Newer trends vs. "old school"

At 68 I guess I would be an old timer and I like it. Probably the best time of my life for relaxation and just kicking back and enjoying life. Rude people are boring so I simply don’t play with them or even talk to them. At my age I have learned a few things in life that can be useful to others.

I think the jerks in life do not realize that there is a lot they can learn from some of the older polite guys and the rude people are the losers. Several times a week I simply walk away, shut up or ignore the often young and stupid player.

He usually doesn’t realize that I am laughing at his stupidity, arrogance, and generally rude behavior. The last thing he is going to get is a game with me. It is a shame, he misses the fun we have, the shared times the rest of us have and the simple joy of playing the dozens yet having respect for each other.

The young and stupid miss a lot in life and that is as it should be.

Enjoyed your post, fattys retort to this type of person, Imbicile, ''they can teach you allot, do just the opposite''.
Many ''poolplayers'' don't realize when your gambling/at whatever amt level, your developing a relationship and gambling is business. Why would anyone want to do business with someone that's an idiot or a jerk, unless you could put em in a spot to exploit their $$$$$$$$$$$$$, but at my age I could care less about the score, as I've more respect of the game than I do of anothers cash. I'd much rather lose $500 to someone whom I enjoy being around and playing with than win $10 off an idiot like you've described. The only thing wrong with idiots, lawyers and them helping an idiots get their way.
 
Yep, seems that some of the young don’t realize that we (older guys) often have more money than we need and don’t feel the pressure of a “higher” bet. And like you I would rather enjoy myself and lose a little more to a polite player. The jerk doesn’t get the opportunity to get in my pocket. I just don’t need the aggravation.

Fortunately most of us realize that we too were young and stupid so it is often just a matter of waiting for them to grow a little.
 
We survived match-fixing in Vegas, we can make it past teenage angst.



You don't understand Greg ... I mean you might have bought it, but the children are "entitled" to have whatever they want :rolleyes:

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Now then, back on the tracks ... cellphones are just part part of life now. Understanding when and where to use them is a difference matter.

I'm not old enough to remember the 'old days', but I do recall different places I've played. Justin touched on it last night in his Podcast. I'll phrase it a slightly different way though; when I lived in Europe they had cellphones and texting years before we had heard of it. 8 year olds on the train had their mobiles out, it was just common place. But they understood when and where to use them.

In the Riley's I played at it was the same way. The snooker room was almost completely sound proof, with no music of any kind. On the "American Pool" side, they had the music turned up a little, but there were no fights, no tough talking, just pool. No sharking, no whining, just people playing the game.

I miss that.

You miss Rileys? Extraordinary...

Which one, out of interest?
 
Amen brother !

Next time I play a certain individual I'm
gonna read a newspaper while he's shootin'.
We will see how much he likes it when I
don't pay attention to the game.

He wears ear buds and doesn't pay attention.
Maybe he's trying to shark me but it doesn't
work cause he always loses.

Maybe I'll shake.....I mean adjust the newspaper
a couple of times just to enhance his experience.

I hope the newspaper thing will start a dialog
about proper behavior while playing. If not so
be it, I'm still winnin'.

What's this thing called a newspaper?:wink:

I'm also 59. Pool was never a gentleman's game where I played it. It still isn't. The fights I've gotten into over a game mostly happened because someone decided to play by "gentlemen's" rules, if you know what I mean.

The phone situation is in dire need of some etiquette, for sure. That will develop, I'm guessing as the problems grow.

I finally traded in my old cell phone (I would joke that the crank had broken off it) for a new, "smart" phone. I intend to be able to do what my 30-something teammates constantly do: clickity clack with the thumbs while ignoring the matches right under their noses. I won't do it, but I want to be able to understand and appreciate what the hell is happening.

Gotta go take my meds and poop...Hold my cue while I'm gone, please.

Jeff Livingston
 
I don't text at the table, or wear headphones for that matter, but if I needed to text or take a call, I'd make you wait,, there wouldn't be nothing you could do, but wait until I was done with my call or text anyway, If you was to run your mouth about it , Id set you straight by any means necessary ..

A emergency on your part doesn't constitute as one on my behalf.

PS, I can hold my own in life ,as well as at the table,, there isn't nothing I'd tell you in this forum ,that I wouldn't tell you to your face.. I'm fully willing to back my words up on any ground.. Regardless of your creed, size or reputation,, I will hold my own !!!

Your complaining about frivolous peeves , makes you look as if you're no more than a relic whose time has past him by.. Is it that your jealous of those whose prime is at hand, when yours has diminished ?!?!

You get respect if you earn it !!!!!

You don't get it off me, just cause you're older in age, you must prove you're worth respecting ,before I'll treat you with respect..

That respect your elders doesn't mean jack to me,, especially when alot of the older guys I came across are narrow minded ,and think they know it all, until they're proven wrong.. Then they get all flustered, and there lips seal shut when they're face to face with adversity..

When its a forum setting there mouths run a million miles per minute, in reality ,not all, but a big amount of them are chumps..

It boils down to this...........

If you give me respect ,I'll give respect in return,, if you don't ,then you'll get what you get...

Play your game, and that's it,, dont worry about someone texting, or wearing headphones, its not your place to care ..

Us younger guys don't complain when you oldies run to the rest room to p!ss every 5 minutes, because your bladder is to thin to hold liquid any longer than that @ your fragile age..

Let ppl live how they want,, if it isn't directly effecting you, then you shouldn't care..

If the music to loud ,get earplugs.. If your opponent chalks while your approaching the table,if it aint your chalk, then let them chalk..

Its 2012, not 1950 ,,your hay days have pass, so now you complain how the worlds changed, cause you cant do anything at your age but complain..

Like it or not ,that's the way of the world old timer,, and you can cry about it until you're blue in the face,, that still wont change the New world,, we are your future ,love it ,or hate it..

:eek: :yikes: :wave3: :yeah: :ok: :joyful: :clapping: :dance: :poke: :yes:
That's why I read the forums, the high quality, well stated opinions of educated minds...

If you are the future, it is a very dark and scary place!
 
The best way to deal with sharking in all its forms is to know the different styles of distraction when you encounter them. If you're mentally aware of what's coming, you can counter it.

The first and most obvious sharking maneuver is the physical/verbal shark. We've all seen it used. When you're playing the human windmill who likes to whistle nervously and look around the room suddenly when you're in your backstroke. They talk to you, stand next to the table and chalk their stick, bend over the table with a low cut blouse or just plain tell you, "When are you gonna miss"? Laugh this one off because it's predictable, you don't want to even give their antics a second thought. Easy to fade.

The second move is a little sleeker and has been known to start a few heated debates during matches. It's what I call the pseudo shark. The worst part about it is you start an internal dialogue and ask yourself questions like, "Are they doing that on purpose"? Or "Are they putting a move on me when they do that"? These moves include leaving the area while you shoot; texting and talking loud enough for you to listen in on the story; working on the tip from hell that can never be good enough; unable to freeze the head ball after one of your 4 packs. You slowly boil and think about whether you should say something, but will you be the one here with no class? Amuse yourself and enjoy the idiocy happening in front of you. When they finish what they're doing, have a big smile on your face and look right at them. The roles will reverse when they start thinking about why you're smiling and so obviously entertained.

The last one is the snob shark. It makes you feel insignificant and not worthy. The guy with the headphones with the wimpy handshake; the guy who reads his newspaper while you shoot; the guy that talks to the girl on the next table and keeps forgetting your name; You get mad and want to beat their ass on and off the table. The guy with the headphones is easy. After most innings, walk up to him and motion like you want to talk to them. When they keep taking their ear pieces on and off many times for stupid, meaningless comments from you, they will get no benefit from what they're listening to. The guy that pays no attention to you is easy, too. Just keep asking him stupid questions and force him to talk to you. "Watch this hit", or "What's the score"? "Can I rack the wild ball anywhere I want"? Force him to get involved and hate the sound of your voice. After all, you're not worthy.

Best,
Mike
 
Older/Younger

In the past 10 yrs I've tried twice to get my game back, and I play the younger players that do play better than me, and set up a once or twice a week work out gambling session to get my game on track. What ALWAYS happens, its close or we break even or I lose after 3-4 hrs of play. As the weeks go by I do start playing better and start getting my feel back, as this happens, they end up Not showing up because its tooooooooooooo Hard to win. I've played good players that are in their late twenties and they get tired after 3 + hrs, not physically but I can see their mental choices are diminishing and that is An Extremely important part of the game to get better at, especially if you want to dbl up etc. when your playing someone that's holdin' or if you get in the losers bracket early. It's way better to be ahead and have your opponent quit because They are tired. I'm sixty three and still in great shape/somewhat, but in CO I can't anymore....find a friking REASON to keep playing as no one has any staying power, they don't want to Work Out and get better they only want the quick score. The Pinoys do work out cheap, they play ALLOT and this work ethic provides re$ults.
 
What's this thing called a newspaper?:wink:

I'm also 59. Pool was never a gentleman's game where I played it. It still isn't. The fights I've gotten into over a game mostly happened because someone decided to play by "gentlemen's" rules, if you know what I mean.

The phone situation is in dire need of some etiquette, for sure. That will develop, I'm guessing as the problems grow.

I finally traded in my old cell phone (I would joke that the crank had broken off it) for a new, "smart" phone. I intend to be able to do what my 30-something teammates constantly do: clickity clack with the thumbs while ignoring the matches right under their noses. I won't do it, but I want to be able to understand and appreciate what the hell is happening.

Gotta go take my meds and poop...Hold my cue while I'm gone, please.

Jeff Livingston

You DO realise the big nasty govt can track your movements via your cell phone, right? Not bowel ones, obviously.
 
I can relate to the OP. 7 pages of bad news for me.

I posted this in the 14.1 forum here

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=281880

Good news bad news I guess. Good, I'm not alone. Bad, it's not going to change for the better.


What makes me even more wierd I don't want to gamble. I just love the game and the challenge of trying to get better.
 
I have been unfortunate enough to be in the real world for the last 4-5 months and have had many situations arise expecting people to do the right thing but don't. They will only do the minimal. I'm just going to have to expect the un-expected until they prove they aren't salvages.
 
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