New TV Pool Game

Johnnyt

Johnnyt

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NEW TV GAME


The game is called YOU PLAY THE TABLE, or whatever. There will be at least 100 each different patterns for each of the games of 9-ball, 8-ball, and 15-ball rotation.

Player (A) picks a game and a number from 1 to 100. The host, Jeanette Lee (?) punches in the game type and the pattern number picked by player (A) at which time shows up on a screen for the people at home to see. Have a good- looking referee place the balls out in that pattern on the real table.

Now player (A) has Five Minutes to run out the table with ball in hand in 9-ball. Each of the hundreds of patterns will have at least one cluster of balls (trouble spots). So you have a ticking clock=urgency, and at least one problem for the player to solve/overcome to run all nine out before the time runs out.

Rotation would be the same rules as 9-ball, but eight minutes to run them and more points than the 9-ball.

Eight ball five minutes. BIH. Player must run all of either solids or stripes before making the eight. After the eight he must run the remaining balls in any order, but all in under five minutes, and of course there will be clusters/problem spots which the host can point out to the people at home before he or she starts their run. This way TV audience is watching the player pocketing balls, the clusters/trouble spots, and the ticking clock.

Then player (B) picks his game and the number pattern he will have to run in the allotted time frame.

This is not set in stone. The cement is still far from dry. Johnnyt
 
A while ago I was thinking that something similar to this might be useful for getting pool into the Olympics because if everyone has to shoot the same layouts, then there wouldn't be a "luck" factor involved. Just a thought.
 
This sounds pretty interesting and exciting. I could be the good looking referee placing the balls for the pattern.
 
Nostroke said:
Wasnt there a similar tournament about 18 months ago that Max won?
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If there was I didn't see or hear about it. I put this same idea on AZ over two years ago and got very little feedback on it. I'm not looking for any credit for it or make any money on it. I just would like to see some form of pool on TV before I croak. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
NEW TV GAME


The game is called YOU PLAY THE TABLE, or whatever. There will be at least 100 each different patterns for each of the games of 9-ball, 8-ball, and 15-ball rotation.

Player (A) picks a game and a number from 1 to 100. The host, Jeanette Lee (?) punches in the game type and the pattern number picked by player (A) at which time shows up on a screen for the people at home to see. Have a good- looking referee place the balls out in that pattern on the real table.

Now player (A) has Five Minutes to run out the table with ball in hand in 9-ball. Each of the hundreds of patterns will have at least one cluster of balls (trouble spots). So you have a ticking clock=urgency, and at least one problem for the player to solve/overcome to run all nine out before the time runs out.

Rotation would be the same rules as 9-ball, but eight minutes to run them and more points than the 9-ball.

Eight ball five minutes. BIH. Player must run all of either solids or stripes before making the eight. After the eight he must run the remaining balls in any order, but all in under five minutes, and of course there will be clusters/problem spots which the host can point out to the people at home before he or she starts their run. This way TV audience is watching the player pocketing balls, the clusters/trouble spots, and the ticking clock.

Then player (B) picks his game and the number pattern he will have to run in the allotted time frame.

This is not set in stone. The cement is still far from dry. Johnnyt
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Sounds like a great concept Johnny. I can see you gave it considerable thought. Hope people will respond with various suggestions to fine tune it.
I will certainly give it some thought and add my .02. Sounds like it would work with almost any game, sort of like playing against the "ghost" but much more competitive. Great Idea. ! :thumbup:

Dick

PS. I'll bet Jay Helfert could offer some good input.
 
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"Sounds like a great concept Johnny. I can see you gave it considerable thought. Hope people will respond with various suggestions to fine tune it.
I will certainly give it some thought and add my .02. Sounds like it would work with almost any game, sort of like playing against a "ghost" but much more competitive. Great Idea. !

Dick"

Thanks Dick. That's what I wanted, some tweaking. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
If there was I didn't see or hear about it. I put this same idea on AZ over two years ago and got very little feedback on it. I'm not looking for any credit for it or make any money on it. I just would like to see some form of pool on TV before I croak. Johnnyt
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I like it especially the random feature. I think the one Max won had fixed layouts for everyone.
 
The clock and the trouble spot/cluster is a must. That I wouldn't take out. Johnnyt
 
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Hosted by Jeanette or our azb friend Joe Rogan, awesome, it could work.

Are you ready for th challenge Joe ?


highrun55
 
If a few of you AZers that have a table at home could try some random patterns out with the problem spot and the clock to see if it's hard enough for a pro it would be a big help. I don't have a table anymore and really can't play well anymore. Johnnyt
 
I think that this is a very nice concept. If you don't let player (a) see how player (b) shoots his pattern out and both shoot the same pattern, and both using the clock an how many shots they might have missed or how many shots it took them to run the pattern out as a scoring method this could work. Would love to see some of the patterns AZ'rs come up with.
 
Hey Johnny,

What about we get Lenny or Matt to do the filming and run it on youtube. It would blowup there and most of the people are 18 to 34. Perfect group to bring the game to, to make it progress.

Just sayin'

Dwight
 
mreightball said:
I think that this is a very nice concept. If you don't let player (a) see how player (b) shoots his pattern out and both shoot the same pattern, and both using the clock an how many shots they might have missed or how many shots it took them to run the pattern out as a scoring method this could work. Would love to see some of the patterns AZ'rs come up with.
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Thank you. I was leaning to they both shoot the same pattern also. Johnnyt
 
BigDogatLarge said:
Hey Johnny,

What about we get Lenny or Matt to do the filming and run it on youtube. It would blowup there and most of the people are 18 to 34. Perfect group to bring the game to, to make it progress.

Just sayin'

Dwight
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That would be great, as I said I wouldn't care who ran with this and got it on TV. I'm old and have enough money. If I didn't I would have copyrighted it before putting it on here.

Lenny and the other streamers are busy running around all over the place. I would never ask them to do that for free. Now if someone did it at home and put it on the tube it would be great. Johnnyt
 
I really never made up my mind if these should be pro players or just good players that e-mail the show with a video of themselves shooting pool to try to get on it. Johnnyt
 
I just came back from a friends house that has a table. He's a good solid B player and he tried 6 different patterns in 9-ball and couldn't run 1. He said I made it too hard with the five minute shot clock. I said that's 33 seconds a ball, I just think your having problems running the balls out. He got pissed, so I said thanks and left.

Anyone else get a chance to try it yet? Johnnyt
 
Ideas that might be useful:

Both players play the same pattern. Can B do better than A??

Show both players on a split screen. In today's world multitasking is the rage.

Set a particular problem on the last x balls but have the prior balls randomly distributed. How do you get out of this problem.

Vanna White walks across the floor with the current score -- whoops.
 
JoeW said:
Ideas that might be useful:

Both players play the same pattern. Can B do better than A??

Show both players on a split screen. In today's world multitasking is the rage.

Set a particular problem on the last x balls but have the prior balls randomly distributed. How do you get out of this problem.

Vanna White walks across the floor with the current score -- whoops.
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I agree both players same pattern.

Split screen I'm not sure if the mainstream crowd could follow...but the TV folks will love it because it's half as much time.

You mean by having the problem being the last ball there will be more drama? Johnnyt
 
Your idea is solid, JohnnyT, and is a step in the direction of making pool more like tournament bridge. In tournament bridge, the hands are dealt and then every single partnership gets to play the same cards, which are replaced after every hand to ensure that the cards dealt to every partnership are the same. Each partnership gets to play every hand once. This tournament format, known as duplicate bridge, means that at the end of a tournament, nobody can complain that they got bad cards, as they got the exact same cards as everybody else.

The duplicate bridge form of nine ball, interpreted literally, would work like this. Let's say there are fifteen competitors in a tournament. They go to fifteen different tables and each breaks a rack of nine ball, someow marking the finishing position of every ball so that it can be duplicated over and over, spotting the nine if it happens to go in. Then, they try to beat the ghost in that rack starting with ball in hand. If they do, they earn a point. After everybody has completed their attempt to beat the ghost in the rack they have broken, the balls are replaced to where they finished after the original break, and every entrant moves one table along, attempting the new rack encountered. After fifteen rounds, each player will have attempted to beat the ghost for each of the fifteen original layouts, and the winner is the player running the most tables.
 
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