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Excuse my ignorance, but why would an aluminum dovetail with brass gibbs need to be lapped? The fit should be tested & tuned (if need be) by the manufacturer, and ready for use. The buyer should know how to tune the machine to his liking & know how to keep it in that condition. The gibbs should be able to be tightened enough to lock the carriage, or else they are useless as a tuning tool, and you are screwed when the wear goes to the point of too much slop. The beds are made of anodized aluminum, meaning they are surface hardened. I wouldn't recommend anybody using an abrasive to lap the bed. Chris Hightower sells lathes every day that don't have issues of the carriage locking up, nor requires sanding the bed down to get smooth movement. If Bassel's bed is made exactly like the bed that Taig supplies Hightower with, then it should work just as well. Not to mention, there's likely a copyright issue with exactly copying Taig's design. My guess is that Bassel's beds are not as precise as Taig's, and likely are not anodized after machining to harden, stiffen the surface. Anybody who knows metal working should realize raw aluminum on raw aluminum is begging for trouble. By anodizing the bed, it eliminates the grabby nature of aluminum to lock to itself.

But like he said, he's getting away from Taig style parts so maybe he'll do what's right & admit that the lathe he sold Snipershot is defective & offer to make it right, not just beat around the bush with offering band-aid remedies. I'd personally be pissed and requesting a return/refund so I could buy a proven machine. Bassel may be genuinely wanting to learn how to build better machines, but he's doing it on the pocket book of innocent buyers that believe his BS when he gives the sales pitch. Fact is he knows the machines aren't right but he's making money on them anyway. Eventually he may actually be producing a machine worthy of dependable cue work. But what's with all the people who were used to fund it & pay for him to learn? They're stuck with his useless experiments, his science projects. Why does that seem ethically incorrect to me? Inventors use their own money or get investors who know that they are gambling. That's how it works. An engineer should know the ropes. But it's not how this played out. So either the guy knew he'd be screwing folks, or else was so arrogant that he believed his work couldn't fail. Hey, I like Bassel. Nice dude & seems ambitious. But wrong is wrong.
Eric
Just to clear couple of things up, first there is no copy rights violated with my dovetail, 2 years ago Taig's owner willingly faxed me the CAD drawings and the U-channel drawing and told me to buy my own extrusion die locally, cause it would be too expensive to buy directly from them all the way in Arizona. Secondly I am confident that all my cue repair lathe are just as good as the competition, and so is my cue building lathes, the other thing is most of my design changes are to the cue building lathe, because being as good as the competition is not good enough for me, I want it to be far better. Lastly what you don't know that everyone who bought cue building lathe was told upfront that I will continue improving the design, and they would get all minor improvements for free and only pay my cost for any major improvement if they choose to upgrade, I am always extremely fair with my customers, and always offer extra discounts for without them asking for it especially if they call back for extra accessories.
Like I said before, I am not making those machines to get rich, I do it for the challenge and to come out with the best cue building lathe ever made, I am very ambitious and I have a very open Mind and easily motivated to build a better machine. But you completely wrong to say that buying a lathe from me is complete waist of money, so I use my sales and profit to come up with new designs and build new machines, I don't think there is anything wrong with that, I consider my self a very honest man and I never screwed anyone over, but I did get screwed by at least 3 or 4 customers who took advantage of me. There has been couple of set backs, with the sanding mandrels, but it all almost done with. I don't advertise everyday like others do, in fact I haven't listed anything in the for sale section in over a year, people call me and want to buy a lathe from me, cause I am honest and I price my machines fairly and I give great customer support. But in this case Joe kept on refusing my suggestions and asking for a newly designed carriage, which wasn't done yet. I have nothing but great repect for you Eric, and you are entitled to your opinion, but I have so many greatful customers, that always compliment me for my lathes.
Regards
 
Seriously man? You don't remember telling me on the phone that the design of the carriage was flawed because the handwheel was too far back? I remember it vividly. Also, I never gave you any kind of time frame for a new carriage. He'll, I've been waiting months for you to resolve these things. II was waiting patiently on your new design and the next thing I know, you back peddled and sent me a little piece of delrin instead. The $50 was what I wasted on upgrading to a 1/2hp motor, which you said you were going to change. The reason I didn't ship your old controller back was because YOU told me to wait and send it back after you sent me my new smaller 1/3hp headstock and controller, remember? I remember it clearly.
Joe
I remember, but the one part that you are missing, is that the carriage is made by taig not me, it's the same exact carriage everyone else uses, the flow that I told you was just my opinion on the taig carriage, and it's hard to adjust, because when you turn the hand wheel with it being on the end, the turning generates a torque to some how slightly twist the carraige, and if there is a gap it will bind, that has nothing to do with my lathe bed, or dovetail. I am making new carriages from the ground up, and I will still swap yours for free, as for the motor exchange, the motor issue is something out of my control, I can't predict how long it will last, I use to buy them from Penn state industries, and I don't anymore because their controllers are junk. I offered to swap the motor, cause I know my motor is much more reliable, I have sold 55 of my 1/3hp motors with zero returns.
Dont forget that I charged you $1200 for a lathe that I usually sell for $1499, and now you are trying to make a big deal swapping the motor out.
Like I said before, and I am sorry you misunderstood what i meant about the carraige. There is no defect with the lathe, or the carriage, but it is hard to tweak right just like everyone else has stated, please accept the bottle of lube and the delrin gib for now, and once the new carriages are made I will send you one. As for the pennstate motor, you will need to make up your mind on wether you want to keep that motor or exchange it
I will do what ever it takes to make your lathe work right, I just can't help you if you are not willing to try them out.
Regards
 
You are 100% correct about me knowing nothing about lathes when i got this one, i cant argue that at all. And im not picking a fight with you, but my problems drilling/boring a straight hole should be understandable considering my absolute ignorance, and thats why i asked for help. Im not too proud to swallow my pride and admit i dont know everything. As for comparing it to a metal lathe, well, thats not ever going to happen. I know the differences are drastic. You are also correct about my friend laughing at my toy lathe. With all that said though, it still doesnt change the fact that the lathe had serious issues before it shipped out, and whether he admits it here or not, i remember bassel admitting that in one of our first phone conversations. And like i said in a previous post, i didnt ship the original broken controller back because Bassel told me to wait and send it and my old headstock back after i got the new one so that i wouldnt have to go without my lathe. seriously man, what on earth would i want a broken controller for? Im the farthest thing from a scammer you will ever meet, but i have been scammed a couple times and still remember how i felt, but there is no way im ever going to scam Bassel.

Joe
Joe
Put all things aside. It will be so much easier for me to swap out the mounting bracket and motor on your headstock than trying to send you a new one, just ship it USPS and make sure I receive it on a Friday, and I will ship it back with a new motor no later than Monday, also send back the carriage too, I will swap that out for you if you want, but after reading all those posts, I am almost certain that the spur gear moving in and out might be causing some of the binding. You have to make sure there is no play in or out with that.
And I will also pay for your shipping cost. It was never my intentions to keep you hanging, but your unwillingnes to try my special lube and the dalrin gib put a stop for my emails.
Regards
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Seriously man? You don't remember telling me on the phone that the design of the carriage was flawed because the handwheel was too far back? I remember it vividly. Also, I never gave you any kind of time frame for a new carriage. He'll, I've been waiting months for you to resolve these things. II was waiting patiently on your new design and the next thing I know, you back peddled and sent me a little piece of delrin instead. The $50 was what I wasted on upgrading to a 1/2hp motor, which you said you were going to change. The reason I didn't ship your old controller back was because YOU told me to wait and send it back after you sent me my new smaller 1/3hp headstock and controller, remember? I remember it clearly.
Joe
I remember, but the one part that you are missing, is that the carriage is made by taig not me, it's the same exact carriage everyone else uses, the flow that I told you was just my opinion on the taig carriage, and it's hard to adjust, because when you turn the hand wheel with it being on the end, the turning generates a torque to some how slightly twist the carraige, and if there is a gap it will bind, that has nothing to do with my lathe bed, or dovetail. I am making new carriages from the ground up, and I will still swap yours for free, as for the motor exchange, the motor issue is something out of my control, I can't predict how long it will last, I use to buy them from Penn state industries, and I don't anymore because their controllers are junk. I offered to swap the motor, cause I know my motor is much more reliable, I have sold 55 of my 1/3hp motors with zero returns.
Dont forget that I charged you $1200 for a lathe that I usually sell for $1499, and now you are trying to make a big deal swapping the motor out.
Like I said before, and I am sorry you misunderstood what i meant about the carraige. There is no defect with the lathe, or the carriage, but it is hard to tweak right just like everyone else has stated, please accept the bottle of lube and the delrin gib for now, and once the new carriages are made I will send you one. As for the pennstate motor, you will need to make up your mind on wether you want to keep that motor or exchange it
I will do what ever it takes to make your lathe work right, I just can't help you if you are not willing to try them out.
Regards

See, this is what irritates me. You tell me one thing on the phone, but then you spin it around when the story goes public. Dont worry, i havent forgot how much i paid for your lathe, i will never forget this one. I never refused any help you offered until you tried to tell me your lube was the answer, i did exactly as you asked. I already tried the delrin gib, and it made no difference. Ill try to lube, no biggie, but my hopes are pretty low. As far as the motors go, i still have the email where you put in big bright letters "highly reccomended" after the 1/2hp upgrade, and shortly after i got my lathe and called you with these problems you were very irritated with the motors because you said you have had numerous complaints and you were going to stop selling them. So even with all the complaints, it was still "highly reccomended" for an extra fifty bucks. I doubt you will ever see that how you sold it to me was wrong, and i hope for your business' sake that you get your act together, because if continue doing business like this, your market will dry up. Let me know when you recieve your broken controller i mailed out. Good luck to you.

Joe
 
Joe,
I had problems with the same motor and Bassel replaced it. I had to buy another motor and still have it... Bought it from PennState and I am still waiting for the replacement. Not taking anybodies sides... Just saying... I know he will make it right.


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See, this is what irritates me. You tell me one thing on the phone, but then you spin it around when the story goes public. Dont worry, i havent forgot how much i paid for your lathe, i will never forget this one. I never refused any help you offered until you tried to tell me your lube was the answer, i did exactly as you asked. I already tried the delrin gib, and it made no difference. Ill try to lube, no biggie, but my hopes are pretty low. As far as the motors go, i still have the email where you put in big bright letters "highly reccomended" after the 1/2hp upgrade, and shortly after i got my lathe and called you with these problems you were very irritated with the motors because you said you have had numerous complaints and you were going to stop selling them. So even with all the complaints, it was still "highly reccomended" for an extra fifty bucks. I doubt you will ever see that how you sold it to me was wrong, and i hope for your business' sake that you get your act together, because if continue doing business like this, your market will dry up. Let me know when you recieve your broken controller i mailed out. Good luck to you.

Joe

I only recommended the motor, cause you said you wanted to eventually convert the lathe for a cue building lathe, and needed more torque. I still think that the 1/2 hp Penn state motor is a great motor, the only issue it the dam controller don't last. I am trying to help and you are turning me down, second the lube that I got is no ordinary lube, I garantee it will make it a lot better, and the offer for the motor still stands, and just that we are clear you are turning my offer down. How about the new carraige, do you still want one when they are finished?
Thanks
 
Over the span of designing it, I was keeping up with your crash test dummy, Tony. I was monitoring his comments about his machine. I decided the machines were faulty & needed refinement, and put off buying anything.

One of the things I admire in you Eric is your work ethic and character... And every single word you spoke transpires the truth, no matter how it hurts on my neck of the woods.
I wasted so much wood, patience and frustration that there are no words to describe it.
At the end of the day, Bassel gave me the final fix for the problem after 4 or 5 months of testing and spinning my wheels. The fix worked but I had no more patience or desire to be a crash test dummy.
I like Bassel a lot and for what I have seen in Vegas and seeing the new setup for his CustomCueLathe I was very impressed. I know that now he is on a good road. Maybe I might come back to him for more stuff.
I have another road to follow now with a CNC, a taper shaper, metal lathe, Deco Cue taper bar setup (bad s setup btw) and for tips and ferrule repairs with a MicroMark lathe.
However during my dealings with Bassel he always made it right and he probably lost money with me trying to get his cue building lathe working correctly, at the time was too late since I had my mind in another direction.
It would have been be wiser to follow your advices Eric, in this case and another ones as well, if you know what I mean. Learned my lesson, the hard way.
You're are right Eric, Bassel is a good dude.
 
Bassel, let me make this simple. You are selling machines to people who believe you when you tell them how much better your machines are than the competition, and cheaper. You do this knowing that the machines have troubles. You bought inventory, have a stock, and are selling it even though you know it's defective. You don't disclose any of this knowledge before the sale, only admit that there's a problem when confronted about it. And in the public forum, you attempt to totally squeeze out of it by turning things around & actually revert to blaming your customers & insulting their intelligence. I called a spade a spade. It is what it is.

Now you gotta wonder why I even care, why I even bother posting in threads like this. Well, it shouldn't be a surprise to you, no matter how baffled you appear to be. Who were you calling for advice & help when you had no clue? Who took the time to explain things to you via phone calls? I even seriously considered buying a machine, as i'm sure you recall. Over the span of designing it, I was keeping up with your crash test dummy, Tony. I was monitoring his comments about his machine. I decided the machines were faulty & needed refinement, and put off buying anything. You offered deals & sales & "don't tell anybody but i'll give you this price". I'm no spring chicken & don't bite on sales pitches. It actually kinda bothered me that after all the help, time, and all the fighting with Brianna in your defense, that you were trying so hard to make me a customer when I was actually being your friend in a world when nobody was your friend. It wasn't until later, when I found out that you knew the machines were having trouble, that I realized that those problems stemmed back to before you were trying to sell me a machine. That means you were trying to sell me a machine when you knew your design had issues. You were trying to make me a crash test dummy, and wanting me to pay for it. But still, I kept quiet. I had heard in private about issues & they all sounded very similar to one another, which tells me that the problems aren't erratic or random, but consistent. So when I see this thread where it's being discussed, I realize that you're still selling faulty equipment without disclosing the faults up front, so I chime in my $.02. I call a spade a spade. So don't act surprised. You know what i'm talking about, even if nobody else does. It's not that I don't like you or wish bad things on you. Not at all. I'm disappointed. I don't know if I screwed up by putting faith into you, or if you're actually a good guy making bad decisions. I don't know. I feel like you're a good dude. But we obviously don't see eye to eye on how to handle your product. You just don't push product that you know is faulty. There's no way around it. It's not even a grey area, not for me. I took it personally, as i'm sure the others do. And I didn't even spend money. Undoubtedly they feel like they were ripped off & lost money. You offend your customers by insulting their intelligence, then offer fixes here in public but they dispute it & say it's totally different on the phone. I can relate to that because you know me via phone conversations yet here in public talk to me like i'm misunderstanding things. You are gonna let your customers, the people who give you money, look like idiots in public so you can save face in hopes of acquiring new customers. That's precisely why i'm not a customer. Good people goof up. It happens. What is done to correct it is what makes the difference.

And your watch dog can go do what dogs do best and go lick himself, instead of wasting time sending me PM's full of insults & ignorance. He needs some suspenders to keep his big boy britches on if he's gonna bark like that.

Eric
I am not sure why you have that opinion of me, at the time that you called, you were the one who asked for a tapering lathe, I gave you a price and never bugged you about it again, and here you say I kept on trying to push a sale on you.
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I have no idea who you are referring to that sent you a nasty PM
Third, you keep on mixing up between repair lathes and cue building lathes, I have never had any issues with my repair lathes, the stuff that I was working on improving is the cue building lathe, and I know I did, cause every one who has one is happy with it.
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It's funny how you contradict yourself when you said that if the carriage is not properly aligned and lubes it will tend to bind, that a known issue.
If you want to know more about my intensive testing and studies for carriage binding, it will be all explained in the thread for my new carriage, which will be posted soon.
I don't sell defective lathes as you clam, and as for the tapering lathe you asked me for, I was going to give it to you at valley forge last march, but unfortunately I didn't have time to get it ready.
I am tiered of you saying that I sell defective lathe when your only basing this on one person, what about the other 50 customers who bought my lathes, I have already received 7 pm's from my customers telling me to ignore your posts and not bother reply.
Please stop with your assumptions, when non of them has been right so far.
I don't have a bunch of taig parts that I am trying to get rid off, nor am I trying to push out bad machines. And the only reason I claim my machines are better is all based on my customers feedback, I have never bought a Hightower lathe or a unique lathe or a Todd lathe, and I wouldn't discredit any of them, I just post based on my customers feedback.
Finally the dam carriage that taig makes is not defective, it works great on taigs ground steel dovetail, but when used on anodized aluminum it's not that great and much harder to tweak.
Erin please if you have a problem with me personally just say it.
The phone conversation we had was very educational for me, and for that I am thankful, but for you to say that I was trying to push a sale on you is not correct, I even said I wasn't sure how long it would take to build cause I was and still backed upon orders. Eric
I have no beef with you, like I said before, you are entitled to your opinion, but you have gotten the wrong impression about me, I won't try to change your mind, but I will keep doing what I am doing and soon my lathes will change your opinion about me "I hope"
Have a good night.
Regards
 
I only recommended the motor, cause you said you wanted to eventually convert the lathe for a cue building lathe, and needed more torque. I still think that the 1/2 hp Penn state motor is a great motor, the only issue it the dam controller don't last. I am trying to help and you are turning me down, second the lube that I got is no ordinary lube, I garantee it will make it a lot better, and the offer for the motor still stands, and just that we are clear you are turning my offer down. How about the new carraige, do you still want one when they are finished?
Thanks
Ok, now how in the sam hell did you interpret anything I said into me refusing your offer to fix anything? Do I still want the new carriage? Seriously? Man thats what ive been patiently waiting on this whole time! Of course I want you to fix it.

Joe
 
Ok, now how in the sam hell did you interpret anything I said into me refusing your offer to fix anything? Do I still want the new carriage? Seriously? Man thats what ive been patiently waiting on this whole time! Of course I want you to fix it.

Joe

Joe
No problem, you will be the first to get one, and I am certain that you will have no more binding. The new carriage will be adaptable to any taig based lathe, like Tony have stated, it took forever, but eventually I always make it right, even if it means loosing money, but I have to stress the fact the the brass spur gear can not move in and out, it has to ride on the center of the leads crew at all times, I will take a picture of the way it should be setup and email it to you. And I guarantee that you will be blown away with how good the lubricant I am sending you works, it's not something you could buy of the shelf, this was specially developed for similar application.
And like John said, let's just start over on a new note, and forget the he said she said crap.

Best Regards
 
I figured I'd chime in real quick on all this because some things just need to be said when people don't have a clue. First of all, the lube Bassell sells is freakin awesome. I almost laughed at him when he told me to try it out to fix some of my binding problems! Turns out, it works really well! Second of all, we all know Bassell took a Taig lathe and created the cue lathes he sells today. Most of the people in this forum that know him or read his posts also know that spends a lot of his time trying to come up with new ideas to fix the inherent flaws that go along with the Taig based lathes or design a better product. I use his lathe everyday. Honestly, from the time I originally bought my 1st one from him a year ago, there is a day and night difference, either because of the help he's given to set it up right or minor upgrades to make it right. But either way, Bassell made it work for me the way that it should. A lathe doesn't require rocket science to use, building a cue in a lot of respects does. These lathes will work correct if its set up correct. The question is, if you have no experience with these lathes, whats correct to you might not be correct at all. I know this cause I spent the better 1/2 of a weekend turning set screws to get it set up the way I thought it should be, to find out that it wasn't gonna work very well that way! My point being is, if it's been working for everyone else, then maybe "it" isn't all of the problem.
 
I figured I'd chime in real quick on all this because some things just need to be said when people don't have a clue. First of all, the lube Bassell sells is freakin awesome. I almost laughed at him when he told me to try it out to fix some of my binding problems! Turns out, it works really well! Second of all, we all know Bassell took a Taig lathe and created the cue lathes he sells today. Most of the people in this forum that know him or read his posts also know that spends a lot of his time trying to come up with new ideas to fix the inherent flaws that go along with the Taig based lathes or design a better product. I use his lathe everyday. Honestly, from the time I originally bought my 1st one from him a year ago, there is a day and night difference, either because of the help he's given to set it up right or minor upgrades to make it right. But either way, Bassell made it work for me the way that it should. A lathe doesn't require rocket science to use, building a cue in a lot of respects does. These lathes will work correct if its set up correct. The question is, if you have no experience with these lathes, whats correct to you might not be correct at all. I know this cause I spent the better 1/2 of a weekend turning set screws to get it set up the way I thought it should be, to find out that it wasn't gonna work very well that way! My point being is, if it's been working for everyone else, then maybe "it" isn't all of the problem.
Well, im glad your lathe works like its supposed to. I dont know if you have read the whole thread or not, but i have stated several times tnat i am not the only one who thought my lathe was not right. And you can set your lathe up for a month if you like, but if the motor shuts off after running for 15 seconds, then you aint going to be able to do anything. I appreciate you reminding me of how ignorant i am, but i already know this, that is why i ask my dumb questions and get to learn. Im going to try the lube just like i said. I have a lot of cash in this lathe, so i dont just wanna throw it out, so i will do (as i have been doing) all that Bassel asks of me to try and fix it. Have a good one.

Joe
 
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