My Varney Nightmare

cincyman

Banned
Since this is about buying a cue as well i am posting this here sorry.

I hesitate to post this, and only am at the advice of about 7 others i have shared this story with.

I have been MORE than patient and just cannot get a response and a FIRM date so i have resorted to this.

HERE GOES


I started a thread in June 07, and said i was looking for an ebony cuehttp://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=66655.

Varney sent me a pm and said he could make me what i wanted which was an ebony sneaky with an IVORY joint 57 1/2 inches for 450. I told him that was more than i wanted to spend and didnt really want to wait as i had a child coming soon and was going to quit playing after she was born then anyway. He then replied back that he would do it for 400 and already had a blank ready someone cancelled and instead of 90 days like normal it would only be 60 days

I said cool that sounds good whats next. He said the sooner you paypal me the sooner i can get it done. So i sent him the money that day. A few days later i checked back and gave him all my specs and he replied back and said, no problem but you do know i dont use REAL IVORY on my cues . I said fine because the price seemed reasonable anyway and i was excited to try out the cue.

Since june 29th he has promised me 8 diferent delivery times. I have pm'd him about thosands of times and he wouldnt answer then i would get from him " its all down hill from here". First it was sorry its late you will have it by October, then For sure by december. I told him i wanted to use it at the derby and he said no problem last week of December . Then he said late January, then he said March. Then i didn;t hear from him for awhile and started posting about here in some threads and he told me that wont get my cue any faster lol. This is the last exchange on June 4th..................

MY PM SENT TO HIM ON MAY 10TH

Mr. Varney,
Give me a break, i have asked you 6 times for a date and can n ot get one. I just talked to cajunbarboxplayer and he told me he ORDERED his cue in December and he has got it already. I understand if he is your buddy thats cool but , I ordered mine in JUNE and you said it would only be 60 days (yes 60) because you had a blank done already. Well it is May and i have had no communication since FEB. This is unexceptable. I have not started a thread and have only posted my experience in them about the communication which you obviously ignore. I told you before i order tons of cues from prolific makers and this is an utter disgrace on your end. If you ****ed up just tell me. If not i expect an answer and a FIRM date of delivery. I dont want it rushed and am trying not to be a dick but its ridiculous

KV RESPONDSKV>>>>>

I apologize sir. I will indeed have yours complete....unrushed....by the end of the month.
KV

ME AGAIN>>>>>>>>>>>

Well the end of May has come and gone ( whoooooooosh) any idea on when the next estimated time of arrival will be? Do i owe you anymore money? Thanks for keeping me updated

KV RESPONDS AGAIN>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yours is very near complete....I just have 5-6 more that are ahead of you. You know how upset people get when they think I'm working out of line.
Thanks
KV



That is the where i stand now NO CUE and havent really said a word. I hear these people on here complain about 9 months when he told then 90 days well how do you like this..............

With that said i have a few questions for KV i demand an answer for. As many of my friends here know i have the good fortune to be married to a lawyer and she hates pool but is not happy about this and thinks i should pursue legal action.

I have told her of the close knit community here and that it would work out,, well that was 6 months ago

Now for my questions to KV

How on earth to you think this is exceptable?

Why would you tell me 60 days and then it be almost a YEAR and i still have no cue?

How can at least 10 people on here who ordered a cue after me get theirs already and why?

What is the f$%^%ing date i am getting my cue?

Did you mess it up? and if you did why did you not tell me it would be longer?

Do you think i am out of line by being upset? because you act like you do in the forums


If anyone else has any other questions please feel free to ask, I really want to hear the response.

And if any of his BUDDIES chime in i might just go APES$$T becasue i am not in the mood to be told "i am a hater" or " give the guy a break" It is way past that point for me

Sorry its so long i am very angry and thought everyone should know.
__________________
<--- doesn't care about avatars, people coming or going on the forums, or others beliefs on religion or politics.


since 2001
 
Last edited:
cincyman said:
Since this is about buying a cue as well i am posting this here sorry.

I hesitate to post this, and only am at the advice of about 7 others i have shared this story with.

I have been MORE than patient and just cannot get a response and a FIRM date so i have resorted to this.

HERE GOES


I started a thread in June 07, and said i was looking for an ebony cuehttp://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=66655.

Varney sent me a pm and said he could make me what i wanted which was an ebony sneaky with an IVORY joint 57 1/2 inches for 450. I told him that was more than i wanted to spend and didnt really want to wait as i had a child coming soon and was going to quit playing after she was born then anyway. He then replied back that he would do it for 400 and already had a blank ready someone cancelled and instead of 90 days like normal it would only be 60 days

I said cool that sounds good whats next. He said the sooner you paypal me the sooner i can get it done. So i sent him the money that day. A few days later i checked back and gave him all my specs and he replied back and said, no problem but you do know i dont use REAL IVORY on my cues . I said fine because the price seemed reasonable anyway and i was excited to try out the cue.

Since june 29th he has promised me 8 diferent delivery times. I have pm'd him about thosands of times and he wouldnt answer then i would get from him " its all down hill from here". First it was sorry its late you will have it by October, then For sure by december. I told him i wanted to use it at the derby and he said no problem last week of December . Then he said late January, then he said March. Then i didn;t hear from him for awhile and started posting about here in some threads and he told me that wont get my cue any faster lol. This is the last exchange on June 4th..................

MY PM SENT TO HIM ON JUNE 4TH

Mr. Varney,
Give me a break, i have asked you 6 times for a date and can n ot get one. I just talked to cajunbarboxplayer and he told me he ORDERED his cue in December and he has got it already. I understand if he is your buddy thats cool but , I ordered mine in JUNE and you said it would only be 60 days (yes 60) because you had a blank done already. Well it is May and i have had no communication since FEB. This is unexceptable. I have not started a thread and have only posted my experience in them about the communication which you obviously ignore. I told you before i order tons of cues from prolific makers and this is an utter disgrace on your end. If you ****ed up just tell me. If not i expect an answer and a FIRM date of delivery. I dont want it rushed and am trying not to be a dick but its ridiculous

KV RESPONDSKV>>>>>

I apologize sir. I will indeed have yours complete....unrushed....by the end of the month.
KV

ME AGAIN>>>>>>>>>>>

Well the end of May has come and gone ( whoooooooosh) any idea on when the next estimated time of arrival will be? Do i owe you anymore money? Thanks for keeping me updated

KV RESPONDS AGAIN>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yours is very near complete....I just have 5-6 more that are ahead of you. You know how upset people get when they think I'm working out of line.
Thanks
KV



That is the where i stand now NO CUE and havent really said a word. I hear these people on here complain about 9 months when he told then 90 days well how do you like this..............

With that said i have a few questions for KV i demand an answer for. As many of my friends here know i have the good fortune to be married to a lawyer and she hates pool but is not happy about this and thinks i should pursue legal action.

I have told her of the close knit community here and that it would work out,, well that was 6 months ago

Now for my questions to KV

How on earth to you think this is exceptable?

Why would you tell me 60 days and then it be almost a YEAR and i still have no cue?

How can at least 10 people on here who ordered a cue after me get theirs already and why?

What is the f$%^%ing date i am getting my cue?

Did you mess it up? and if you did why did you not tell me it would be longer?

Do you think i am out of line by being upset? because you act like you do in the forums


If anyone else has any other questions please feel free to ask, I really want to hear the response.

And if any of his BUDDIES chime in i might just go APES$$T becasue i am not in the mood to be told "i am a hater" or " give the guy a break" It is way past that point for me

Sorry its so long i am very angry and thought everyone should know.
__________________
<--- doesn't care about avatars, people coming or going on the forums, or others beliefs on religion or politics.


since 2001


Well, If all you guys didn't want a Varney so bad his waiting list wouldn't be around the block. :grin: I'm just messin with ya..

Crazy how so many people end up saying the same thing while waiting on a cue from him. I mean no offense either way. Just think it's wild.
 
I own a trucking company. Let me tell you. The phone calls I get from pissed customers if one of my trucks is 2 hours late.
 
I am beginning to think the slogan "Play with a Varney or get beat by one" is about to change to "Pay for a Varney and just get beat."

Seriously. If your story is totally on the up and up, I would be demanding my money back with interest for non-performance. You might even see if you can get it heard in Judge Judy's court. She would read him the riot act!!!

I really appreciate the cuemakers that can and do deliver when they say they will or close there-abouts. Thanks for re-confirming this same story that I have heard too many times about this cuemaker. Best of luck.
 
Last edited:
our_auctionguy said:
I am beginning to think the slogan "Play with a Varney or get beat by one" is about to change to "Pay for a Varney and just get beat."
Oh wow. Thats rough. LOL
 
cincyman said:
Since this is about buying a cue as well i am posting this here sorry.

I hesitate to post this, and only am at the advice of about 7 others i have shared this story with.

I have been MORE than patient and just cannot get a response and a FIRM date so i have resorted to this.

HERE GOES


I started a thread in June 07, and said i was looking for an ebony cuehttp://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=66655.

Varney sent me a pm and said he could make me what i wanted which was an ebony sneaky with an IVORY joint 57 1/2 inches for 450. I told him that was more than i wanted to spend and didnt really want to wait as i had a child coming soon and was going to quit playing after she was born then anyway. He then replied back that he would do it for 400 and already had a blank ready someone cancelled and instead of 90 days like normal it would only be 60 days

I said cool that sounds good whats next. He said the sooner you paypal me the sooner i can get it done. So i sent him the money that day. A few days later i checked back and gave him all my specs and he replied back and said, no problem but you do know i dont use REAL IVORY on my cues . I said fine because the price seemed reasonable anyway and i was excited to try out the cue.

Since june 29th he has promised me 8 diferent delivery times. I have pm'd him about thosands of times and he wouldnt answer then i would get from him " its all down hill from here". First it was sorry its late you will have it by October, then For sure by december. I told him i wanted to use it at the derby and he said no problem last week of December . Then he said late January, then he said March. Then i didn;t hear from him for awhile and started posting about here in some threads and he told me that wont get my cue any faster lol. This is the last exchange on June 4th..................

MY PM SENT TO HIM ON JUNE 4TH

Mr. Varney,
Give me a break, i have asked you 6 times for a date and can n ot get one. I just talked to cajunbarboxplayer and he told me he ORDERED his cue in December and he has got it already. I understand if he is your buddy thats cool but , I ordered mine in JUNE and you said it would only be 60 days (yes 60) because you had a blank done already. Well it is May and i have had no communication since FEB. This is unexceptable. I have not started a thread and have only posted my experience in them about the communication which you obviously ignore. I told you before i order tons of cues from prolific makers and this is an utter disgrace on your end. If you ****ed up just tell me. If not i expect an answer and a FIRM date of delivery. I dont want it rushed and am trying not to be a dick but its ridiculous

KV RESPONDSKV>>>>>

I apologize sir. I will indeed have yours complete....unrushed....by the end of the month.
KV

ME AGAIN>>>>>>>>>>>

Well the end of May has come and gone ( whoooooooosh) any idea on when the next estimated time of arrival will be? Do i owe you anymore money? Thanks for keeping me updated

KV RESPONDS AGAIN>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yours is very near complete....I just have 5-6 more that are ahead of you. You know how upset people get when they think I'm working out of line.
Thanks
KV



That is the where i stand now NO CUE and havent really said a word. I hear these people on here complain about 9 months when he told then 90 days well how do you like this..............

With that said i have a few questions for KV i demand an answer for. As many of my friends here know i have the good fortune to be married to a lawyer and she hates pool but is not happy about this and thinks i should pursue legal action.

I have told her of the close knit community here and that it would work out,, well that was 6 months ago

Now for my questions to KV

How on earth to you think this is exceptable?

Why would you tell me 60 days and then it be almost a YEAR and i still have no cue?

How can at least 10 people on here who ordered a cue after me get theirs already and why?

What is the f$%^%ing date i am getting my cue?

Did you mess it up? and if you did why did you not tell me it would be longer?

Do you think i am out of line by being upset? because you act like you do in the forums


If anyone else has any other questions please feel free to ask, I really want to hear the response.

And if any of his BUDDIES chime in i might just go APES$$T becasue i am not in the mood to be told "i am a hater" or " give the guy a break" It is way past that point for me

Sorry its so long i am very angry and thought everyone should know.
__________________
<--- doesn't care about avatars, people coming or going on the forums, or others beliefs on religion or politics.


since 2001
That really sucks. To be completely honest with you this horror story is most definately not the first I have heard on AZ. Mr. Varney I think your cue are great and I have played with some, I have thought about buying a Varney J/B from the forum many times but I would buy second hand off the forum before I would order one. Sorry to hear you are having so much trouble and I hope for your sake everything turns out ok.

Thanks, John
 
dave sutton said:
i feel bad for you so dont take this the wrong way but did you have to post it in every section???

I maybe wrong, but I think Cincy is pissed off, and trying to get the word out.... :shrug:
 
snowmon34 said:
I maybe wrong, but I think Cincy is pissed off, and trying to get the word out.... :shrug:
BINGO WE HAVE A WINNER. :thumbup: I want as many people as possible to see this and it is related to every section i posted it in.
 
cincyman said:
BINGO WE HAVE A WINNER. :thumbup: I want as many people as possible to see this and it is related to every section i posted it in.


What a guess!!! What do I win... What do I win???? :happydance:

All joking aside .....Cincy I hope K.V. offers you a refund....thats the least he could do at this point.....
 
If i told a maker i specifically wanted an ebony sneaky with an IVORY joint. And he accepted that, quoted me a price, AND took my money, just to tell me after wards, after he had my money, that he doesnt use IVORY in his cues. That would be the end of the deal right there, and i would want my money back.
Not even mentioning the ridiculously long wait he's putting you through. For him to wait til after he has your money to tell you about the ivory is very unacceptable.
 
joeboxer said:
If i told a maker i specifically wanted an ebony sneaky with an IVORY joint. And he accepted that, quoted me a price, AND took my money, just to tell me after wards, after he had my money, that he doesnt use IVORY in his cues. That would be the end of the deal right there, and i would want my money back.
Not even mentioning the ridiculously long wait he's putting you through. For him to wait til after he has your money to tell you about the ivory is very unacceptable.
i understand but that just shows how easy going i have been, i just wanted a cue. I asked for ivory and then after i paid i reiterated to him what i was getting then i was told about that,, BUT to be honest that is the single last thing i am worried about right now:angry: I want answers and from what the FIRM said i am due the cue and my money but we will see.
 
snowmon34 said:
What a guess!!! What do I win... What do I win???? :happydance:

All joking aside .....Cincy I hope K.V. offers you a refund....thats the least he could do at this point.....
Your money back and the stick.

Dean:D
 
cincyman said:
i understand but that just shows how easy going i have been, i just wanted a cue. I asked for ivory and then after i paid i reiterated to him what i was getting then i was told about that,, BUT to be honest that is the single last thing i am worried about right now:angry: I want answers and from what the FIRM said i am due the cue and my money but we will see.


Oh yeah, i completely understand what you are saying. But that just showed his dishonesty from the beginning and that would have put up a red flag for me from the get go.
I hope you get the answers youre looking for.
And you have FAR more patience than i would have.
 
maybe it's time for you to set a deadline. either a cue or a refund in X amount of days or you will take legal action. sounds like you have put up with this long enough.
 
On cases like this

Im sure that this is not the first one I read about Mr. KV's service.

I totally agree that Mr. KV is a great cumaker but cases like this is BAD for business dont you think?

A cuemaker has a legitimate excuse for being late on a project ON THE OTHER HAND, a number of late project could mean something else.

Perhaps, its time to hire an assistant to help. JMO


:bow-down:
 
Last edited:
hackerda said:
Your money back and the stick.

Dean:D
Thats what a few law friends tell me i WILL get if i pursue it, I hate talking like that because i make fun of people who say crap like that but i am fed up and very :angry: if you get my drift
 
I feel for ya my friend. I sent 250 bucks to him in December and was told it would be within 60 to 90 days. I wont even get into the story......
 
c and c said:
I feel for ya my friend. I sent 250 bucks to him in December and was told it would be within 60 to 90 days. I wont even get into the story......
You should start a thread!!! Its not like its gonna hurt the chances of you not getting your cue in time:eek:
 
Back
Top