My Youtube of Deuel's Super Stroke Shot

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td873

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Click here for my youtube of this shot. (original thread here)

My table isn't near as fast as on the video, but I was pleasantly surpised to see how a megastroke plays on my table. Also, I was a bit closer to the object ball than Corey - well he's the pro ;)

As for the shot: I made the 4 (object ball) every time - altough once in the wrong pocket, doh! I got decent shape on the 5 ball 4 out of 5 times. On the one I blew shape, I hit the 7 with the cue ball (I didn't hit the cue ball hard enough to slide before the draw took). On the 4th shot, I even over drew the ball. It looked kinda sweet bending all the way down the table. The last shot was by far the worst - but at least the pool gods were smiling on me and the 4 went it.

I gotta admit though, to shoot that shot for the cheese in a match - Corey is a braver man than I'll ever be at pool!

-td
 
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Nice work! A little silicone on the CB (or slicker felt) during that 3rd attempt and you would have had an exact duplication of the shot. That's the only way to get that hooking motion.
 
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Corey's cue ball was closer to the rail. He used a rail bridge. He also bounced off in the area between the first and second diamond on the right long rail.
 
You get an "A" for effort. Thanks for sharing!

Corey was doing it in the final game for the cheese. He was off the rail. When the cue ball hit the rail, it "straightened" and came down to the end rail. Some of that could be the Predator shaft. You can definitely put some stuff on the ball with a Predator! But, a Predator plus Corey's monster stroke equals........"HOLY SH*T!".
 
great shot

it doesnt look like your putting any right side on the CB but i take it you are ??

i figure bottom right is the shot is that right :confused:
 
Very nice work...as mentioned it not "the shot" exactly but it gets it done.
Also as mentioned faster stuff may give you the exact same result Corey managed.
Rep to you for sharing your effort though...thats a nice shot to have in the ol memory bank.I'm gonna try it next time out.I'll be flat out giddy if I get close to the results you did.
 
Matt_24 said:
You get an "A" for effort. Thanks for sharing!

Corey was doing it in the final game for the cheese. He was off the rail. When the cue ball hit the rail, it "straightened" and came down to the end rail. Some of that could be the Predator shaft. You can definitely put some stuff on the ball with a Predator! But, a Predator plus Corey's monster stroke equals........"HOLY SH*T!".
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If you watch the whole game you will see that he misses a relatively straight in 9-ball and doesn't close the deal until the next game. Just proof that even when a pro is playing at his best they can get a little too loose. Of course it didn't matter being that he was up by 7 or 8 games and Mika was cold as ice sitting in that chair most of the match.
 
regardless of it not being exactly the same as corey's - still a damn fine series of shots in itself.

i'm gonna give that a go later!
 
belmicah said:
Corey's cue ball was closer to the rail. He used a rail bridge. He also bounced off in the area between the first and second diamond on the right long rail.
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I think we all watched it. I'm not saying I pulled off Corey's shot. But I came pretty close on inferior equipment. If you've got it, let's see your video ;)

-td
 
jediphil said:
great shot

it doesnt look like your putting any right side on the CB but i take it you are ??

i figure bottom right is the shot is that right :confused:
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You wont make that shot with any right english. Strictly draw.

(but what do I know).
 
Actually, you're right Scotster, I watch the video of Corey shooting it, and it is just plain draw that he uses, but he played what's known as a "Force Draw" shot, the delayed reaction of the rial was for 3 main factors;-

- The cloth was new, and so, naturally has a bit of slide in it.
- The ball set, was also new, and so, that will give more speed in the cloth and also a longer delay in the amount of time it takes any type of English to grip the cloth.
- The heat of the TV lights, makes the table play alot drier, and so, any slickness already there with the new cloth and ball set, is increased by about 20%, and therefore, makes power strokes, a little easier to work with, as reguards table speed :)

If the conditions were the same as td's table, I think that Corey would've had the same results, and so, with this in mind, I believe that td has got it spot on, only for his table being naturally a little slower, than a TV table :)

Rep points to you td and good on you for giving it a damn good effort :)

Willie
 
worriedbeef said:
regardless of it not being exactly the same as corey's - still a damn fine series of shots in itself.

i'm gonna give that a go later!
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yes it is. nice shots, hitting that hard with extreme english regardless if it had right or not, still very solid stroke.
 
Nice stroke TD. Don't listen to the neg. people on here. Most of the ones that put other peoples games down can't run 3 balls themselves. That's why you don't see them show up at the AZ room or they say they were there but didn't get a chance to drop in. They don't want to out themselves and look stupid because what they said they could do on the forums. Johnnyt
 
Not to kill your buzz but you can here a miscue...just enough grabbed the CB to put crazy spin on the ball...it's happened to me before....I'd be impressed if you drew it past the 7 and played shape on the other side....
 
Craig Fales said:
Not to kill your buzz but you can here a miscue...just enough grabbed the CB to put crazy spin on the ball...it's happened to me before....I'd be impressed if you drew it past the 7 and played shape on the other side....
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Hitting it softer does allow the ball to pull earlier, but the angle won't allow it to come straight back - or even remotely close to straight back. Scratching in the side would be the max at the angle of this shot.

IMO, what you are suggesting isn't physically possible without some sort of masse.

-td
 
Not impressed

all of those fancy "power" draw shots on that type of equipment is fodder for beginners. 860,new balls,light heat,anyone with half a stroke can come close to executing that.Next

If you wanna impress me,demonstrate that shot on a wool covered Gold Crown(I would say a double shimmed Diamond but I'm trying to be fair) with some used centenials:eek: :eek:
 
Walt Frazier said:
all of those fancy "power" draw shots on that type of equipment is fodder for beginners. 860,new balls,light heat,anyone with half a stroke can come close to executing that.Next

If you wanna impress me,demonstrate that shot on a wool covered Gold Crown(I would say a double shimmed Diamond but I'm trying to be fair) with some used centenials:eek: :eek:
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I'm equally not impressed with your lack of understanding. My video shows that Corey's shot isn't really out of reach for normal players. My point is that on decent equipment, anyone with a good stroke and solid fundamentals can execute shots of this type. I wanted to give the new players some context, rather than let them believe that only the seasoned pros can play those shots. BTW, my table isn't near TV fast, but my pockets are under 4.5" and the rails are 15 years old.

Oh, and who still plays on a wool covered GC I? Not the pros, and no pool hall I've been to has old nappy wool. I suggest you join the rest of us in 2007.

In fact, since your so good at armchair commentary, and if you even can, pull out your camera and show that you can move your cue as well as your mouth (er, keyboard) ;) Until you do so, I'll assume you can mouth about it, but not deliver. ;)

-td <- didn't your momma teach you if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all
 
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150shot said:
yes it is. nice shots, hitting that hard with extreme english regardless if it had right or not, still very solid stroke.
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My name is Joe Santos, I am producing the movie: Pool Hall Master which will be out in November. It is mainly about One-Pocket. It has over 50 minutes of actual playing. You can see another amazing shot that will be in the movie that was performed by Corey Deuel. After he made this shot he went on to run out and win this game against Gabe Owen. Go to www.poolhallmaster.com and click on the arrows to see both Corey Deuel and Gabe perform some of the shots in the movie.

Corey does have an amazing stroke.
 
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