New cue ... new way to look at 4 points...

Mr. Brian

I guess i would like to first say thanks for your input and comment. Second I am really disconnected from the cue world in itself. See I live in a town called moselle ms where my neighbors are my cows. I'm talking about it's so country that the most fun you could have is to run from one end of the field to the other without stepping on crap. I am not around many cues except for meucci and player cues.... Those are what is common in small town bars. I don't get out much and I don't buy much cues. I stay at home with my two kids sell cues and cows...... yes I said cows. So as far as being influenced by others the most culture I got from cues was at the valley forge 2009. I did sell everything I brought but was meet with many ridicule from other cue makes for my cues...one reason why I didn't make it to the 2010 forge. but I am influenced by my children and childrens drawing. And My FATHER who I am very proud of he has always told me if I wanted to go into this business don't look at other peoples cue and pictures of cue so that you won't be tempted to do the same. if you happen to do something the same as someone it's better to be a coincdince than a copy of. as far as the ridicul I got I think it was uncalled for because I admired every cue I saw there cause I have never seen so much in one place and I told the cue makers there that I loved their cue....honestly... but they seem to take it different. O well .... who would you recommend to play test these cues?

I love your attitude! Don't worry about the ridicule, every cue maker has to endure some of that. Besides, they're probably just jealous. :p

Roger
 
ok..... there are alot of people who have been pming me and want to see these finished and in person ...how about this, if you think you might be interested in the cue and will be at the Gem City Classic, post up and I will bring what I can make but I want to tell you all that I might only be there for 1 day cause of funds but will make it nonetheless.... unless someone buys one more from me before then and I'll use that money to stay longer.... first person can get one for 550 for this purpose only and will be #14 but 1 of a kind due to wood combination. this would help me out there to stay longer and help pay for a babysitter for me kids. I live in Mississippi so this trip I can't bring my kids....who are 2 and 3. I wish everyone could be there who likes the pics to see the cues. first come first serve
 
Piercy, I think they look great..a very interesting new look..If you ever want someone to take one for a test drive let me know I would love to.
Lee
 
Very cool design...unique

Are you going to use mother of peal for the dots? I'd love to see the finished product!
 
.... who would you recommend to play test these cues?

I am sure there are many qualified people on AZB that gladly test out your cues but based on previous reviews that I have seen I would recommend TATE or FAST_N_LOOSE. They have the knowledge and experience and seem to be unbiased and fair. Trustworthy too!
 
I love your attitude! Don't worry about the ridicule, every cue maker has to endure some of that. Besides, they're probably just jealous. :p

Roger

Thanks .... I can deal with critisisim ...man my spelling sucks. but to made fun of....I lost respect for some of them. see when I start I have no machines to make cues with. I mean not even a lathe I had to make a jig that utilized 4 angle bars screwed together with sand paper on the inside and hand turned it down to taper ... I made all the tools myself and then eventually I was able to sell enough cues to buy a cue companion then a lathe. now saving up for an inlay machine.... man do I have ideas.... I had to figure everything myself like I know how to cut the points on a full spice but not the angle required to make the forearm fit........... but my dad said scr#w them all son and enjoy your youth cause when you get as old as some of them you can be great. and things aren't handed down to you like some youthful makers out there. It made me open my eyes and that's why I say .... satisfy the player not the competition..
 
Thanks .... I can deal with critisisim ...man my spelling sucks. but to made fun of....I lost respect for some of them. see when I start I have no machines to make cues with. I mean not even a lathe I had to make a jig that utilized 4 angle bars screwed together with sand paper on the inside and hand turned it down to taper ... I made all the tools myself and then eventually I was able to sell enough cues to buy a cue companion then a lathe. now saving up for an inlay machine.... man do I have ideas.... I had to figure everything myself like I know how to cut the points on a full spice but not the angle required to make the forearm fit........... but my dad said scr#w them all son and enjoy your youth cause when you get as old as some of them you can be great. and things aren't handed down to you like some youthful makers out there. It made me open my eyes and that's why I say .... satisfy the player not the competition..

Wow! Now I"M jealous! :eek:

You, sir, are what I would call a real cue maker. Keep up the good work.

Roger

p.s. Also keep listening to your dad; he's a very wise man. ;)
 
Wow! Now I"M jealous! :eek:

You, sir, are what I would call a real cue maker. Keep up the good work.

Roger

p.s. Also keep listening to your dad; he's a very wise man. ;)
thanks will you be at the gem city classic.... if so I can put something aside for you to look at and test.
 
If I were anywhere near the midwest I'd certainly go to the show, if only to meet you and shake your hand. You have a fantastic attitude which is refreshing in this day and age. Of course I would love to see your product in person as well, the photo's look amazing.

Good luck, though I don't belive you will need it by the looks of your work and your attitude. I wish you well. And I look forward to seeing and hearing more about your cues as time goes by. Please continue to keep us posted on your progress, and your success!

P.S. Once you get caught up somewhat, you might consider doing a raffle for one of your cues here at AZB. LP Custom Cues does one every so often, which will generate some quick cash for you as opposed to a full-out sale. His raffles sell out in a day or two tops, the one he started at 7AM today is almost half full already. And it's another way to show off your stuff here to people actively looking for cues. (That, and I'd love to have a chance at one, heh heh. :D )
 
If I were anywhere near the midwest I'd certainly go to the show, if only to meet you and shake your hand. You have a fantastic attitude which is refreshing in this day and age. Of course I would love to see your product in person as well, the photo's look amazing.

Good luck, though I don't belive you will need it by the looks of your work and your attitude. I wish you well. And I look forward to seeing and hearing more about your cues as time goes by. Please continue to keep us posted on your progress, and your success!

P.S. Once you get caught up somewhat, you might consider doing a raffle for one of your cues here at AZB. LP Custom Cues does one every so often, which will generate some quick cash for you as opposed to a full-out sale. His raffles sell out in a day or two tops, the one he started at 7AM today is almost half full already. And it's another way to show off your stuff here to people actively looking for cues. (That, and I'd love to have a chance at one, heh heh. :D )
how do I do this? how to get started? do I do it myself ....
 
Since you PM's me for an opinion, here's what I think. I like the concept. I think it's bold and it may catch on.

I think you have a lot more creativity on it's way too.

There is something that strikes me as a way of making it better. The points that have the unfinished or missing veneers stand out as incomplete and change the depth or layers of the design. The butterflys of the same wood don't add depth to the points.

My suggestion would be to use the points as a foreground - these should stand in contrast to the butterflys. So the points should be bold, with the most attractive wood and either completely bordered or completely unbordered - or they sink into the canvas.

The butterflys, then, would enhance the points and give them depth.You can vary the butterfly wood and length to balance the design as well, so shorter points, for example, might have longer butterflys.

Viewed in layers, the points are the foreground, the butterflys are the middle, and the background is the rest of the cue.

This painting below, I think did an incredible job of using subtle effects to create depth.

I'm also going to post a pic of Dave Barrenbrugge's cues which use butterfly points to create a fantastic display of depth and beauty.

Chris
 

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Mr. Brian

I guess i would like to first say thanks for your input and comment. Second I am really disconnected from the cue world in itself. See I live in a town called moselle ms where my neighbors are my cows. I'm talking about it's so country that the most fun you could have is to run from one end of the field to the other without stepping on crap. I am not around many cues except for meucci and player cues.... Those are what is common in small town bars. I don't get out much and I don't buy much cues. I stay at home with my two kids sell cues and cows...... yes I said cows. So as far as being influenced by others the most culture I got from cues was at the valley forge 2009. I did sell everything I brought but was meet with many ridicule from other cue makes for my cues...one reason why I didn't make it to the 2010 forge. but I am influenced by my children and childrens drawing. And My FATHER who I am very proud of he has always told me if I wanted to go into this business don't look at other peoples cue and pictures of cue so that you won't be tempted to do the same. if you happen to do something the same as someone it's better to be a coincdince than a copy of. as far as the ridicul I got I think it was uncalled for because I admired every cue I saw there cause I have never seen so much in one place and I told the cue makers there that I loved their cue....honestly... but they seem to take it different. O well .... who would you recommend to play test these cues?

The part I highlighted in Green (selling all of your wares) is much more important than the part in red (other cuemakers' ridicule). Do what you like and if there's a market for it, who cares if your competitors try to make fun? Cues look nice and it's good to see something different.

Cory
 
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The part I highlighted in Green (selling all of your wares) is much more than the part in red (other cuemakers' ridicule). Do what you like and if there's a market for it, who cares if your competitors try to make fun? Cues look nice and it's good to see something different.

Cory
didnt even realized what I wrote.... you see the redneck in me ozzing out to this forum...lol. thanks for the comments.....
 
To supplement my post above, here's a picture I took at ICCS cue show a few years ago - these are Dave Barrenbrugge's beautiful butterfly cues. To me, his cues show the perfect balance of design, contrast, and depth, while being totally unique in design. I think he's an artistic genius - his stuff blew me away.

Cues like this are no accident - I can't even imagine the trial and error Dave went though to come up with these magnificent works of art.


Chris
 

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ok..... there are alot of people who have been pming me and want to see these finished and in person ...how about this, if you think you might be interested in the cue and will be at the Gem City Classic, post up and I will bring what I can make but I want to tell you all that I might only be there for 1 day cause of funds but will make it nonetheless.... unless someone buys one more from me before then and I'll use that money to stay longer.... first person can get one for 550 for this purpose only and will be #14 but 1 of a kind due to wood combination. this would help me out there to stay longer and help pay for a babysitter for me kids. I live in Mississippi so this trip I can't bring my kids....who are 2 and 3. I wish everyone could be there who likes the pics to see the cues. first come first serve

I'll take it if the offer is still good. Send me a PM.
Cory
 
how do I do this? how to get started? do I do it myself ....

When you get a chance, go into the Wanted/For Sale section here, and then the Raffle section. Take a little while to read what's going on, and certainly read BigTrucks sticky at the top "Some Guidelines and Tips For A Smooth Raffle." You might also consider PMing some of the folks that run raffles there as well, for their suggestions on how to get started.

Don't rush into it, seems like you have a lot on your plate already, with plenty more demand on the way by the looks of this thread! And that's a good thing! :thumbup: But once you get the time to work it out, a raffle here might be another avenue of generating some quick cash AND spreading the word here as well.

This is fun, seeing all the responses you're getting. I run a business myself, so I enjoy seeing someone getting started that has enthusiasm, and plenty of potential for success. Again, best of luck with everything.
 
first off I must say that you did indeed come up with a pretty original design.

The only thing I question is the strength of the angled joining surfaces....I see you cored the cues but I wonder what sort of side hit or pressure it would take to break it....definately not knocking the work just interested in the capabilities of the technique?

Also did you use a compound miter saw to make the angled cuts or did you put the cue in a jig on a milling machine to match up (faceoff) the angles ?

amazing work you've done there its truly the newest most unique design I've seen in a minute!

keep up the good work,
-Grey Ghost-
 
first off I must say that you did indeed come up with a pretty original design.

The only thing I question is the strength of the angled joining surfaces....I see you cored the cues but I wonder what sort of side hit or pressure it would take to break it....definately not knocking the work just interested in the capabilities of the technique?

Also did you use a compound miter saw to make the angled cuts or did you put the cue in a jig on a milling machine to match up (faceoff) the angles ?

amazing work you've done there its truly the newest most unique design I've seen in a minute!

keep up the good work,
-Grey Ghost-

as for the angles I already thought of the sliding and the angles will not move I have secured them not just with a core but by other interior means ......... as far as strength of the cue I think it's strong enough. Miter hand saw not electrical saw..... they were cut on a jig with a miter HAND saw cause there seems to be more glue lines with a miter(electrical) saw and as far as a mill goes I don't have the means to use one of those yet.hand saw with a few minutes of sanding = less glue visibility
 
first off I must say that you did indeed come up with a pretty original design.

The only thing I question is the strength of the angled joining surfaces....I see you cored the cues but I wonder what sort of side hit or pressure it would take to break it....definately not knocking the work just interested in the capabilities of the technique?

Also did you use a compound miter saw to make the angled cuts or did you put the cue in a jig on a milling machine to match up (faceoff) the angles ?

amazing work you've done there its truly the newest most unique design I've seen in a minute!

keep up the good work,
-Grey Ghost-
also one more thing if you notice that the angels have their reverse angle along the cue it self to off set any type of side hit....... lot of thought into the cue....thanks for the question though... I appreciate it.
 
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