New Fields case for JB

RiverCity

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Newest case off the bench for Mr Case himself, John Barton.
It was an honor to be asked to build this one, I hope you enjoy it John!
This one features a new colored tooling that Im offering on my cases.






Thanks for looking!
Chuck
 
Class. That case is 100% pure class. Great job.
Thank you!,
Ive had a lot of people ask for some off the wall kind of stuff, but I wont do anything that I cant make look classy. Everybody has their own taste. but to me, understated and well made are the keys to a nice case. If somebody just wants a loud case, I can wrap a Porper in neon colored duct tape for them..... :eek::grin:
Funny story, I knew a guy who had a bright pink case, bright pink cue and bright pink glove. You would look at the guy and chuckle, but Ill tell you what, he was never at a loss getting action. :grin:
Very clean...classy looking case!
Thanks! Yours is next, Ive got the artwork about where I want it, and am starting on it in the next day or so!

Thanks again guys!
Chuck
 
The highlights are awesome. All class in the design but the blue gives it a nice flash.
 
Thanks Chuck, can't wait to get it and to see what you haven't shown yet. I am liking the position of customer getting a Christmas present for myself. I really love the blue and am glad you went with it.
 
Thanks Chuck, can't wait to get it and to see what you haven't shown yet. I am liking the position of customer getting a Christmas present for myself. I really love the blue and am glad you went with it.

Thanks John, I really hope you enjoy it when you get it. I utilize my wife to brainstorm ideas for logos etc, and I think she hit on a winner with yours.Ill post pics of the backstrap after its in your hands.
Hope the blue is indigo enough... :D
Chuck
 
Nice clean case.

Do you make cases without tubes?

Did not see that option on your website.
 
Nice work... Beautifull case...love the black n blue combination
Thank you sir!
Things are really exciting with all the Great Casemakers out there Now,,,!!!

Alan.
Thanks!

Nice clean case.

Do you make cases without tubes?

Did not see that option on your website.
Not at this. The weight difference is really not huge IMO. On my cases, due to how thick the leather is, the shell is heavier than the tubes.

nice work again!! love the blue contrast! :)

Brice
Thank you!
Chuck
 
Thank you sir!

Thanks!


Not at this. The weight difference is really not huge IMO. On my cases, due to how thick the leather is, the shell is heavier than the tubes.


Thank you!
Chuck

It looks great Chuck, John should be proud to own it! I'm with you on the tubes vs non tubed cases, the leather weight is just as big of factor as the interior. It's just hard to beat tube style cases in my opinion, they are tough as can be. I think I carried a 16 pound chainsaw up fence rows for to many years, I can't tell much difference in the weight of them, lol.
 
It looks great Chuck, John should be proud to own it! I'm with you on the tubes vs non tubed cases, the leather weight is just as big of factor as the interior. It's just hard to beat tube style cases in my opinion, they are tough as can be. I think I carried a 16 pound chainsaw up fence rows for to many years, I can't tell much difference in the weight of them, lol.

I have always felt that weight is more subjective than objective in cases. And I fully agree that people don't really understand how much leather weight comes into it. I was asked to make a lighter case for the Chinese/Taiwanese market by one of my dealers here. I said sure and was able to make a case that's 4.5lbs and still built as tight as we build any other case. But I wasn't able to do all the things we normally do because of having to shave weight. The biggest factor is that I had to go to a thinner weight of leather.

Fact is you can build a case that looks pretty at thin weights but for durability day in and day out you're better off with thicker leather unless you do something to beef up the thinner leathers.

It's up to each case maker to find the balance they and their customers are comfortable with.

Regarding tubes. Well it's like this, if there is tough plastic tubing all the way around a cue and that tubing is properly bundled then it's going to be super protective. In essence each part has it's own casing. But not all tubes are created equally. Schedule 40 plumbing tubing is tough. Thin walled clear poster tubing is not. You have to really stomp on plumbing tubing to break it - poster tubing can be crushed between your fingers. So to get REAL protection that individual tubes promises you have to use tubes that have some weight to them. No getting around it unless you happen to have a carbon fiber tube.

So the tradeoff IS always going to be weight for protection until one of us starts getting carbon fiber that's affordable. As case makers we are unfortunately too small to justify the cost and bring it any where close to what the market will pay. Of course there are always SOME customers who are willing to shell out an extra $200-$300 to have carbon fiber protection but the majority are not. And if it were merely a matter of being able to offer this as an option where I could buy ready made tubes I would already be offering it.

For me it's like this. Most of the time I carry my cues from the car to the pool room. So I can deal with the extra weight. If I am going to walk miles with my case then I do one of two things, either use comfortable straps that effectively distribute the weight or use a lighter case and mostly both. And I do happen to walk a lot with my case on my back.

So I think while weight is certainly a valid part of the conversation players need to know that lighter isn't always better when it comes to protection. They need to be aware of the tradeoffs and choose accordingly.
 
It looks great Chuck, John should be proud to own it! I'm with you on the tubes vs non tubed cases, the leather weight is just as big of factor as the interior. It's just hard to beat tube style cases in my opinion, they are tough as can be. I think I carried a 16 pound chainsaw up fence rows for to many years, I can't tell much difference in the weight of them, lol.
Thanks Rusty! Agreed, I'm a big guy and a couple of pounds isn't noticeable enough to even think about...lol I've always preferred tubes over soft interiors. And the thicker leather adds durability and lifespan to the case, I'm using 8/9 Hermann Oak, which should give decades worth of use if cared for.
I have always felt that weight is more subjective than objective in cases. And I fully agree that people don't really understand how much leather weight comes into it. I was asked to make a lighter case for the Chinese/Taiwanese market by one of my dealers here. I said sure and was able to make a case that's 4.5lbs and still built as tight as we build any other case. But I wasn't able to do all the things we normally do because of having to shave weight. The biggest factor is that I had to go to a thinner weight of leather.

Fact is you can build a case that looks pretty at thin weights but for durability day in and day out you're better off with thicker leather unless you do something to beef up the thinner leathers.

It's up to each case maker to find the balance they and their customers are comfortable with.

Regarding tubes. Well it's like this, if there is tough plastic tubing all the way around a cue and that tubing is properly bundled then it's going to be super protective. In essence each part has it's own casing. But not all tubes are created equally. Schedule 40 plumbing tubing is tough. Thin walled clear poster tubing is not. You have to really stomp on plumbing tubing to break it - poster tubing can be crushed between your fingers. So to get REAL protection that individual tubes promises you have to use tubes that have some weight to them. No getting around it unless you happen to have a carbon fiber tube.

So the tradeoff IS always going to be weight for protection until one of us starts getting carbon fiber that's affordable. As case makers we are unfortunately too small to justify the cost and bring it any where close to what the market will pay. Of course there are always SOME customers who are willing to shell out an extra $200-$300 to have carbon fiber protection but the majority are not. And if it were merely a matter of being able to offer this as an option where I could buy ready made tubes I would already be offering it.

For me it's like this. Most of the time I carry my cues from the car to the pool room. So I can deal with the extra weight. If I am going to walk miles with my case then I do one of two things, either use comfortable straps that effectively distribute the weight or use a lighter case and mostly both. And I do happen to walk a lot with my case on my back.

So I think while weight is certainly a valid part of the conversation players need to know that lighter isn't always better when it comes to protection. They need to be aware of the tradeoffs and choose accordingly.
It really is subjective. The case I built for you with the leather I use, 2 pockets, shoulder strap and pad weighs about 7.5 lbs, the same case with no pockets or shoulder strap is about 6.5 lbs. The difference in tube weight vs a fabric/padding interior would equate to about the same weight as 2 pockets and strap/pad give or take a couple tip tools and that's about it.... Lol
Carbon fiber would be the way to go, but like you say, most people would never pay the cost of the tubes.
Great points John, well said.
He has a habit of that..... Lol
Chuck
 
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