MY Road Story.....

JoeyA

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This thread has been inspired by Linda Carter, the Queen, aka rackmsuckr.
Her thread is GREAT and the stories have been fun.

For some of us AZers, we have road stories whether we call them road stories or not. I consider a road story any pool trip that is an overnight stay in the quest of cueing whether it be gambling, tournament play or simply sweating other gambling matches. The only prerequisite to this thread is it has to be about YOU. :-)

My story probably won't be as exciting as many of your stories but ....
Once upon a time, a long, long time ago..........

It was actually 1979. I had purchased a very small, new car, a Datsun B 210 complete with a/c and standard shift; a cool $5500.00. Bobby Hedrick, a pool player from Jackson, MS and I decided to make a road trip in my new ride. With the wife's permission (I married an angel), we set out on the road for at least 7 days maybe 9 if things went well. Our goal was to travel light, play hard, win a few dollars to cover expenses and see if we could make it on the road without having to spend much money.

Bobby was an experienced road player and at this time I could run a rack maybe every Fat Tuesday, although I was a determined competitor picking my spots. I had learned to become particularly adept at playing the gambling pinball machines and could beat most machines which had the tilt mechanism set at a reasonable point. So the game plan was for me to play the pinball machines (I was barred from playing them in Jackson, MS) and Bobby would be the pool player. We traveled at light speed across the Mississippi heading for Augusta, Ga where Bobby had some action lined up for him. Along the way we would stop at different pool halls seaching for easy action and loose pinball machines with good tilt mechanisms in them. I had developed a skill where I could hit the pinball machines with extreme force but tilt them seldom. This allowed me to play a little better than most people and besides that God gave me the reflexes of a Mongoose and the eyes of an eagle. So watching that ball go this way and that and knowing when to hit the machine to make the ball fall into the hole was a gift that paid dividends even at $.05 per game. They had just come out with the machines that cost $.10 a game and they were my favorite.
Anyway, I get to playing a $.10 a game pinball machine and run it up to a little over $150 or 1500 games. Sorry that I don't remember the names of the places or even the cities. We were in Bobby's country and I wasn't familiar with traveling in this part of the country. I'm wailing away on the machine looking to win more because the machine doesn't tilt that easy and I am just winning again and again. Finally the owner, who didn't know me from Adam, walks up to me and says 'THE MACHINE IS BROKE". I look to the side and I don't know he is the owner and I tell him, "No, it's not broke, it's working fine." Bad answer.. He bellows at me that at the end of the game he was turning the machine off because 'IT IS BROKE. Nobody beats my machines like this. It must be too loose and can't tighten up", he cried. Well at this point, I was just hoping to get paid and pay us he did. He had a couple of other pinball machines but they tilted a little too easy for my taste so we passed on any further hospitality and went on down the road. Bobby and I ate and lived "high on the hog" for those 9 days, eating steak until we couldn't stand it any longer. Bobby beat everyone he played, although he didn't bet very high. He and I won enough money to pay for all of the motels, food, gas and other expenses for the nine days and we each had a little over $100 more than we left with when we returned to Jackson.

But that isn't the end of the story and if you aren't bored to death yet, bear with me. We are in Augusta, Ga and driving into the town we are getting close to the motel Bobby wants us to stay at. Back then, I carried a freshwater fishing rod and reel with small amount of tackle everywhere I went. I am looking out the window of the car and I see this beautiful dark water underneath these bridges and overpasses and there isn't a boat in the water nor do I see any marinas or backdown ramps. Now I don't have a boat but I have the passion and so a few more blocks and we cruise into the parking lot of the motel and check in. It is about an hour before dark and I ask the check-in lady if she knew anything about the water by the bridges and the overpass holding any fish, particularly Bass. She says "no honey, no body fishes in them there waters". So I ask her if she thinks I could walk down the road and fish by the side of the bridges and she says "sure but you are just wasting your time". I ask her if I go down there and catch some fish, do you want me to bring them to you". She said "Sure, bring all you can catch", cackling all the while, knowing that I had about 45 minutes of daylight left. I promptly grabbed my rod and reel, a couple of plastic worms and a broken-tail minnow and trotted off to my city fishing hole while Bobby unloaded the car and settled in. Bobby didn't care to go with me so I literally ran off down the road, knowing that time was precious. It is about 3 city blocks away and I am out of breath by the time I reach the shoreline where I could make a couple of casts. I had the broken-tail minnow already on so I started casting. On my first cast I land a 2 1/2 lb bass. With no net, string or way to contain the fish, I cut a reed down and threaded it through the bass's gills and laid him in the shallow water's edge. I repeated this three more time before the mosquitos and the nights abyss had swallowed my whole. One of the bass weighed about 4-5 pounds and I was tickled to have four bass in less than an hour. So I drag the four fish back to the motel and it is already dark when I enter the motel and the check-in lady, knowing that I din't catch anything says "Whadya get honey?" When I showed her the stringer of fish on the reeds, she backed away like she was scared but finally took the fish and as I recall she didn't cook them for us but she did take them.

Shortly after that trip, my wife, son and I moved back to New Orleans and I told my new neighbor of my trip to Augusta because he had a brother who lived there. A few months later my neighbors brother sends him a newspaper article about the waterways I fished and how they were recently discovered to have numberous largemouth bass.

Well, I told you it wouldn't be that exciting but we sure had fun. VBG

I look forward to hearing YOUR ROAD STORY.
JoeyA
 
Thanks Joey, but I had no idea you could play Pinball for money in the USA! Forget Pool, where do you find these magical machines?
 
Not many left.

AuntyDan said:
Thanks Joey, but I had no idea you could play Pinball for money in the USA! Forget Pool, where do you find these magical machines?

Not many of um left, AuntyDan but if you make a trip to Jackson, Miss. and tip on over to the aforementioned, Bobby Headrick's, pool hall you will find a 6 card dime machine. Great story, Joey.......
 
I also did not you could play pinball for money. Maybe I am just too young:D :D
 
Pugh said:
I also did not you could play pinball for money. Maybe I am just too young:D :D

The 25 hole gambling pinball machines were prevalent around the bars and 'sweet shops' of Louisiana and Mississippi. By depositing more money (.05) you could run the payoff odds UP. If I remember correctly, 1200 games was the max when I was young. The number 16 was in the middle of the board and hardest to fall into. You could get EXTRA BALLS by depositing Extra Money and a 'Magic Screen.' I liked the machines with the OK Magic Screen.
I was a pinball wizard and the palms of my hands were were so calloused, that I used to bet people that I could grind a cigarette out on them with no pain (and I did). Twenty years after I played my last pinball game, I could still stick needles or put out cigarettes on the palms of my hands.
Thanks for the story and memories, Joey....
Doug
( I'm afraid that no longer can remember the number lines...was it
9-1-2-11-15
6-7-13-16-21
4-8-14-23-24
5-17-20-?-?
?-?-?-?-?
man, I'm getting senile)

Edited to add: http://rwatts.cdyn.com/Machines/SilverSails.html AND
http://members.aol.com/rusjensen/multiple.htm



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Those payout pinball and then later, the poker machines, were the reason that a lot of poolrooms thrived in the south and the reason that a lot of them closed after they were made illegal. I knew several places in Ga. and SC that had 4 or 5 machines and they made the difference. Some owners retired rich off those things in ten years or so. A few pool players teamed up with folks who could cheat the machines and did real well. I am sure that you have seen documentaries about slot machine cheaters in Vegas. Well they had them in the south for sure. Security was not so good and when you got caught you could usually pay out of it. And then you had just a very very scarce few who could beat the bingo-type pinball machines dead on the square without cheating if the tilt was set up high and the odds would increase, in other words, if it was loose. The main thing was the tilt. You had to be able to really give it a good forward hit and pull back on the machine to keep that tilt pendulem from swinging and making contact with that metal ring and tilting out the whole game. I knew guys with big callouses on their hands from constantly playing. They could work that ball up one row then up another row sometimes. Awesome........
 
Smorgass Bored said:
The 25 hole gambling pinball machines were prevalent around the bars and 'sweet shops' of Louisiana and Mississippi. By depositing more money (.05) you could run the payoff odds UP. If I remember correctly, 1200 games was the max when I was young. The number 16 was in the middle of the board and hardest to fall into. You could get EXTRA BALLS by depositing Extra Money and a 'Magic Screen.' I liked the machines with the OK Magic Screen.
I was a pinball wizard and the palms of my hands were were so calloused, that I used to bet people that I could grind a cigarette out on them with no pain (and I did). Twenty years after I played my last pinball game, I could still stick needles or put out cigarettes on the palms of my hands.
Thanks for the story and memories, Joey....
Doug
( I'm afraid that no longer can remember the number lines...was it
9-1-2-11-15
6-7-13-16-21
4-8-14-23-24
5-17-20-?-?
?-?-?-?-?
man, I'm getting senile)


That's close Smorg. The 6 card machines which had 25 holes were in the lines of:
1-7
8-13
14-18
19-22
23-25. If you remember, the first 3 cards came with just one coin but the 4th-6th higher paying cards were random as to whether they would light or not. Each card, 4-6 had a little click that would let you know if that card was going to light on the next coin. Made you think you had an edge.

I am with you though. The sliding one card machine was the nuts.
 
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Some pay games up north...

Way back when social clubs were plentiful in New England they had pay pinball machines that looked like pinball but played more like slots...not much flipper action...don't remember much about them because I was young...but you shot a metal ball around and they landed in holes and you could win cash...

Social clubs could get around the gambling laws because they were not open to the public...I remember watching some serious money change hands at Babout (sp?) in the Greek social clubs...

Anyone up there familiar with these prehistoric games??...
 
Smorgass Bored said:
...I was a pinball wizard and the palms of my hands were were so calloused, that I used to bet people that I could grind a cigarette out on them with no pain

Heh. When I was at college I became addicted to Pinball, but the only thing you could win was replays. So I'd cruise waiting for the high-scores to reset automatically as they did every few weeks, because I knew I could beat the default factory high score standing on my head. Then the trick was to beat it by just enough to get the replay, then deliberately lose so the high score would only increment a little more. In 30 minutes I could pile up a dozen free games then sell them to someone waiting to play for beer money.

It got so bad I had the palm blister problem too. My solution was to buy a pair of football goalie's gloves, which have big rubber pads in the palms, and cut the fingers off them. I looked like a total prat of course, so no change there.

My favorite machine for this was Terminator 2, man I owned that puppy.
 
maybe that's how I got started gambling

I grew up around San Francisco's Chinatown...when I first discovered these gambling type pinball machines, I must have been about 12 or 13.....As I recall, they had signs on them saying you had to be 18 to play....However, it wasn't long before some jold man in an alley who had about 6 of these pinball machines would let me put my dimes and quarters in and play...man, you talk about addicted....I was hooked for the next 30 years....some of the machines were PIXIES, TRIPLE PLAY, MONACO and some others I can't remember now...but they all had the same requirement ... you had to line up 3, 4, or 5 numbers in a row on the "bingo" cards to win.....many years later, I found some other variations in Reno, Nevada casinos with the "OK" feature and although it was a nickel to play, you could feed just about as many nickels as you wanted into one game, just to raise the odds for payout, and get bonus features and numbers......those machines are very rare to find anymore...even Reno doesn't have them now...but a few years ago, I was over in Hawaii and found a bunch at Hawaiian Brian's place....and there were some pinball addicts dumping coin after coin into the machines...(I think they were quarters then)....I kinda miss playing them now....wish they were still around....
 
Yeah - I remember those machines too. I had a room up in Anchorage, Alaska back in 1969 and did REAL well off of three machines (2 at 5 cents and 1 at 10 cents). Most of the were "OK' as I recall - and you could pump up the odds way high - and the screen would rotate.

They became illegal in 1970 and I heard they sent most of them oversea. I had also seen a few in Hawaiian Brians back around mid 1980's.

Never played them much but saw a couple of real good players that could make "em sing!

Mark Griffin
 
just a grind

I had some real entertaining nights here and there but my "road stories" when I had to make money at pool were just a grind. Me and my partner would head into a place about five minutes apart and if there wasn't any small action going on we would start it between ourselves to suck others into it. Made a living like that and put parts on the race cars without any real risk but it wasn't very exciting. We were both wild as rabbits back then and figured an escort to the door by a group of unhappy campers about half the time just went with the territory.

I can tell the story of a funny fishing trip from that time however. Hugh and I(Hu) ran together a bit, much to the confusion of folks meeting us for the first time. Two "Hugh's" were definitely too many. Anyway, I had an aluminum canoe and a love of night fishing for bigmouth bass out of it. Hugh wanted to try it so we loaded the canoe on the roof rack of a little Toyota car I had back then and headed to Old River up in Point Coupe Parish.

Arriving there before dark is where the plan started getting derailed a bit. Hopkins Landing was, aside from being a boat landing, a country honky-tonk on the weekend . . . and it had a pool table or two. We headed there for a beer or three and to await full darkness. A guy came up wanting to play pool for a few dollars and Hugh went to play. He wasn't gone but thirty minutes or so before he came back, the guy had cleaned him out and he wanted me to get his money back for him. I did in short order and made a pretty nice score off of the stranger before he pulled up.

Now I have a pocket full of somebody else's cash to party on after returning Hugh's money to him so fishing went out the window and we started hitting the bars along river road and Highway 1 and found ourselves well in the bag in the wee hours. We had split up for a little while entertaining young ladies above Simmsport somewhere. When I looked around the bar for Hugh, I could find his girl, but couldn't find him anywhere inside or out. I decided he must have gotten bored and be ambling down river road towards home. It was a bit cold for how we were dressed but a fine breezy night otherwise.

Those that live in Louisiana or have seen Easy Rider might remember river road has a few curves, as in see your own tail lights in front of you sometimes. I am bending the curves pretty tight about sixty or so when Hugh comes sliding down the windshield! Seems he got sleepy and decided that under the canoe was the best place to get some rest. He was wide awake and sober by the time I got the car stopped, with him still on the hood by some small miracle.

A fun night to remember but I never wet a line. Hugh never did get around to bass fishing with me at night either.

Hu


JoeyA said:
This thread has been inspired by Linda Carter, the Queen, aka rackmsuckr.
Her thread is GREAT and the stories have been fun.
JoeyA
 
And A MOON PIE

There was a little food joint across Canal Street (the main street of New Orleans) from my high school called The Gumbo House. It was close to the Frostop. These gambling pinball machines had a big chrome lock on the left side of the large upright backboard and wheels with the number of games you've won just inside the lock. We had figured out how to turn and twist the lock without unlocking it and completely remove the lock from the pinball machine.
Once removed, we took a 10" straight piece of cut up metal coathanger and while one of us 'played' the pinball, the other two of us would stand next to it and one of us would insert the piece of wire inside the wheel of numbers. By stabbing in the wheel, we could run up the number of Wins shown through the front glass of the machine. They paid off a a nickel a game and each day we would cash in for about $5-$6 and split it. We could have gotten more, but we kept this up for THREE YEARS. The owner would often call TAC Amusement Co. and a repairman would come out and 'unlock' the machine with his key and after an hour or so of intense searching, he would declare the machine OK. Five or six dollars EVERY day was living in high cotton for high school kids back in 1959-'60-'61 & '62..
Doug
( gas was about .25 gal., cigarettes were .25 pack and you could eat like a king at the Frostop for $1) (two Lotta Burgers,fries and a milkshake and some rock 'n roll on the jukebox...... YEEHAAAAAAA !)
 
Thanks, Joey

Thanks for the story, Joey, I enjoyed reading it. It made me think of a couple of trips I took in my youth (45 years ago!!!) Your story encourages me to put my thoughts together and tell a tale or two.
 
Small World Joey

Bobby is a very good friend of mine. I learned to play pool, poker, and a little dominoes at Bobby's. This is no lie, from Sep 1996 until Jun 2000, I was in his poolhall almost everyday open til close. Met some really good friends in that place. Even met $Bill there once. Next time you talk to him tell him Ben said Hello
 
Excitement on the road - great memories, but...

ShootingArts said:
IMade a living like that and put parts on the race cars without any real risk but it wasn't very exciting.
Yeah, I understand that trying to make it on the road can be a real grind without the glamour and excitement some associate with such ventures. But as I think back about the 3-4 pool hustling road trips I experienced, every time there was any excitement, it was always a situation where I was scared s#@*less. I'm trying to put together one of these stories involving a scene like something you'd see in a movie with me having to duck down in a restaurant booth to avoid being seen by some really bad guys cruising the streets looking for us.
 
I think I've heard of you Joey

Bobby used to tell me about a friend of his that could bump the pinball machine and make the ball go from the bottom to the top without causing it to tilt. Sound like you?
 
My first road hustle

My first official road trip was when I was 14, but this one at 15 was my first "hussle".
Two guys from my local pool room and I went on a road trip to a small town pool room 100 mile from our home room.
On the ride up I hatched a plan (funny a 15 year old kid is laying the plans for the caper while the two adults think it sounds reasonable) Now this plan was so laughably unoriginal that I am embarassed to retell it. The plan was to get the front table and toss around fifties while playing like Ray Charles after having not picked up a cue in six months.
Two questions;
1.where were my parents??
2.how did I make it this far in life without a broken nose...or thumb??
We get the front table (it was actually pretty cool, the table was surrounded by high back chairs creating a boxing ring type effect) and start our show. Immediately this guy comes over and asks to play the winner (I wish I could find this guy and give him his money back...o.k maybe not)
Right away I'm playing like three balls better (subtle eh? but like I said no broken nose) At the time I'm so young, dumb, and short stacked that I beat the guy like 7-0 (no use risking it eh?-looking back I see why this was my first and last hustle)
Next thing I know the counter guy calls me up to the front. He says there's a guy on the way up to play me (town champ). I say "sure" (when your fifteen you think you can beat anybody in the world just by thinking it's so).
The chairs around the ring start filling in (my little heart's starting to pound pretty good now). The town champ walks through the doors with a haze of smoke around him and the Bon Jovi song "Dead or Alive" playing in the background (o.k. maybe not:> , but I still remember him walking in with the black leather coat and cig.)
Long story longer....I'm running this guy over (don't say it, I'll say it for you-how bad had he must of played?).
In the second set (now every seat is full in the ring) I get down to break the balls. I think to myself "I'm gonna crush this one!" I hit the break and the cue ball pops straight up in the air and crashes into the table light. The cue ball smashes the bulb into like a bazillion pieces that scatter all over the table (I still remeber the OOh! from the croud-corny but memorable) The counter guy picks up the debri and I run out (at least that's what I'm going with now).
I won like $100 off the town champ, it might as well been a million $ to a 15 year old suburban kid.
I think the two guys I went with drove home and I just floated home!
muck
 
shootings

Bill,
Some of the places I played in were almost as dangerous when folks weren't after you. Accidental discharge of firearms was common. Either nitwits playing with them or dropping them. A handful of gunshots while I was at my favorite hall I played in and about half were accidental. Fairly typical of most places. Deliberate shootings and cuttings usually waited until you were in the parking lot. That made leaving a well planned operation. One heads in the general direction of the can, one towards the bar, and before anyone realized it most of the time, we were both gone.

It was interesting at times and parking facing the highway and watching your six or having a friend with you to watch it was part of the routine. Some of my favorite partners were not good for anything but covering my back but that was plenty! I often put a twenty in my shirt pocket to pay for the half a house stick I toted out the door a bunch of times when I was alone too.

Living hard and dying young was pretty much expected of me. Had I known I was going to live this long I might not have racked up the hard miles in quite such a hurry. :D :rolleyes: :D


A quick edit: I agree most of these stories are much more fun hearing or reliving than they were living!

Hu




BillPorter said:
Yeah, I understand that trying to make it on the road can be a real grind without the glamour and excitement some associate with such ventures. But as I think back about the 3-4 pool hustling road trips I experienced, every time there was any excitement, it was always a situation where I was scared s#@*less. I'm trying to put together one of these stories involving a scene like something you'd see in a movie with me having to duck down in a restaurant booth to avoid being seen by some really bad guys cruising the streets looking for us.
 
AuntyDan said:
My favorite machine for this was Terminator 2, man I owned that puppy.

i remember that machine well, "fire at will" and we would scream out, "what did Will do?" i could play for hours on one dollar.

thanks for the memories
 
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