Need Source for 1.5" x 30" Birdseye DOWEL

dirtypool40

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Guys

I want to buy one or two NICE birdseye dowels for a project / experiment.

HARD, dry maple

Birdseye, well figured over the length, NOT just one sided.

Doweled, 1.5" x 30" long.


I've already googled it and check Bellforest and the usual sources.



thanks in advance for the help....
 
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dirtypool40 said:
Guys

I want to buy one or two NICE birdseye dowels for a project / experiment.

HARD, dry maple

Birdseye, well figured over the length, NOT just one sided.

Doweled, 1.5" x 30" long.


I've already googled it and check Bellforest and the usual sources.



thanks in advance for the help....
 
dirtypool40 said:
Guys

I want to buy one or two NICE birdseye dowels for a project / experiment.

HARD, dry maple

Birdseye, well figured over the length, NOT just one sided.

Doweled, 1.5" x 30" long.


I've already googled it and check Bellforest and the usual sources.



thanks in advance for the help....

Birdseye begins in the heartwood and travels in a straight line out to the bark. Regardless of how the board is cut, you will have BI on two opposing sides but never four. Imagine a bicycle wheel laying flat on the ground and the spokes are the eyes, though in the tree, they never cross.
The very small eyes are found in and near the heartwood. As the eyes travel out towards the bark, they become larger in size. Buy a board.
 
i bought 3-4 large boards from Bell awhile back with tons of eyes and minimal heartwood.they were on Ebay,but i check often and haven't found any like the ones i bought before.seesm like lots of heartwood and not many eyes lately.but if you keep looking i bet they will eventually have some great stuff.the boards i got were 4A easy and some maybe 5A figure and very reasonable.
 
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I found a "Veneer log" at a local supplier. Save me the $$$ shipping the thing and I can cut it however I like.

I appreciate the responses so far. Thanks!!!
 
KJ, "Four sided" figure on birdseye occurs on the true quarter sawn squares. If the figure is strong enough it would occur on the sides or "cheeks" of a typical flat sawn board. Being less common, especially with good figure, the squares are sought after by some. If you cannot visualize how this happens I can probably take a few photos.

Martin




KJ Cues said:
Birdseye begins in the heartwood and travels in a straight line out to the bark. Regardless of how the board is cut, you will have BI on two opposing sides but never four. Imagine a bicycle wheel laying flat on the ground and the spokes are the eyes, though in the tree, they never cross.
The very small eyes are found in and near the heartwood. As the eyes travel out towards the bark, they become larger in size. Buy a board.
 
You are certainly entitled to your opinion and I appreciate your willingness to share it. However, as I see it, once a sq. is turned to round, it doesn't matter how the log was cut, 1/4 sawn or flat, no diff.
It is possible that, the closer the sq. was cut to the heart of log, the denser the radial distribution of the eyes will be and that will be giving the illusion of a 4 sided display. The only dowel that will give a full 360 degree display would be one taken from the exact center of the heart, though I don't think you'd want to use it.
 
i have some sap dowells with eyes all the way around,maybe not quite as pronounced on the 2 sides but they are there.i would say that out of the 50+ Birdseye dowells i have only 1 or 2 is four sided figure.
 
Birdseye is odd stuff, and unknown to scientists. So long as it's unknown & mysterious, I would have to believe nothing can be 100% sure about it besides the species. Some birdseye doesn't even begin in a tree until later years, leaving the heart clear. I have seen 4 sided figure in squares, but never in rounds. I won't say it can't happen, but I have not seen it. I have seen shorter "rays" on the curl side of birdseye rounds where the eye ends are exposed, but they still run in line with the other eyes. This is common in heavy figure & could give the appearance of 4 sided eyes, but it's actually the case.
 
I was thinking 4 sided figure in the square! I have several pieces like that here. I can't say that I recall turning one round though. I love birsdeye for the many variations there are.

Martin


KJ Cues said:
You are certainly entitled to your opinion and I appreciate your willingness to share it. However, as I see it, once a sq. is turned to round, it doesn't matter how the log was cut, 1/4 sawn or flat, no diff.
It is possible that, the closer the sq. was cut to the heart of log, the denser the radial distribution of the eyes will be and that will be giving the illusion of a 4 sided display. The only dowel that will give a full 360 degree display would be one taken from the exact center of the heart, though I don't think you'd want to use it.
 
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