My view on how low Pro payouts are..

rackmsuckr said:
Russ, thanks for the compliment. I try to be fair. But sometimes being fair sees both sides, and whatever is in the middle (gray!)

To be honest, Mike gripes about the pay conditions of tournaments too. Sometimes the promoters take some of the prize money.

He is back to playing weekly $5 tournaments and making $50 to $100 a night...and that's if he wins. He is pitted against all the Filipinos here, as well as a lot of other good players, most times in a race to one! It's a hard struggle out there. It's a good thing we keep our finances separate, lol. At least his needs are small and his money goes to paying his bills, like insurance, cigs, gas, and he helps me with the house payment and buys most of the food. We had this arrangement 15 years ago when we moved in together and it didn't change when we got married. It seems to work.

While he makes drastically less than I do, he has always done what he can to 'provide' for me. He pays my way into tournaments and buys me drinks and food while we are there. I have him on a forced savings plan when he wins bigger tournaments. :p

He has seen JD, Timmy, and a plethora of other good players start dealing poker. He even went to school for it, but didn't finish. Todd got into real estate. Some guys are selling cars. It is not a great environment out there for the pool player.

I do see both sides of the fence, because our marriage is composed of both. What I see is that you are fed up with whiners who seem to have made their own lot in life, but that can happen in any profession. :)

Hey Linda,

Tell Mike I'll service his account whenever I get back over to that side of the country. Not for a huge amount, but enough to compensate him for showing me a few things and giving me a no bull assessment.

Russ
 
Russ Chewning said:
All I have been trying to say is those that play pool for a living make a choice. I am not saying it is a bad or good choice, but it is a choice. I just have an issue with certain players who complain about the lack of money in pool.

Well, you apparently are not willing to admit it now, but there have been strong implications about your feelings toward that choice in your previous posts. JMHO.

What I don't understand is how and where someone can acquire the gall to appoint themselves as the all-knowing, all-seeing and all-powerful arbitrator of "Who is Allowed to Complain" and "Who is Not".

Russ Chewning said:
I won't mention names, but a certain pro player committed a crime and went to prison for a few years. Then, he came out of prison and had a wife and a child to take care of. And complained to anyone who would listen about the different reasons pool players did not make enough money.

Wow. Thanks to your spot-on description, mentioning names is not necessary, now is it? Chalk up another shot to the head of a pro pool player.

Like it or not, it is the individual's right to bemoan the conditions under which he exists, period. One may, of course, in their own mind set up some sort of self-righteous (dare I say, militaristic?) system of rules, whereby those who wish to improve their lot might be silenced, insulted and shunned, but this says far more about the maker of these rules than those who would be oppressed by them. Realize that your own objectivity may be clouded, because those who have been through brainwashing seldom are able to gauge its effects. The goal of the military is to eliminate individuality and judgement, causing the trainee to see things in black and white, and to follow orders. This makes it easier to control the trainee, easier to ask him to do uncomfortable things. The hard part is turning this thing off when you are done using it.

"Complaining" (your term - there are less judgemental words to describe it, BTW) is more often than not a good thing. Please realize that the only reason anyone has anything worth having today is because someone in the past was unsatisfied with the way things were. We are all standing on the shoulders of those who have gone before. Those who dared propose change and improvement have always fought an uphill battle, even though this country was founded by people who wanted to make things better. Funny how some things never change, isn't it?

The idea that someone has no right to "complain" unless they have a solution to the problem is another ludicrous concept. (What? More unilateral rules?) Of course you learned rationale such as this in the military. Heaven forbid that a "complainer" might stimulate some constructive idea for positive change in the reserved, but more creative soldier. Is it collaboration or is it conspiracy? Can't have that sort of thing going on in This Man's Army, now, can we?

Russ Chewning said:
I'm talking about pros who are vocal about how little money there is in pool. We have both met them, Linda. And I just don't have the patience for it.

Why are you so severely affected by this anyway? Surely you don't labor under the conceit that the pro pool players are "complaining" to you. Patience is generally something that comes with experience, although with the aid of an open, objective, analytical mind, the process might be shortened. Same for tolerance.

Russ Chewning said:
I truly do wish I could empathize with other people more.

Just follow your simple blueprint for being a professional pool player—I'm sure that all you need is a bit of practice.

Russ Chewning said:
I do tend towards the analytical, but don't feel unhappy about my life, despite what some on here believe.

People with black/white viewpoints are seldom as analytical as they believe themselves to be. Don't confuse analytical with opinionated.

Russ Chewning said:
I just happen to know what I believe to be right and wrong.

How about we change that to something with a little more of an "analytical" feel? How about, oh... maybe, "I just happen to believe what I believe to be right and wrong."

Russ Chewning said:
Some of my views on that subject are quite controversial. I accept that.

This is something that sociopaths often say, just thought you'd like to know.

Russ Chewning said:
I also accept the fact that people find American Idol entertaining, not for the good singers, but for getting to hear non talented people get lambasted. I do not understand why people find seeing someone get insulted after trying their best entertaining, but they do. I find seeing how Laffy Taffy candy is made by watching a Discovery Channel show entertaining. I do acknowledge that the vast majority of things I find entertaining others do not, and vice versa.

First of all, thanks for the insight regarding the "American Idol" program. I didn't really know much about it.

Kudos are also in order for your taste in educational cable programming. None of that drivel intended for the unwashed masses, nosiree. My six year-old also enjoys these programs.

The real plum here, the thing that strips off the last bit of veneer, is this priceless jewel:

Russ Chewning said:
I do not understand why people find seeing someone get insulted after trying their best entertaining, but they do.

The "someones" who are getting "insulted after trying their best" are professional pool players. The person insulting them is you. I mention this with the hope that you will eventually come to understand how this might look to someone else. But we appear to agree on one thing—I don't find it entertaining either.

Russ Chewning said:
I love pool for the challenge of executing every shot perfectly. Yes, I do believe I would have been a champion if I wished to give up the chance at a different life when I were younger. To me, the drama generally associated with the emotions of being in a pressure situation were not that big a deal. After a few months of playing against good players, I realized that just removing the emotion from the game and just working on making a fundamentally correct stroke every time was the way to go. From the moment I made that decision, I saw it was just a matter of practice. After that, I just adopted an attitude of "Just give me one shot. The rest is completely on me. I just so happened to meet my future wife the next month. I found the choice between being a champion pool player and raising a family in comfort to be an easy one.

Holy mackerel. You make it sound as if they'll be giving monkeys librium and training them to play pro level pool next year. Congratulations are once again in order for being such an intelligent, forward-thinking, rational, and all-around perfect individual - a decision maker non-pariel. Not only did you handily devalue the natural ability of the best players, I suspect that you have made many of the readers of this forum feel appropriately inferior with the tone and content of your resumé. You did however, neglect to mention how much profit you made on the sale of your last house. That's typically the follow-up to the yearly salary disclosure.
 
You know what Russ? I don't see that many pros complaining or whining about how much pool pays. What I see is alot of the pros *WISHING* that it payed more. There is nothing wrong with a dream. Some of them have tried to make it come true, but to no avail.

And let me explain something to you about your so-called "wealth". I know people who make more in a WEEK than you do in a year. And there people who make more in a DAY than you make in a year! There are even people who make more in an HOUR than you do in a year! You are not as wealthy as you think!

And it's not how much you make, it's how much you can spend. OOOOH, you have your own pool table!!!! OMG SO COOL! :rolleyes:

Even if you can spend alot of money, it does not buy happieness. Having a dream and living it is happiness. I see John Schmidt as a happy man. I see you as a egotistical man living in regret because of your long lost "form". Everybody "used to play alot better". Obviously pool means something to you because you post on this forum. If you can come to terms with the fact that you dont play as good as you used to, and you probably never played as good as you thought you did, your game might go up a bit. Sounds like your oversized ego could be holding you back.

Let's say that there's a forum out there for people who are uber-rich. Lets say that you happened to join it, and you came across a thread about how people who have YOUR JOB made such bad decissions, and that they could be making so much more money if they did this and that. You would chime in and tell them that you took your job because it was a goal of yours, and you are happy with your life.

That's exactly what John Schmidt said to you. He also kicked your ass in this thread, and exposed you. You are jealous of him, and you hate him because of his opinion of barboxes.

The sad thing is that if you were have "two solid years of practice", John would STILL be able to give you the 6-out and destroy you! LOL
 
cheesemouse said:
It's your can of worms....

If I'm not mistaking my tax dollars pay your paycheck while you sit in the green zone. I wouldn't mind so much if you were still in the military but it seems you are over there chasing the dollar on my dime....my apologies if I have made the wrong assumption here. We know what John does for a living, what is it you do again?

He's an AV guy.
He can hook up a VCR. Maybe even program one.:D
 
Russ Chewning said:
JESUS ****ING CHRIST!
Russ

First. I find this EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE!

Second. Your views on life are as if you have a coax up your a** feeding you Fox News 24/7.
Third. No one gives a rat's a** if a pool player complaining about his take-home bothers you.

Sometimes the world doesn't always feel fair, and the only way to get it off your chest is to bi*ch about it a little. Gimme a beer or two on the right night and I'll bi*ch about my job for a good long time. It doesn't mean anything the next day, and I've gotten it off my chest. All YOU are doing is complaining about complaining. You've got waaaayyyy too much time on your hands to be wasting my tax dollars. I'd much rather give it to some unwed mother with a couple of kids, who isn't such a pr**k.

And Russ. If you make $244k/yr, why is it I read in one of you posts that you still owe $109k on a $180k house?
 
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I was going to reply to Russ's drivel, but you've covered it quite well. Rep to you.

-djb

Slider said:
Well, you apparently are not willing to admit it now, but there have been strong implications about your feelings toward that choice in your previous posts. JMHO.

What I don't understand is how and where someone can acquire the gall to appoint themselves as the all-knowing, all-seeing and all-powerful arbitrator of "Who is Allowed to Complain" and "Who is Not".



Wow. Thanks to your spot-on description, mentioning names is not necessary, now is it? Chalk up another shot to the head of a pro pool player.

Like it or not, it is the individual's right to bemoan the conditions under which he exists, period. One may, of course, in their own mind set up some sort of self-righteous (dare I say, militaristic?) system of rules, whereby those who wish to improve their lot might be silenced, insulted and shunned, but this says far more about the maker of these rules than those who would be oppressed by them. Realize that your own objectivity may be clouded, because those who have been through brainwashing seldom are able to gauge its effects. The goal of the military is to eliminate individuality and judgement, causing the trainee to see things in black and white, and to follow orders. This makes it easier to control the trainee, easier to ask him to do uncomfortable things. The hard part is turning this thing off when you are done using it.

"Complaining" (your term - there are less judgemental words to describe it, BTW) is more often than not a good thing. Please realize that the only reason anyone has anything worth having today is because someone in the past was unsatisfied with the way things were. We are all standing on the shoulders of those who have gone before. Those who dared propose change and improvement have always fought an uphill battle, even though this country was founded by people who wanted to make things better. Funny how some things never change, isn't it?

The idea that someone has no right to "complain" unless they have a solution to the problem is another ludicrous concept. (What? More unilateral rules?) Of course you learned rationale such as this in the military. Heaven forbid that a "complainer" might stimulate some constructive idea for positive change in the reserved, but more creative soldier. Is it collaboration or is it conspiracy? Can't have that sort of thing going on in This Man's Army, now, can we?



Why are you so severely affected by this anyway? Surely you don't labor under the conceit that the pro pool players are "complaining" to you. Patience is generally something that comes with experience, although with the aid of an open, objective, analytical mind, the process might be shortened. Same for tolerance.



Just follow your simple blueprint for being a professional pool player—I'm sure that all you need is a bit of practice.



People with black/white viewpoints are seldom as analytical as they believe themselves to be. Don't confuse analytical with opinionated.



How about we change that to something with a little more of an "analytical" feel? How about, oh... maybe, "I just happen to believe what I believe to be right and wrong."



This is something that sociopaths often say, just thought you'd like to know.



First of all, thanks for the insight regarding the "American Idol" program. I didn't really know much about it.

Kudos are also in order for your taste in educational cable programming. None of that drivel intended for the unwashed masses, nosiree. My six year-old also enjoys these programs.

The real plum here, the thing that strips off the last bit of veneer, is this priceless jewel:



The "someones" who are getting "insulted after trying their best" are professional pool players. The person insulting them is you. I mention this with the hope that you will eventually come to understand how this might look to someone else. But we appear to agree on one thing—I don't find it entertaining either.



Holy mackerel. You make it sound as if they'll be giving monkeys librium and training them to play pro level pool next year. Congratulations are once again in order for being such an intelligent, forward-thinking, rational, and all-around perfect individual - a decision maker non-pariel. Not only did you handily devalue the natural ability of the best players, I suspect that you have made many of the readers of this forum feel appropriately inferior with the tone and content of your resumé. You did however, neglect to mention how much profit you made on the sale of your last house. That's typically the follow-up to the yearly salary disclosure.
 
Ain't about the money.....

Life isn't about how much cash you have made.

Life is about living, doing the things you dream of. Living the life like YOU want to live. Money is fine, but it's not everything.


The Story of the Mexican Fisherman


An American investment banker was at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them.

The Mexican replied, "only a little while."

The American then asked why didn't he stay out longer and catch more fish?

The Mexican said he had enough to support his family's immediate needs.

The American then asked, "but what do you do with the rest of your time?"

The Mexican fisherman said, "I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take siestas with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine, and play guitar with my amigos. I have a full and busy life."

The American scoffed, "I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds, buy a bigger boat. With the proceeds from the bigger boat, you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the processor, eventually opening your own cannery. You would control the product, processing, and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually New York City, where you will run your expanding enterprise."

The Mexican fisherman asked, "But, how long will this all take?"

To which the American replied, "15 - 20 years."

"But what then?" Asked the Mexican.

The American laughed and said, "That's the best part. When the time is right you would announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions!"

"Millions - then what?"

The American said, "Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take siestas with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos."
 
hi

again i type awful and slow but here goes.when i first got into pool it had the camel tour and guys were making nice money.now i realize things are in a funk right now and that sucks.i get up everyday and im thankful for what i have .pool has been good to me even though i chose to play a very small amount of tourneys the last 3 years.at any rate i guess my point is i dont think im some kind of genius or superman,or superior human to everybody because im good at pool.i just use pool to survive and do the best i can in life,i do think its a great game and i thank god im healthy enough to play it well, just like the other guys on tour.if everybody got to know the players on tour as well as i know them ,you would be surprised at how good of people most of them are.in closing i want to thank everybody for sticking up for me and the other players against guys like russ chewning.now russ honestly you have been brutal to me and i got a little defensive and got brutal on you to.in a nut shell we both like pool and we could maybe be friends someday.for now just remember im doing the best i can and so are the other players so please dont be so quick to think we are broke stupid whiny pieces of crap because we are just squirells trying to get a nut like everybody else.
 
posts such as these

you know i've read a few posts made by people that has made me a little irratated.someone previous to russ posted about the ipt laughing at "pool players getting hustled by KT" going on and on about pool players getting what they deserved and how thats what they get for not having real jobs.do you even like pool i ask you.do you not enjoy seeing someone get up there and not miss.hell i love to see someone bet their last nickel because they believe they can win,i've been there.i love this game,but sometimes the people confuse the hell outta me.i have never wanted to hear what someone hates about pool.i wanna hear about someone who loves it.its getting a little tired that people get on here tryin to vent thier feeling toward the game when the true cause is that they don't play to damn good thierselves.i have a job and play pool.they fight with each other all the time because i know i have to do one but all i want to do is the other.me myself (unlike mr.schmidt)have never ran 400 balls not even close.but i love the game the whole time i'm running 50.one day you damn pool bashers will find something better to do than degrade a game some have devoted their life to playing.thanks for listening.
 
gpeezy said:
you know i've read a few posts made by people that has made me a little irratated.someone previous to russ posted about the ipt laughing at "pool players getting hustled by KT" going on and on about pool players getting what they deserved and how thats what they get for not having real jobs.do you even like pool i ask you.do you not enjoy seeing someone get up there and not miss.hell i love to see someone bet their last nickel because they believe they can win,i've been there.i love this game,but sometimes the people confuse the hell outta me.i have never wanted to hear what someone hates about pool.i wanna hear about someone who loves it.its getting a little tired that people get on here tryin to vent thier feeling toward the game when the true cause is that they don't play to damn good thierselves.i have a job and play pool.they fight with each other all the time because i know i have to do one but all i want to do is the other.me myself (unlike mr.schmidt)have never ran 400 balls not even close.but i love the game the whole time i'm running 50.one day you damn pool bashers will find something better to do than degrade a game some have devoted their life to playing.thanks for listening.

john schmidt said:
again i type awful and slow but here goes.when i first got into pool it had the camel tour and guys were making nice money.now i realize things are in a funk right now and that sucks.i get up everyday and im thankful for what i have .pool has been good to me even though i chose to play a very small amount of tourneys the last 3 years.at any rate i guess my point is i dont think im some kind of genius or superman,or superior human to everybody because im good at pool.i just use pool to survive and do the best i can in life,i do think its a great game and i thank god im healthy enough to play it well, just like the other guys on tour.if everybody got to know the players on tour as well as i know them ,you would be surprised at how good of people most of them are.in closing i want to thank everybody for sticking up for me and the other players against guys like russ chewning.now russ honestly you have been brutal to me and i got a little defensive and got brutal on you to.in a nut shell we both like pool and we could maybe be friends someday.for now just remember im doing the best i can and so are the other players so please dont be so quick to think we are broke stupid whiny pieces of crap because we are just squirells trying to get a nut like everybody else.

Anyone besides me find these post oddly similar?
 
I just got through reading six pages of posts and are you all not being a little tough on Russ? The man spoke his opinion and from the start it all went amok.

1. This is a "global" forum and some choose wrap themselves in their nations flags. It's there choice and right...I don't have to care for it.

2. Some believe that a curtain race is innately superior in this sport. Remember white men can't jump...now some of the best basketball players are Eastern Europeans that can bring the rock and rain in the 3's.

3. Some believed the IPT would revolutionize our game and slammed anyone who wouldn't drink the Kool Aid.

Russ came with a opinion and stated his case. JS took offense with his stance and brought up the heat a little. They had a difference of thoughts and then out from every Villager came the venom. Now since he posted on a public forum it's all fare game...unless it gets mean spirited etc (Hey Bazooka maybe you can come live with my mother and help her with her VCR).

Me I'd rather argue over whether Cuetec's are "good" cues...the fact that Professional Darts pro's make more money is beginning to depress me.

http://www.planetdarts.tv/page/Rankings/0,,10180,00.html
Nick
 
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Nick B said:
Russ came with a opinion and stated his case. Nick

And, by doing so, broke his own rule of complaining about something for which you have no solution.
 
Slider said:
Well, you apparently are not willing to admit it now, but there have been strong implications about your feelings toward that choice in your previous posts. JMHO.

What I don't understand is how and where someone can acquire the gall to appoint themselves as the all-knowing, all-seeing and all-powerful arbitrator of "Who is Allowed to Complain" and "Who is Not".



Wow. Thanks to your spot-on description, mentioning names is not necessary, now is it? Chalk up another shot to the head of a pro pool player.

Like it or not, it is the individual's right to bemoan the conditions under which he exists, period. One may, of course, in their own mind set up some sort of self-righteous (dare I say, militaristic?) system of rules, whereby those who wish to improve their lot might be silenced, insulted and shunned, but this says far more about the maker of these rules than those who would be oppressed by them. Realize that your own objectivity may be clouded, because those who have been through brainwashing seldom are able to gauge its effects. The goal of the military is to eliminate individuality and judgement, causing the trainee to see things in black and white, and to follow orders. This makes it easier to control the trainee, easier to ask him to do uncomfortable things. The hard part is turning this thing off when you are done using it.

"Complaining" (your term - there are less judgemental words to describe it, BTW) is more often than not a good thing. Please realize that the only reason anyone has anything worth having today is because someone in the past was unsatisfied with the way things were. We are all standing on the shoulders of those who have gone before. Those who dared propose change and improvement have always fought an uphill battle, even though this country was founded by people who wanted to make things better. Funny how some things never change, isn't it?

The idea that someone has no right to "complain" unless they have a solution to the problem is another ludicrous concept. (What? More unilateral rules?) Of course you learned rationale such as this in the military. Heaven forbid that a "complainer" might stimulate some constructive idea for positive change in the reserved, but more creative soldier. Is it collaboration or is it conspiracy? Can't have that sort of thing going on in This Man's Army, now, can we?



Why are you so severely affected by this anyway? Surely you don't labor under the conceit that the pro pool players are "complaining" to you. Patience is generally something that comes with experience, although with the aid of an open, objective, analytical mind, the process might be shortened. Same for tolerance.



Just follow your simple blueprint for being a professional pool player—I'm sure that all you need is a bit of practice.



People with black/white viewpoints are seldom as analytical as they believe themselves to be. Don't confuse analytical with opinionated.



How about we change that to something with a little more of an "analytical" feel? How about, oh... maybe, "I just happen to believe what I believe to be right and wrong."



This is something that sociopaths often say, just thought you'd like to know.



First of all, thanks for the insight regarding the "American Idol" program. I didn't really know much about it.

Kudos are also in order for your taste in educational cable programming. None of that drivel intended for the unwashed masses, nosiree. My six year-old also enjoys these programs.

The real plum here, the thing that strips off the last bit of veneer, is this priceless jewel:



The "someones" who are getting "insulted after trying their best" are professional pool players. The person insulting them is you. I mention this with the hope that you will eventually come to understand how this might look to someone else. But we appear to agree on one thing—I don't find it entertaining either.



Holy mackerel. You make it sound as if they'll be giving monkeys librium and training them to play pro level pool next year. Congratulations are once again in order for being such an intelligent, forward-thinking, rational, and all-around perfect individual - a decision maker non-pariel. Not only did you handily devalue the natural ability of the best players, I suspect that you have made many of the readers of this forum feel appropriately inferior with the tone and content of your resumé. You did however, neglect to mention how much profit you made on the sale of your last house. That's typically the follow-up to the yearly salary disclosure.


Could be the most thought-out post/response I have ever read on this forum.

Well said, and spot on.

thank you

rg
 
Why does money not buy happiness keep coming up?

Money may not buy happiness, but I'll take my chances. Give me a break...
 
"It's basically a matter of the biggest, fastest, strongest, meanest ape gets the banana"..RC
..the beauty of pool is that that statement is fallacious in that a diminutive woman can play a big guy. Its not a body contact sport. Jennifer Chen could take the nuts from a two hundred pound texan if she didnt like the bananas.

"to practice/play full time"..RC pros, I think don't practice so much, they play. They play where other players play with lots of people watching. Thats totally different. One can't prepare for that in a garage imo. I think that if one has to practice to be a pro, then its already too late. And I don't think that anyone chooses to be a pro, it chooses them. Its a helpless happening twist of fate.

"I can find better people to be jealous of than John Schmidt" RC I'm not jealous of anybody but if I was, John would be a very good place to start.

Theres a big difference in writing about whether to play Efren for money sets as RC has written of and actually playing Efren as pros have. The world of difference. Win or lose, that act puts the player in another class. World class. Thats where John Schmidt is at and Roy Stefferson and theOne and JAM's other half.

If you have a dream, and youre living a nightmare provided by GWBush, I can understand your resentment. But um don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. And theres lots of tables that are pieces of shit around here. Thats just the fact of the matter.

"I found the choice between being a champion pool player and raising a family in comfort to be an easy one" RC It was a choice, though champion players have families too. Then 'becoming a champion pool player' became a daydream then like a thorn in your side. The big 'what if' that always lurks. Its good for your wife you did what you did,I guess.

"I gave up pool" "I realize pool will always be there" RC .. just not for you, I guess. They do have tables in Iraq that bounce balls out of the pockets, right.

"I just want ALL pros to ACCEPT how life is and either ACCEPT what it is they are destined to earn as a player or CHANGE things!"..RC Pro's have accepted it. Theyre players by and large though there is Dragon promotions (nothing to do with me) and Mike Siegel had the ear of a promoter so that happens too on smaller scales.

I don't think this post has anything to do with pros complaining but someone who wanted to be a pro complaining there wasnt enough money in it even if he had the ability.

Anyway, get home in one piece and grab some bananas on the way.
 
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