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5/16x18 joint pin. Thanks for any help. DSCN0218_kindlephoto-93257505.jpg

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For whatever reason, I feel like I've seen that pattern in the buttsleeve on an old Kilby cue. Just a shot in the dark though.
 
ive seen old schon's with rings like that, not points or butt sleeve like that though.
 
Looks like it was made from a foreign blank. Long ferrules that look to be micarta. McD had the same butt sleeve design in their c series iirc.
 
Looks like it was made from a foreign blank. Long ferrules that look to be micarta. McD had the same butt sleeve design in their c series iirc.


Exactly this.

Adam cues were made in Japan for a time and they did build some eight pointers like this. The buttsleeve screams McD and the Veneers don't even match the forearm! Also the joint rings are not really specific to any one cuemaker, so that's a tough call.

What an odd mutt of a cue you have!
 
Exactly this.

Adam cues were made in Japan for a time and they did build some eight pointers like this. The buttsleeve screams McD and the Veneers don't even match the forearm! Also the joint rings are not really specific to any one cuemaker, so that's a tough call.

What an odd mutt of a cue you have!

Taiwan - Robertson...

Many of these were re-worked to look Americanized.

Dale
 
Who knows? If not an import, possibly the late Wayne Gunn.

Where in the country did it come from?

The 5/16 x 18 thread and those old mircata ferrules had me also thinking that this could be a Wayne Gunn cue. The cue looks well put together, and those joint rings look like they could have been influenced by Rocky Tillis, Wayne's mentor.

In the late 80's, when Wayne was working at Robertson's Billiard Supply and operating his own shop out of Baker's Billiards in downtown Tampa, had an inventory of overseas splice blanks with both 4 and 8 points from which he cherry picked... I have only ever seen those Taiwan-blanks accented with orange veneers, but that doesn't mean those were the only colors he had. At one point Wayne was also getting blanks from Barton Spain, but this is clearly not one of those.

I can say I've never seen a W.G. cue with a buttsleeve design like that, which is copied straight from the McDermott D-14.

I have one Wayne's late-80's "not-so-sneaky" pete cues with the orange veneers and same joint pin that I got from him when he was running his own shop at Bakers. It still hits fantastic and is still dead-straight after all these years. The shaft wood and taper on W.G. cues has always been exceptional. In fact, Wayne turned shafts for many better-known cue makers over the years.

In the 90's Wayne Gunn and Terry Mcinery formed their partnership and switched to flat-faced 3/8 x 10 pin cues. Prior to that, most of his cues have piloted 5/16 x 18 pins.
 
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The 5/16 x 18 thread and those old mircata ferrules had me also thinking that this could be a Wayne Gunn cue. The cue looks well put together, and those joint rings look like they could have been influenced by Rocky Tillis, Wayne's mentor.

In the late 80's, when Wayne was working at Robertson's Billiard Supply and operating his own shop out of Baker's Billiards in downtown Tampa, had an inventory of overseas splice blanks with both 4 and 8 points from which he cherry picked... I have only ever seen those Taiwan-blanks accented with orange veneers, but that doesn't mean those were the only colors he had. At one point Wayne was also getting blanks from Barton Spain, but this is clearly not one of those.

I can say I've never seen a W.G. cue with a buttsleeve design like that, which is copied straight from the McDermott D-14.

I have one Wayne's late-80's "not-so-sneaky" pete cues with the orange veneers and same joint pin that I got from him when he was running his own shop at Bakers. It still hits fantastic and is still dead-straight after all these years. The shaft wood and taper on W.G. cues has always been exceptional. In fact, Wayne turned shafts for many better-known cue makers over the years.

In the 90's Wayne Gunn and Terry Mcinery formed their partnership and switched to flat-faced 3/8 x 10 pin cues. Prior to that, most of his cues have piloted 5/16 x 18 pins.
Steve Cook had a Gunn cue with a more ornate but similar butt sleeve design.
 
If those are Micarta ferrules it is almost certainly a Wayne Gunn made from a imported butt blank.
 
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If those are Micarta ferrules it is almost certainly a Wayne Gunn made from a imported butt blank.
When I had a tip put on the guy said they were old micarta.I'll try to put up a close up pic this evening. Thanks
 
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Not mine -- when I built cues like this in the 80's I "signed" by engraving my initials and date on the butt bolt. I built that type of butt sleeve, but there would have been four loops, not two. Finally, I didn't have that kind of filmstrip. The butt looks like several I used which were from Taiwan through Canada.
 
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