don't have a logo at all.

Chris
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My guess is it is a model 401 imported in the late 90's. Probably a black triangle logo. They came in 4 colors, red, green, blue and brown, with 4 points and a mop inlay on each and the butt sleeve.
Pretty hard to tell from your picture though..
 
Just wanted to say thanks again gang! What a great site this is with a bunch of people that just want to help. I hope I can return the favor in the future. Hey Chris...that is an awesome site that you have. I spent a lot of today on your site and enjoyed it thoroughly.

TT
 
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