NEW! chazdillon case thread

Thank u very much. I don't want to be rude but I don't think people understand that I don't stay on az and when I do post its usually from my phone on a break. Everyone knows my az name email address and new number that is only a week old. My old phone was unactivated on the 26th of last month so its not like I'm dodging people. I will not update people on az anymore. I tried but its impossible to satisfy everyone. I will post pics of completed cases sometimes and for the retard that said I was selling more cases, I was only selling things that people were refunded on or things that people couldn't afford to pay the rest on. That's why I don't take deposits on anything under 400. Its unfair to people waiting.

Once again thanks. This bs is another waste of time and I'm sorry to everyone that is waiting for a case that I spent my time doing this.
Chaz dillon

i just gotta say that chaz and the other dude have never failed to answer any of my emails or calls. we all know that the cases are gonna take time, and for the price that many of us paid, i think it's worth it. that's why i'm sticking around and staying patient.

thanks, and keep pluggin away chaz, can't wait to see my gambler case!
 
I'd like to know when u ordered thefonz . I ordered back in March and others have ordered around then too. I haven't voiced this yet but I, as well as everyone else who ordered back then when Chaz started, am pretty peeved that our cases haven't showed up yet and Chaz is still taking orders. I for one, have not even seen any proof that my case has even begun. All I've been getting are messages that say "mine is almost done and will be shipped out this week for sure." I'm sure everyone else has been getting the same. First it was wrong dye, redoing it, interiors not here yet, etc etc. Exactly how many cases have been turned out? Exactly how many people have seen pictures of their cases? thefonz, if you ordered after me, how come you've got pictures of your case and I haven't even seen mine? At the most, I've seen a blurry picture from a camera phone. One picture of something that wasn't even dark brown leather as I requested, nor was it a justis style cap, also as requested.
 
Thank u very much. I don't want to be rude but I don't think people understand that I don't stay on az and when I do post its usually from my phone on a break. Everyone knows my az name email address and new number that is only a week old. My old phone was unactivated on the 26th of last month so its not like I'm dodging people. I will not update people on az anymore. I tried but its impossible to satisfy everyone. I will post pics of completed cases sometimes and for the retard that said I was selling more cases, I was only selling things that people were refunded on or things that people couldn't afford to pay the rest on. That's why I don't take deposits on anything under 400. Its unfair to people waiting.

Once again thanks. This bs is another waste of time and I'm sorry to everyone that is waiting for a case that I spent my time doing this.
Chaz dillon

STOP:

YOUR FIRST JOB IS TO TAKE PICTURES OF EACH PERSON'S CASE AND PROGRESS. DO IT RIGHT NOW, POST IT ON HERE. I BET YOU HAVEN'T STARTED ON ANY CASES YET.

I AM CALLING YOU OUT. PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG.


You must be a noob Chaz or a scam artist for Trying to Sell cue's/cases without Pictures? Are you serious?
 
STOP:

YOUR FIRST JOB IS TO TAKE PICTURES OF EACH PERSON'S CASE AND PROGRESS. DO IT RIGHT NOW, POST IT ON HERE. I BET YOU HAVEN'T STARTED ON ANY CASES YET.

I AM CALLING YOU OUT. PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG.


You must be a noob Chaz or a scam artist for Trying to Sell cue's/cases without Pictures? Are you serious?

6 months ago he ran a raffle for a case that has not been delivered. He continues to publicly ignore the winners plea for his case.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=133156


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i had won the raffle and havent seen so much as a pic yet. and i tried calling his cell as well and recieved the disconnected message. can someone chime in and tell us what is going on?
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I have had the following excuses given to me for the reason of delay

My Girlfriends house burnt down
Decided to change pocket design
Someone broke into my car and stole my phone
Went to a family funeral and had no phone reception
I have a job now and do not have enough free time
No interiors

ROY

Wow, roy, the guy who screwed me said,

*Dude, I have to transfer funds into my bank before I can ship*
*I texted you man, it was in CA now it's back here.
*I have a friend who drives trucks he will deliever it you can meet him up.
*Oh, imma ship it out Wednesday
*I can't find a large enough box
*I have to go to a wedding.
*I work 2 jobs, sorry I am not trying to screw you, I am just swamped.
===============

HangemHigh, I smell these type of people a mile a way.
 
I speak for myself and others when I say, "I've been damned patient and reluctant to hang shit on the fence."

March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 8 months.

I'm bout to start a thread on what has been paid to Chaz for his case and then stick this in my signature: "Lost: One excellent condition OB-1 Shaft + One 20 Dollar Bill."
 
I speak for myself and others when I say, "I've been damned patient and reluctant to hang shit on the fence."

March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 8 months.

I'm bout to start a thread on what has been paid to Chaz for his case and then stick this in my signature: "Lost: One excellent condition OB-1 Shaft + One 20 Dollar Bill."



Here, in this thread, he calls his customers that are complaining babies, that he cannot "babysit". Check out post 4

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=158688
 
Thank u very much. I don't want to be rude but I don't think people understand that I don't stay on az and when I do post its usually from my phone on a break. Everyone knows my az name email address and new number that is only a week old. My old phone was unactivated on the 26th of last month so its not like I'm dodging people. I will not update people on az anymore. I tried but its impossible to satisfy everyone. I will post pics of completed cases sometimes and for the retard that said I was selling more cases, I was only selling things that people were refunded on or things that people couldn't afford to pay the rest on. That's why I don't take deposits on anything under 400. Its unfair to people waiting.

Once again thanks. This bs is another waste of time and I'm sorry to everyone that is waiting for a case that I spent my time doing this.
Chaz dillon


Here, he calls people who are shining the light of truth on him retarded.
 
Here, in this thread, he calls his customers that are complaining babies, that he cannot "babysit". Check out post 4

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=158688

I know, I was looking at his "Predator cue for sale" and saw your post.
I've seen some of his previous for sale threads while back, with no pictures, I know he is not a noob and was wondering why or how can someone sell anything now a days with no pictures?

This discovery pretty much answered my curiosity.

Feel bad for all the good people, I know how horrible this feels, I was out $450 on an unrelated deal. =(
 
How many cases have been ordered?

How many cases have been delivered?

How many of the delivered cases were delivered on time?

How many ordered cases are past the due delivery date?

What is the current lead time for a case from order date to delivery?

Joe
 
I don't even know if I want the case now. Once an artist begins to get fed up with his work, he loses his passion. Once that's gone, all his work from there on out become a shell of their former glory. Now that I've joined the boat of people who are voicing their dissatisfaction, I question the handiwork of my case should it ever get here.
 
How many cases have been ordered?

How many cases have been delivered?

How many of the delivered cases were delivered on time?

How many ordered cases are past the due delivery date?

What is the current lead time for a case from order date to delivery?

Joe

Mr. Joe is one of the most respected individuals on here and unbiased.

So let's make a list:

CHAZ DILLION CASE ORDERED/PROMISED AND NOT RECIEVED:

1. Bencho (March 2009)
2. TroyRoy78 ( )
3. Mtdsports (Raffle)
4.
5.


CHAZ DILLION CASE ORDERED/PROMISED AND RECIEVED LATE:

1.
2.
3.


CHAZ DILLION CASE ORDERED/PROMISED AND RECIEVED ON TIME:

1.
2.
3.
 
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<----- CHAZ DILLION CASE ORDERED/PROMISED AND NOT RECEIVED [March 2009]
I'm pretty sure John Barton bought out two guys on the line so Chaz owes him TWO cases. John's been overly generous with several other people, offering to trade one of HIS OWN cases or something to that effect while people were waiting for Chaz.
Also, I think either koinkid or FAST_AND_LOOSE [can't ever seem to tell them apart, i keep thinking they are the same person for some odd reason >.< ] received one but commented that the workmanship was questionable.
 
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i dont know how else to describe things to people that have not read the threads...the interiors were wrong and we paid 280 just in shipping to get this matter resolved. if u have any doubts contact jb and he will verify this to be true.

just because i dont post pics of everything i do doesnt mean that im not working on things. obviously it would take forever to do something then take a picture then run to the computer and post it. noone else does this for anyone so stop asking me to waste time doing it. if u dont deal buisness with me then u have no idea on what the expected wait time is for anyone so u really have no idea whats going on so please ask. if someone has already asked the same question then read the thread i cant answer the same thing over and over again.

i did switch dye to a way better dye to create a better product if you are interested in that please email me at chazdillon@aol.com or if u want to know anything else. why cant people read and understand that im not arguing that the wait times have been rediculous and that there were alot of hangups between turning a hobby into a buisness so if u want to know what that is then here ya go,,,,,,getting LLC licensed and having a tax id number so i can do this legally...setting up buisness acounts with suppliers and getting interiors from half way around the world when the ones that the company sent were wrong. if u think im defending myself and not agreeing with u then u cant read....obviously im in a stressful situation with a few people other than that i dont have that many people past their wait time because I HAVENT TAKEN ANY OTHER ORDERS....if u cant read the fact that ive only recently put up other cases that people were either refunded for or could not pay the rest of their deposit...which was only one of those then please do the research before u ruin this thread like others have done to the other one......where are the people wondering which azers scewed me out of 3 cases. noone huh? but im on here siding with the people that are waiting for a case and u refuse to see that i am not running from the issue and im dealing with it. bencho i called and u didnt answer. u have never called me once and that hasnt stopped me from working on your case. troyroy i have your original case with the bad dye almost done. if u want it ill send it to you and when it stains your shirt because the dye is horrable quality then im sure you would appreciate the fact that instead of sending it out i took it upon myself to start over. once you said u wanted a refund i told a few others that are waiting for a case that it would be done sooner now and then u changed your mind, which is ok, but now thats one more deadline that i couldnt hit. eric is doing his best to answer emails also.

if u dont contact me or eric to see what is going on then im sorry. now u know how to get an update. azbilliards is not my buisness website so dont expect immediate response if u choose to use this method. if u order a case from jb or justis and have a question about it do u call them or do u post a question on az....why is it that u treat me differently in the same situation. i have refunded 2 people that called and there were no quesions asked and both parties were satisfied.
 
<----- CHAZ DILLION CASE ORDERED/PROMISED AND NOT RECEIVED [March 2009]
I'm pretty sure John Barton bought out two guys on the line so Chaz owes him TWO cases. John's been overly generous with several other people, offering to trade one of HIS OWN cases or something to that effect while people were waiting for Chaz.
Also, I think either koinkid or FAST_AND_LOOSE [can't ever seem to tell them apart, i keep thinking they are the same person for some odd reason >.< ] received one but commented that the workmanship was questionable.

CHAZ DILLION CASE ORDERED/PROMISED AND NOT RECIEVED:

1. Bencho (March 2009)
2. TroyRoy78 ( )
3. Mtdsports (Raffle)
4. LMB?
5.

CHAZ DILLION CASE ORDERED/PROMISED AND RECIEVED LATE AND/OR UNSATISFACTORY:

1.
2.
3.


CHAZ DILLION CASE ORDERED/PROMISED AND RECIEVED ON TIME AND/OR SATISFACTORY:

1.
2.
3.
 
Mr. Joe is one of the most respected individuals on here and unbiased.

So let's make a list:

CHAZ DILLION CASE ORDERED/PROMISED AND NOT RECIEVED:

1. Bencho (March 2009)
2. TroyRoy78 ( )
3. Mtdsports (Raffle)
4.
5.

CHAZ DILLION CASE ORDERED/PROMISED AND RECIEVED LATE:

1.Frank Cherry's case
2.
3.


CHAZ DILLION CASE ORDERED/PROMISED AND RECIEVED ON TIME:

1.CHAZDILLION ELEPHANT HYDE(FOR CHAZ)
2.
3.
 
if your going to do a list let me help u out........fast n loose. bencho and lpcustom cues are almost done. mtd sports is almost done also but im trying to put in some extra work on his to add value because he has been amazingly patient with me so im trying to do a favor in return, im sure he will be super happy.

honestly if u ask jb i undersold my work so if u want a refund then that ends up with me having more material to make more money with so........whatever u want.

as far as the list goes that is a great idea and a very professional way to resolve the situation as long as everyone doesnt try and attack me i dont mind letting everyone know whats going on

as far as the others that bring only problems and no solutions i dont have time for you and neither do the people wondering whats going on so please dont taint this thread. its a chance for everyone to come to an understanding.

as far as that guy calling me out lets see him put up some money...put up 5k and ill go take some pics and send u everything i got. ill pay everyone double for what they paid for their cases and we can all point and laugh at your expense. like i said if u have something constructive to add then please do so and dont come out of left field judging and pointing fingers. also dont respond to this unless your putting up the 5k because im not going to argue with u over the internet...some azers that can vouch for me can chime in and say that we always answer our phones and emails would be nice to, that could swing this in a more positive direction.

also i cant post pics from a blackberry when im not at home so thats why there were no pics attatched to the predator with a statement saying send a pm with contact info for pics.

eric aka dirtypool40 has my list of people waiting. but there are not as many as what people are assuming like im running away with peoples money. i did some cases on here cheap to get pics for a website.

bencho. no i did not lose my passion but this isnt helping the az side of things. i can sleep easily knowing that i am doing my best to get yours,lpcustom cues,bencho, and mtds cases out as fast as possible. if i wanted to make a crappy case and send it out then i could do that and u could have had it already as well as everyone else. i want to make top notch work such as fcees case as posted on the first page. i hope u see that.

as far as the craftmanship on the case to fast n loose. i told him that i would throw it together and make him a good one. he sold that one so he got his case even cheaper. i chaulked it up as a loss of an interior and moved on and we both talked on the phone and everything is fine. he knows that im a man of my word even if it is telling him bad news about the interiors or good news. im sorry i havent been able to tell everyone what they wanted to hear but if u want to hear something then call me. if u have some type of social anxiety disorder then email me.

i know for a fact that people do not call me because they feel bad for trying to bash me on az then when i call them and im nice and understanding of their concerns then i try and get them pics to THEIR EMAIL ADDRESSES. i dont post everything i do on az so lets get that understood. noone on here does.

ONCE AGAIN MY PHONE NUMBER IS 407 233 8450
MY EMAIL ADDRESS IS CHAZDILLON@AOL.COM

if u do not contact me then i cannont resolve your concerns, that seems very reasonable to me. if anyone has another suggestion that isnt post every picture of everything u do then feel free to offer a suggestion.

ONCE AGAIN...I DO NOT HAVE TIME TO TAKE A PIC OF EVERYTHING I DO AND POST IT. YOU SEE FRANKS CASE, YOU SEE DOMS CASE, YOU SEE MY CASE. YOU WILL HAVE PICS OF LP AND BENCHO IF THEY CHOOSE TO POST PICS

i do not want to withdraw my services from az and if you have nothing to do with this then please butt out and let the people that are involved handle the situation. neither party needs your internet superhero attitude messing up what we are trying to do for the situation. if u can better the thread then please do so. if not then silence is golden and just read on and see how it pans out.
 
Mr. Joe is one of the most respected individuals on here and unbiased.

So let's make a list:

CHAZ DILLION CASE ORDERED/PROMISED AND NOT RECIEVED:

1. Bencho (March 2009)
2. TroyRoy78 ( )
3. Mtdsports (Raffle)
4.
5.

CHAZ DILLION CASE ORDERED/PROMISED AND RECIEVED LATE:

1.Frank Cherry's case
2.
3.


CHAZ DILLION CASE ORDERED/PROMISED AND RECIEVED ON TIME:

1.CHAZDILLION ELEPHANT HYDE(FOR CHAZ)
2.
3.

there is also another elephant case for another azer and it is not my place to say his name. if he wants to come out and say it then he is welcome to. there is alot involved on his case and its kinda a work of art and i have talked to him within the last week also about some lazer engraving and some options that were not available once he placed his order at that time. we are on good terms and i told him i would not charge him for the engraving.
 
if u can add a spot that is for ordered and not late that would be great too. some people wanted in on the deal and i explained the situation at the time and they were cool with any wait that there was.

these are the people that i go above and beyond for not the people that complain on the internet. i know im making a damn good case now so if u want to put a spot on there about my work thumbs up or thumbs down then thats cool too.

how much do u think frank paid for that case......how much do u think the leather, dye, zippers, interior, rivets, snaps, etc...cost. how long do u think it took to hand tool his name and cherrys in the back plus the tooling on the rest of the case, to dye the leather, and how long do u think it took to assemble the case. how long do u think it took to lace the pockets and lid...ill answer the last one, it takes about 1 hour to do 3 inches of that lace. thats not counting the prep work as far as punching holes for the rivets and lace and snaps...etc........guess how much i made on that case.....ill answer that one too. NEGATIVE i lost money on that case and ill lost money on lpcustomcues, bencho, mtd, and fastnloose. and its ok. i will make something awesome and then when all the az haters want a case ill charge them standard prices for a case made by hand of the highest quality leather and the highest quality dye. untill you order something custom u wont understand.
 
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