need tip help for phenolic ferrule!!

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any suggestions for a tip used for breaking only on a phenolic ferrule? the tip itself cannot be phenolic. it needs to be of other material that is bca sanctioned. i was thinking hard leather? should therer be a pad? any info, names, model numbers is appreciated. thanks.
 
samsara, or to get around the rule and comply , i put on a water buffalo, and take down to about 1mm.........leather on thend but legal.
 
Just get a Samsara tip put on it.

My break cue came with phenolic tip and ferrule. My local cue guy took the phenolic tip down and put on the Samsara. No pad needed.
 
I faced off my phenolic ferrule about 3/8" shorter and put on a Samsara break/jump tip,,,,,,,that puppy hits now,,,,,,,,and spins
 
the samsara, odega, and mad man tips are nearly as hard as phenolic and jump really well.

for only breaking i like something slightly softer, but still very hard. a pressed WB is my favorite. the mezz pressed ingot is basically the same thing.
 
Korna pocket said:
any suggestions for a tip used for breaking only on a phenolic ferrule? the tip itself cannot be phenolic. it needs to be of other material that is bca sanctioned. i was thinking hard leather? should therer be a pad? any info, names, model numbers is appreciated. thanks.
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put a small piece of leather of the phenolic
 
Ditto on the Samsara j/b tip...mine's going on 18 months now, no issues. Crushes the rack like phenolic, but with control. Jumps great, too...and totally street legal everywhere.
 
I'm glad I saw this thread need a new shaft for my BK2 and was wondering about a good tip
 
JoseV said:
I'm glad I saw this thread need a new shaft for my BK2 and was wondering about a good tip
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Reminds me I need to have a new phenolic put on by Blackburn at Derby... If anyone tells you that you can't wear a phenolic tip out and they don't require maintenance you are looking at someone that must not get to break that often......

Still wish the BCAPL would remove the ban on phenolic ruling... I have yet to see a real Aramith cue ball with fractures from phenolic... I have seen a lot of imitation red circles and imitation measles balls with the fractures...

I think the rule should be that real aramith cue balls be in use... As it stands now they are sending the wrong message out... It's not the phenolic tip causing the problem it's the counterfeit cueballs causing the problem.....
 
i have an aramith cue ball that is definitely genuine and it got these little half moon cracks from a phenolic break tip. but not all phenolic tips do it, it was just this one particular one. i think the problem is that there are many manufacturers and grades of phenolic. some will damage the cue ball, some won't. G10 definitely will, that stuff should be banned as far as i'm concerned. not sure what the solution should be. but at least we have some really great leather alternatives now that perform just as well as phenolic. even without the ban, i like the leather ones better for a lot of reasons and i'd use them over phenolic anyways.
 
I have phenolic ferrule and sumo tip on my BK. Crushes the rack.
 
McChen said:
i have an aramith cue ball that is definitely genuine and it got these little half moon cracks from a phenolic break tip. but not all phenolic tips do it, it was just this one particular one. i think the problem is that there are many manufacturers and grades of phenolic. some will damage the cue ball, some won't. G10 definitely will, that stuff should be banned as far as i'm concerned. not sure what the solution should be. but at least we have some really great leather alternatives now that perform just as well as phenolic. even without the ban, i like the leather ones better for a lot of reasons and i'd use them over phenolic anyways.
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Agreed. I've seen phenolic tips put little micro cracks all over genuine Aramith cueballs...it might actually be just the finish that's fracturing, but in any event, the cueballs then trap chalk/dirt much more easily and are a bi@#$ to clean. Phenolic tips are also pretty hard on the cloth, leave nice white burn lines from the headstring to the foot spot (leather tips can do that, too, but not as much). There's a mathematical reason why a tip that's as hard as a cueball would be more damaging with less energy than a cueball colliding with another pool ball (deals with coeficient of penetration--a tip's curvature is "sharper" than the surface of a cue ball, so in collisions the tip wins).
 
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