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Saw in the newspaper today, income levels of different celebrities, Janette taking in $650,000 a year, ka ching, allot of hard work and a wonderful giving person has done well in life in many more ways than the bank account. She's also got George and her daughter pretty nice combination. :)
 
It's really interesting -- clearly the bulk of that income does not come from playing tournaments. She worked so hard for so many years to transcend the sport, leveraging her performance at the table to generate interest in pool, and in the Black Widow herself. It strikes me that she's continuing the shift from player to entrepreneur -- perhaps recognizing that her best years are behind her, but she can still compete and she's still more of a household name than any of her peers.

I know she set a goal to be #1 by the end of 2008 -- I suppose that could still be possible, but there are probably 4 or 5 others that most people would slot ahead of her if they had to pick who would be best in '08.

Compare her to Shane Van Boening, who is relatively new to the international spotlight (couple of years, right?) -- it is interesting to see what he takes on in terms of sponsorships, industry politics, business ventures, etc., as he goes forward. It seems there comes a point where pros become much more than just pool players. I suppose it's like any sport... But it's interesting to observe how some people have a killer talent at their sport (and obviously that must come first), and then they leverage that success and combine it with business savvy to create a personal venture which involves much more than just excelling at the table / on the field / what have you.

I suppose some people acquire that business savvy as they grow into their role as being a legend in their sport, others had it from the start, and the rest fail completely outside of dominating their game. Whatever the case, it's rare that someone can master both, so good for Jeanette for everything she's done -- she's earned it!
 
Jeanette has marketed herself brilliantly and I think thats great for her.

I don't know what the gist of the article was but once in awhile "Parade" magazine that can be found in most Sunday newpapers in the US has an article called "what they make". They feature hundreds of different professions and give a general annual income for that profession.

Obviously location plays a large roll in the annual salary. A nurse in CA is going to make more than a nurse in OK. However, whatever income "Parade" puts out there, it's not going to be too far off the mark of the national average salary for that profession.

If this is the kind of article that listed Jeanette as making that kind of money, then the problem lies in the fact that the general public that reads that article is going to think that all pro pool players are making that kind of money and we all know that isn't even remotely close to how things are in the pro pool world.
 
UrackmIcrackm said:
Jeanette has marketed herself brilliantly and I think thats great for her.

I don't know what the gist of the article was but once in awhile "Parade" magazine that can be found in most Sunday newpapers in the US has an article called "what they make". They feature hundreds of different professions and give a general annual income for that profession.

This was in today's Parade.
 
Pushout said:
This was in today's Parade.
Then I definitely take exception to them using JL as an example for professional pool. LOL, they should put an asterik by her name and then notate that she's the only pro player pulling in that kind of money and then list the true average salary.

Paul Dayton said:
I wonder if there are anu guys who make that much$$$.

I'd be surprised.
None that I've ever heard of. I know at one time in the not so distant past Johnny Archer had quite a few sponsors and seemed to be doing quite well. I recently heard that he's down to one sponsor now.
 
UrackmIcrackm said:
Then I definitely take exception to them using JL as an example for professional pool. LOL, they should put an asterik by her name and then notate that she's the only pro player pulling in that kind of money and then list the true average salary.

I don't think you have to worry about people thinking this is what the "average" pool player makes. On the same list is Miley Cyrus ($18.2 million per year) and they don't have an asterisk next to her name that not all 15 year old Disney Channel stars make the same. In fact, also on the list is "Trouble", who is apparently Leona Helmsley's DOG... and the dog apparently makes $12 million a year... and there is not asterisk saying this isn't common to dogs. People aren't as stupid as you think they are and the list isn't about "averages". Just as we aren't intended to think that all Hedgefund Managers make the same $3.5 billion a year that John Paulson in NY (on the list) makes, we also aren't intended to think that all Billiards Players make the same as JL.
 
lodini said:
I don't think you have to worry about people thinking this is what the "average" pool player makes. On the same list is Miley Cyrus ($18.2 million per year) and they don't have an asterisk next to her name that not all 15 year old Disney Channel stars make the same. In fact, also on the list is "Trouble", who is apparently Leona Helmsley's DOG... and the dog apparently makes $12 million a year... and there is not asterisk saying this isn't common to dogs. People aren't as stupid as you think they are and the list isn't about "averages". Just as we aren't intended to think that all Hedgefund Managers make the same $3.5 billion a year that John Paulson in NY (on the list) makes, we also aren't intended to think that all Billiards Players make the same as JL.
LOL, ooooookkkkkkkkkkkk. :rolleyes:

Sorry you took offense.

You have your opinion and I have mine. I never said that "people are stupid". Pro sports players are (in my opinion) over paid. Most make millions, or at least very close to millions. For the people that know nothing about pro pool, there are some that have the misconception that since someone is "pro" they make a lot of money. It doesn't mean that they're stupid, it means that they see "pro" in front of a players name and assume they're highly paid simply because they're "pro". It's a case of assumption due to the way other pro sports figures are paid.

There have been different times in my life when someone has found out that I know a pro pool player and they've assumed that person is wealthy and they're quite surprised when I tell them what "pro pool" is actually like.
 
UrackmIcrackm said:
LOL, ooooookkkkkkkkkkkk. :rolleyes:

Sorry you took offense.

You have your opinion and I have mine. I never said that "people are stupid". Pro sports players are (in my opinion) over paid. Most make millions, or at least very close to millions. For the people that know nothing about pro pool, there are some that have the misconception that since someone is "pro" they make a lot of money. It doesn't mean that they're stupid, it means that they see "pro" in front of a players name and assume they're highly paid simply because they're "pro". It's a case of assumption due to the way other pro sports figures are paid.

There have been different times in my life when someone has found out that I know a pro pool player and they've assumed that person is wealthy and they're quite surprised when I tell them what "pro pool" is actually like.

I didn't take offense, I was just stating my opinion that the general public wouldn't make that assumption. And at least I can get through my opinions without rolling those sarcastic eyes. It's called "adult conversation", where two people may disagree but they are both allowed to voice their opinions in a non-judgmental environment.
 
lodini said:
I didn't take offense, I was just stating my opinion that the general public wouldn't make that assumption. And at least I can get through my opinions without rolling those sarcastic eyes. It's called "adult conversation", where two people may disagree but they are both allowed to voice their opinions in a non-judgmental environment.
Your post was worded more like a verbal attack than an opinion, hence the eye rolling icon. Being much older than yourself, I'm aware of "adult conversation". In person your post would've been more like a ranting verbal attack than a conversation. Unless of course I misunderstood the tone in which your post was made. Maybe you should try using the icons to help with coming across in a more tactful manner.

Either way, my thoughts do not convey what you understood them to be.

I've no desire to banter back and forth about such a misunderstanding. Please, have yourself a wonderful day ma'am. :)
 
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