New Batch of Sugartree Cues Available

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We have a batch of Sugartree cues coming in next Wed. Eric told me he is extremely pleased with this batch of cues due to the quality of the woods used and the finishes. The 8 pointers have old growth Maple shafts from a tree Eric cut down himself that was 300 years old. Eric will only sell theses shafts with his cues and will not sell separately. Below are the specs. Please email me at cueman@new2youqs.com if you would like to purchase one of these cues. No trades please, prices are firm, first come first served. Thanks!

Brunswick solid Maple conversion, Bocote buttsleeve, one fancy ring pack above buttsleeve, one 13mm shaft, 19oz. - SOLD

Goncalo Alves into Maple Sneaky Pete, fancy rings, two shafts @ 13mm, 19oz. - SOLD

Cocobolo Forearm/Butt with an incredible Birdseye handle, Buckhorn joint/butt, two 13mm shafts, fancy rings, 19oz. - $1,400

Eight point Purpleheart into Old Growth Birdseye, Purpleheart handle, Birdseye butt, fancy rings, two 300 year old growth shafts @ 13mm, 19oz. - SOLD Pending Payment

Eight point Cocobolo into Old Growth Birdseye, Cocobolo handle, Birdseye butt, fancy rings, two 300 year old growth shafts @ 13mm, 19oz. - $1,800

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Show us some pics of the shafts!! Talk about nice woods...these cues look great...I can see why Eric's cues are so hard to get. Wow!!
 
I would love a sugartree But,

Man thats strong $
My bet is that they are probably sold. The eight pointers are especially gorgeous and the shafts well; they are sick DARK!

Sugar tree owners speak up do these play like a Scruggs,Manzino,SW?

Mr. Crisp has a 5 year wait as I understand so theres no shortage of buyers. I just see cues with TONS of intricate work going at these prices where is the magic?


Please fellow AZ'rs DO NOT TAKE MY INQUIRY AS DIS-RESPECT TO THE BUILDER OR SELLER, DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE MY POINT?

Seeking feedback and Backlash!

Niner
 
Me to, I would like to know what makes them so special. They look great and the workmanship seems to be top notch. But the prices.....




Nine Out said:
Man thats strong $
My bet is that they are probably sold. The eight pointers are especially gorgeous and the shafts well; they are sick DARK!

Sugar tree owners speak up do these play like a Scruggs,Manzino,SW?

Mr. Crisp has a 5 year wait as I understand so theres no shortage of buyers. I just see cues with TONS of intricate work going at these prices where is the magic?


Please fellow AZ'rs DO NOT TAKE MY INQUIRY AS DIS-RESPECT TO THE BUILDER OR SELLER, DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE MY POINT?

Seeking feedback and Backlash!

Niner
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Salamander said:
Me to, I would like to know what makes them so special. They look great and the workmanship seems to be top notch. But the prices.....
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The secret is magical leprechauns ;)
 
I would suggest that those who wish to discuss the pricing of these or any other cuemakers' cues, should start a separate thread in which to do so. I am sure you would receive varying views.

It is considered poor form to discuss prices in a For Sale thread. Whether it be a private individual, or a dealer...it shows a lack of respect. Consider this, what if you had something for sale here, and the thread was filled with those making comment on your pricing? Would you be happy about it?

Although, with regards to Eric's cues, I doubt it will have too huge an impact, as his cues a very highly sought after for their playability, and because there is low supply to high demand. This is an opportunity to bring you a selection of new Sugartree cues, without the wait. I am sure these cues will sell out like the last group offered did.

Lisa
 
Inquiry was made resepectfully

IMO, this is a forum. We discuss,we buy,we agree and dis-agree.

I never intended to in any way hurt anyone. I even inquired about these cues over a week ago after receiving a PM from MR. CRISP himself.

Anyone whom may read this post please know that my intent was not to question value, it was to understand perception!

If Sugartree owners perceive the cues to be worth 5k, then 5k they will bring.

Sorry if I've offended. Mr. Crisp does not have a web-site (that I am aware of) and I would like to make an educated buying decision.

"Niner"
 
Nine Out said:
IMO, this is a forum. We discuss,we buy,we agree and dis-agree.

I never intended to in any way hurt anyone. I even inquired about these cues over a week ago after receiving a PM from MR. CRISP himself.

Anyone whom may read this post please know that my intent was not to question value, it was to understand perception!

If Sugartree owners perceive the cues to be worth 5k, then 5k they will bring.

Sorry if I've offended. Mr. Crisp does not have a web-site (that I am aware of) and I would like to make an educated buying decision.

"Niner"
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Niner, I am not picking on you in particular...and it is fair to ask these questions, however, it has always been an unspoken rule here on AZ that the discussion of pricing directly in an active For Sale thread not be done. You are relatively new to AZ...but there are others who have been here much longer, and definitely know better. It is a practice that is definitely frowned upon.

However......please feel free to start a discussion thread on this very topic, as I am sure it would be quite active, and there may be good info or opinions to be had. There have been similar questions in the past with regards to other cuemakers' pricing that have been somewhat similar to the Sugartrees. Every couple of years, there comes a cuemaker who is considered 'red hot' and the discussion as to pricing comes up again...which is cool, just not in someone else's For Sale thread.

I apologize to Jamie for a slightly sideways hijacking of this thread...just felt the issue needed to be addressed, yet again.

Lisa
 
I have purchased two Sugartrees from Jamie over the last year. One a cocabolo sneaky and the other a solid rosewood and was more than happy with the cues and the service.
Mike T
 
Great looking sugartree cues!

Good luck with the sales.

I've had two and now own one and they hit solid and I would say the hit is on the stiffer side. The workmanship and all the materials used are top notch.
gh8st
 
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I disagree. I see no problem on a public forum to discuss pricing or anything else for that matter. Like nine out said, I am not disparaging sugertree cues at all. I think they look terrific. I'm just curious what makes them so expensive. The same question could be asked of Searing cues, Tascarellas, Showmans, etc...

I'm a huge fan of Southwests and I'm willing to pay the price for them because I like them. Are they overpriced....HELL YES. There is no earthly reason that they need to be priced as high as they are except for some people (including myself) like the way that they are constructed. I'm willing to pay the price because it gives me the "hit" I want. The day that a cuemaker makes a similar product for less, then I'll dump my Southwests and buy his product.

So, that is why I'm asking what makes Sugartrees to so worth it. There is no need to get defensive and nasty about a simple question. I've never seen one personally, but I like the look of these. He seems to be one of the few cuemakers that got extremely popular fast.....I want to know why. If magic leprechauns is indeed the secret behind these cues then these cues are probably vastly underpriced and I will probably buy all of them. If I felt that a sugartree would help me play better I'd pay double the price. I'm an interested buyer if someone can explain to me what makes these cues worth it.

Cheer up Lisa,

Regards,

Doug








ridewiththewind said:
I would suggest that those who wish to discuss the pricing of these or any other cuemakers' cues, should start a separate thread in which to do so. I am sure you would receive varying views.

It is considered poor form to discuss prices in a For Sale thread. Whether it be a private individual, or a dealer...it shows a lack of respect. Consider this, what if you had something for sale here, and the thread was filled with those making comment on your pricing? Would you be happy about it?

Although, with regards to Eric's cues, I doubt it will have too huge an impact, as his cues a very highly sought after for their playability, and because there is low supply to high demand. This is an opportunity to bring you a selection of new Sugartree cues, without the wait. I am sure these cues will sell out like the last group offered did.

Lisa
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Below is an update on the Sugartree cues. Thanks for the comment Mike.


Brunswick solid Maple conversion, Bocote buttsleeve, one fancy ring pack above buttsleeve, one 13mm shaft, 19oz. - SOLD

Goncalo Alves into Maple Sneaky Pete, fancy rings, two shafts @ 13mm, 19oz. - SOLD

Cocobolo Forearm/Butt with an incredible Birdseye handle, Buckhorn joint/butt, two 13mm shafts, fancy rings, 19oz. - $1,400

Eight point Purpleheart into Old Growth Birdseye, Purpleheart handle, Birdseye butt, fancy rings, two 300 year old growth shafts @ 13mm, 19oz. - SOLD Pending Payment

Eight point Cocobolo into Old Growth Birdseye, Cocobolo handle, Birdseye butt, fancy rings, two 300 year old growth shafts @ 13mm, 19oz. - $1,800
 
For those of you that have inquired about why Sugartree cues are in such high demand I will explain. First of all, Eric Crisp is extremely passionate about making cues with the highest quality wood on the planet. He will go to some outrageous lengths to find the right wood for his cues. He sometimes actually goes into the woods to find old, unique, high quality trees and will cut them down himself (such as the tree used for the 300 year old, old growth shafts on the 8 points cues in his latest batch). He will not compromise on the woods he uses. He wants the woods to create the beauty in his cues, not inlays.

Eric also understands the dynamics of woods that are crucially important to great playability in his cues. If Eric builds a cue, or is in the process of building a cue and the playability factors are not coming together the way he wants, the cue will not make it out of his shop. He also has some construction techniques that are a little different than most cuemakers which also add to the superb playability of his cues.

Lastly, he is especially particular about his shaft wood. In my opinion, Eric has the best playing shaft wood of any cuemaker I know. He pays as much attention to the shafts on his cues as the forearms; they are not an after sight like with many cue makers today. They may not be the whitest, crystal clear shafts in the world, but I guarantee they will play like a dream.

Hopefully this is helpful information for those who asked.

Thanks,
 
That's what I was looking for. Thanks Jamie. Good luck with the last remaining sales. If I sell a SW that I have, I might be an interested buyer.

Thanks,
Doug



Worminator said:
For those of you that have inquired about why Sugartree cues are in such high demand I will explain. First of all, Eric Crisp is extremely passionate about making cues with the highest quality wood on the planet. He will go to some outrageous lengths to find the right wood for his cues. He sometimes actually goes into the woods to find old, unique, high quality trees and will cut them down himself (such as the tree used for the 300 year old, old growth shafts on the 8 points cues in his latest batch). He will not compromise on the woods he uses. He wants the woods to create the beauty in his cues, not inlays.

Eric also understands the dynamics of woods that are crucially important to great playability in his cues. If Eric builds a cue, or is in the process of building a cue and the playability factors are not coming together the way he wants, the cue will not make it out of his shop. He also has some construction techniques that are a little different than most cuemakers which also add to the superb playability of his cues.

Lastly, he is especially particular about his shaft wood. In my opinion, Eric has the best playing shaft wood of any cuemaker I know. He pays as much attention to the shafts on his cues as the forearms; they are not an after sight like with many cue makers today. They may not be the whitest, crystal clear shafts in the world, but I guarantee they will play like a dream.

Hopefully this is helpful information for those who asked.

Thanks,
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it is really pretty simple why his cues cost so much.it is called supply and demand.he makes very nice cues and people love them,so they buy them all and there are none left.then he makes some more people buy them all.he was a little cheaper last year,but he had to raise his prices to catch up to the secondary market prices.if he didn't he would be hurting himself in more ways than one.he he kept his prices for a 6 pointer at $1000,but they are $1600 on the secondary market used,then he is costing himself $600 per cue and if he did it long enough it might actually hurt the value in the long run.
 
They are in such demand because they are hard to get and they play AWESOME. Jamie, good luck with your sales.
 
cool looking phenolic in the Purpleheart cue.i have never seen that color.i wonder if he stained it or if that is the color.i like the light colored phenolics alot.
 
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