Needed or not?

[SSDiver2112]

Personally, I use them. The few seconds it takes to remove them doesn't bother me. I fully understand why some people don't care about/for them. Like you, I carried my first cue loose without a case. Walk in, screw it together, play pool. Simple, but there was a small chance I could drop it during the minute I walked from the car to the table.

When I got a cue I cared about, I got a case to reduce the risk of damaging it. Now I have to un-zip the case and pull them out before I can screw it together (such a hassle). No matter what the cue costs, if you like the cue, you still never want to have to replace or repair it. After getting the cue I use today I got a JB Case to make sure it is protected (flip lid, no more zipper). There is little chance of damaging the joint while in that case and even less if I pull the shaft out and screw it onto the joint screw while still in the case.

I still use them anyway. The couple of seconds it takes is fine for a little bit more protection. Use them, don't use them, they are not a necessity, just a personal preference.

Note: If you prefer a joint down configuration or your case requires it, I would highly recommend joint protectors. I have seen a few joint pins poking out where it pierced the bottom of the case.

 

[TrxR]

I have joint protectors on my Viking cue now. I didn't for years and you can see where the tip of the pin has a few wear marks I also think they keep any dirt from getting into the threads. I know they aren't necessary especially now that mine live in a JB case but they are cheap and can't hurt.

 

[Grimper]

I can see maybe the radial pin but the qr barely has enough thread to get stuck. Weird. Regardless, it's only collarless joints like on sneakies that you need to torque the shaft in. With steel and implex, I turn until it stops - finger tight plus insurance, and don't bother with further tightening.

Yea, just google "unloc quick release cue stuck" and you'll see a lot of chatter about it.

 

[Lawnboy77]

I use em because they offer protection.

Cheaper then repair.

My cases offer the same. To each his own…if it works for you that’s fine. My process has done fine as well. I prefer to minimize wear on the threads. Have a good one!

 

[tim913]

It depended on the case for me. If using my old hunting(roadie) 1x1 it was joint down and tight tubes. The JP’s added enough length where I could grab ahold of something and pull it out

 

[pw98]

Totally agree! And if a person is likely to drop one it could just as easily happen when the JPs are removed. It’s kinda like aircraft maintenance…when I replace a hydraulic pump and I have the new pump in hand it’s a waste of time to cap the open hydro lines for 2 to 3 seconds only to have to remove them for the install.

If you always remove the cue from the case on the table and dis/assemble it on the table you wont. I had my cue's butt get dropped one time while putting it back in the case luckily it had a joint protector....

 

[MmmSharp]

I have JP’s for cues just to look good.


As for actual use I’ll break down the cost of my cue, case and JP use.

My cue is a 8pt Black Boar pretty fancy, idk current value. But it’s well over $10,000. My case is a $50 scorpion case that was a gift to me. And the JP’s come with the cue.

Sometimes I’ll put a JP on a shaft to mark that shaft as the one with the tip I like or am using. The other JP is in the pouch. On the butt that JP is a 50/50 chance it’s on the cue or somewhere else.

I’ve never used a JP for it’s intended purpose.

That’s my JP story

Fatboy

I only carry a tip-tapper and some 2000 sand paper that never gets used more than once every few months. And J&J powder. I travel light

You forgot the hot sauce.

 

[Fatboy]

You forgot the hot sauce.

Good looking out, your are right

 

[MmmSharp]

Good looking out, your are right

I saw the in the case video this past week posted. Good to put a face to the name. Even if it is from 10 years ago. I laughed at the hot sauce, but when you are traveling it can make all the difference.

 

[Fatboy]

I saw the in the case video this past week posted. Good to put a face to the name. Even if it is from 10 years ago. I laughed at the hot sauce, but when you are traveling it can make all the difference.

It’s the best! Actually I still do keep a bottle in my case when I’m going somewhere. I haven’t played much last few years. But I’m kinda getting itchy to play some

 

[hang-the-9]

the specs for the cue say 5/16 x 18 quick release. Mentions nothing about unilock. To me the joint looks no different than the joint on my circa 2000 model huebler. Don’t even know why Viking calls it quick release? You simply screw or unscrew the butt and shaft to assemble or disassemble. The model is viking B2001 natural stain with standard v-pro shaft and Lepro medium tip. Thank you

This is a good reference about cue pins/joints https://www.seyberts.com/pins

Quick Release is simply less threads on the pin, usually around 5 threads from what I have seen.

 

[Michael Webb]

There used to be many threads about the unlock pin seizing.

I wondered if that issue was no longer and if so, was it resolved due to makers acts?

I'd need to consult with Mr. Webb but believe popular thought was dirty unlock pins caused them to seize...a consequence of use that is out of makers' control.

That's why I was wondering why we never heard of the q/r pin seizing anynore.

One could only hope that
1st.
Cue makers take the very little time to polish thier screws before they install them.
And
2nd
That customers are being more aware of the dust/dirt problem and clean the insert once a month or so.

 

[Black-Balled]

Man, I got to get me a mike Webb for my house.

 

[GoldCrown]

Man, I got to get me a mike Webb for my house.

Yep.. get a 2 piece Webb and Screw It altogether

 

[Z-Nole]

Mobley marked my joint protectors so I can tell my different shafts apart, other than that I so t j ow what they’re used for to be honest.

 

[JazzyJeff87]

I used the JP that came with my 314 for a little while, then got tired of dealing with them.

I got that uni-loc joint too. I’ve never felt like it even thought about seizing up. Hopefully it stays that way lol.

 

[claymont]

I've had my shafts slide out of my case and chip the joint collars due to my carelessness. I now use joint protectors on my traveling cues...cheap protection.

 

[dquarasr]

If you always remove the cue from the case on the table and dis/assemble it on the table you wont. I had my cue's butt get dropped one time while putting it back in the case luckily it had a joint protector....

Sign on table in my hall: “No cue cases on the table.”

I use JPs for two reasons: it makes me feel better; and it makes me look cool intimidating all my competitors, making them shiver with fear at the prospect of having to play against me. (And then the dogs wake me.)

 

[maha]

yes if you are prone to dropping your cue apart joints down on hard concrete. then they make perfect sense.
and if you did it could cost you 50 bucks to fix it. so instead buy some nice joint protectors for a 100.

 

[Lawnboy77]

yes if you are prone to dropping your cue apart joints down on hard concrete. then they make perfect sense.
and if you did it could cost you 50 bucks to fix it. so instead buy some nice joint protectors for a 100.

Perfect! Lol