Nick Varner....

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will be a Main Street in Tucson, Az on 12/28 doing an exhibition at 7 p.m.

Just an FYI

Saw his exhibition at Main Street in Mesa last night and met a few AZBers.
It's great to see our pros past and present out there promoting the game, and bringing its' history to life. Nick is definitely a gentleman and a HUGE asset to the game!!

After watching him in person.....I'm determined to make it my mission to not overhit anything again.......... effortless is the word that comes to mind from watching his play. I guess that could be the result of being one of the best players in the history of the game. :)

Check him out tonight, anyone in Tucson....

td
 
Nick Varner is, quite simply, one of the jewels in the crown of American pool. Great player and a great man.

To my knowledge, Nick is the only player that ever won a World Championships in each of 9-ball, straight pool, eight ball and one pocket.

When one thinks of the most cerebral players in the game's history, Varner belongs in the conversation with guys like Reyes, Crane, Souquet and Hopkins.
 
Danny Diliberto also won major championships in 9-Ball, Eight Ball, One Pocket and Straight Pool. He's probably the only other guy who has. Buddy has won in 9-Ball, One Pocket and Banks, plus bar table Eight Ball.
 
jay helfert said:
Danny Diliberto also won major championships in 9-Ball, Eight Ball, One Pocket and Straight Pool. He's probably the only other guy who has. Buddy has won in 9-Ball, One Pocket and Banks, plus bar table Eight Ball.
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Right, but were Danny's titles world championships? Buddy Hall's three out of four was matched this year by Ralf Souquet, when he added a World 8-ball championship to his world titles in straight pool and nine ball.
 
grindz said:
will be a Main Street in Tucson, Az on 12/28 doing an exhibition at 7 p.m.

Just an FYI

Saw his exhibition at Main Street in Mesa last night and met a few AZBers.
It's great to see our pros past and present out there promoting the game, and bringing its' history to life. Nick is definitely a gentleman and a HUGE asset to the game!!

After watching him in person.....I'm determined to make it my mission to not overhit anything again.......... effortless is the word that comes to mind from watching his play. I guess that could be the result of being one of the best players in the history of the game. :)

Check him out tonight, anyone in Tucson....

td
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It was a good show and my wife and I really enjoyed ourselves. Going back to a thread I started about "You might be a pool freak if" I had said if you can tell someone your screen name and feel like you know them you might be a pool freak. Well last night at the exhibition I was holding a conversation with a gentleman who I didn't know and after a while he said "I'm Grindz" I all of a sudden was happy and my tone of voice and posture changed to "Hey how are ya doing man? Good to se you" I just thought it was funny. My wife had asked me who is that? I said Grindz and she says "A what??" then she asked me what a BFDLAD was. :)
 
Lol.............

bfdlad said:
It was a good show and my wife and I really enjoyed ourselves. Going back to a thread I started about "You might be a pool freak if" I had said if you can tell someone your screen name and feel like you know them you might be a pool freak. Well last night at the exhibition I was holding a conversation with a gentleman who I didn't know and after a while he said "I'm Grindz" I all of a sudden was happy and my tone of voice and posture changed to "Hey how are ya doing man? Good to se you" I just thought it was funny. My wife had asked me who is that? I said Grindz and she says "A what??" then she asked me what a BFDLAD was. :)
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It was nice meeting you and your wife Mark. Have a safe and happy new year!!

td
 
sjm said:
Nick Varner is, quite simply, one of the jewels in the crown of American pool. Great player and a great man.

To my knowledge, Nick is the only player that ever won a World Championships in each of 9-ball, straight pool, eight ball and one pocket.

When one thinks of the most cerebral players in the game's history, Varner belongs in the conversation with guys like Reyes, Crane, Souquet and Hopkins.
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If you count the 1999 Derby City Classic Banks division (which I do) then he's won World Championships in 5 pocket disciplines.
Seeing that there were no other major ban championships that year, I would call it the defacto World's championship.

Anytime I was balleyhooing over Nick, I always bragged him up as having won 5 WC's in 5 divisions. I can't help myself....always been a big fan of Nick's. :)
 
Terry Ardeno said:
If you count the 1999 Derby City Classic Banks division (which I do) then he's won World Championships in 5 pocket disciplines.
Seeing that there were no other major ban championships that year, I would call it the defacto World's championship.

Anytime I was balleyhooing over Nick, I always bragged him up as having won 5 WC's in 5 divisions. I can't help myself....always been a big fan of Nick's. :)
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I know I'll rub a few the wrong way with this comment, but I do not consider bank pool to be a major discipline in pool. For most of pool's history, it was a game played in America only, and mostly in a small geogrphic area in America. In fact, until recently, it was a game that many pros didn't play even once in a lifetime, and it remains a game not played at all in many countries in which pool is played well.

Perhaps Derby City is in the process of making this happen, but until bank pool is a game played widely worldwide and bank pool fields are internationally diverse and balanced, I think calling anybody the world bank pool champion is inappropriate.

Don't get me wrong, I understand that bank pool is a game of enormous skill, and I can't wait to watch the bank pool event live at Derby City next month.

Guess what I'm suggesting is that Nick Varner has won the world championship in four major pool disciplines, not five.
 
sjm said:
I know I'll rub a few the wrong way with this comment, but I do not consider bank pool to be a major discipline in pool. For most of pool's history, it was a game played in America only, and mostly in a small geogrphic area in America. In fact, until recently, it was a game that many pros didn't play even once in a lifetime, and it remains a game not played at all in many countries in which pool is played well.

Perhaps Derby City is in the process of making this happen, but until bank pool is a game played widely worldwide and bank pool fields are internationally diverse and balanced, I think calling anybody the world bank pool champion is inappropriate.

Don't get me wrong, I understand that bank pool is a game of enormous skill, and I can't wait to watch the bank pool event live at Derby City next month.

Guess what I'm suggesting is that Nick Varner has won the world championship in four major pool disciplines, not five.
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SJM,
I needed smelling salts to get me up off the floor! :shocked:

Where to begin....

Jose Parica won the Bank pool division at the 2001 DCC. HE'S an international superstar. And most all of the foreign players (Reyes, Stalev, Souquet, et al) have entered the bank divisions the years they played in the 9 ball and one pocket divisions.

For most of the last century, 14.1 was strictly an American game. Ortmann, as you know, won the 1989 U.S. Open 14.1 Championships.
So, we can say that for the first 89 years of the last century, 14.1 was mainly an American game, with the exception of the Cuban great Alfredo DeOro. And nobody disputes that Ralph Greenleaf, Erwin Rudolph, Jimmy Caras, Willie Mosconi, etc were legitimate World 14.1 Champions, even though the game was played only in America.

Using the Bank pool not being played around the world by top international players argument, the same logic can be applied to Snooker. Snooker is played mainly in Europe, Canada and the Pacific rim, yet each year, a World Snooker Champion is crowned. Russian Pyramids has it's champion, and it's not played everywhere players gather.

SJM, I appreciate and respect greatly your insights and thoughts on anything in pooldom. BUT...I'm calling Nick Varner a World Champion in 5 disciplines!

Let's hope that Freddy Bentivegna doesn't see this post of yours! :eek: Yikes!

PS- A "World's Champion" is whoever is best at that particular endeavor at the time it was contested. Because more European players don't practice banks should not be a reason to diminish the great talents displayed by the American bankers and Jose Parica! :smile:

PSS-If ever a Rotation World Championships is held, I won't begrudge any of the Filipino players who win it. It'll be "whoever lost"'s fault that they didn't play it more, not "fill in the blank with a Filipino of your choice who's capable of winning it"'s fault for being so good at it. I think that makes sense....

PSSS-Every year, 400+ players enter the DCC Banks division. That's a larger field than the World 14.1 Champoionships, the U.S. Open 9 Ball Championships and even the World 9 Ball Championships. So there's definitely a diverse gathering there.
Here's a list of the players in the money at the last DCC Banks division...

http://www.azbilliards.com/thepros/2000showtourney2008.php?eventnum=14
 
Terry Ardeno said:
SJM,
I needed smelling salts to get me up off the floor! :shocked:

Where to begin....

Jose Parica won the Bank pool division at the 2001 DCC. HE'S an international superstar. And most all of the foreign players (Reyes, Stalev, Souquet, et al) have entered the bank divisions the years they played in the 9 ball and one pocket divisions.

For most of the last century, 14.1 was strictly an American game. Ortmann, as you know, won the 1989 U.S. Open 14.1 Championships.
So, we can say that for the first 89 years of the last century, 14.1 was mainly an American game, with the exception of the Cuban great Alfredo DeOro. And nobody disputes that Ralph Greenleaf, Erwin Rudolph, Jimmy Caras, Willie Mosconi, etc were legitimate World 14.1 Champions, even though the game was played only in America.

Using the Bank pool not being played around the world by top international players argument, the same logic can be applied to Snooker. Snooker is played mainly in Europe, Canada and the Pacific rim, yet each year, a World Snooker Champion is crowned. Russian Pyramids has it's champion, and it's not played everywhere players gather.

SJM, I appreciate and respect greatly your insights and thoughts on anything in pooldom. BUT...I'm calling Nick Varner a World Champion in 5 disciplines!

Let's hope that Freddy Bentivegna doesn't see this post of yours! :eek: Yikes!

PS- A "World's Champion" is whoever is best at that particular endeavor at the time it was contested. Because more European players don't practice banks should not be a reason to diminish the great talents displayed by the American bankers and Jose Parica! :smile:

PSS-If ever a Rotation World Championships is held, I won't begrudge any of the Filipino players who win it. It'll be "whoever lost"'s fault that they didn't play it more, not "fill in the blank with a Filipino of your choice who's capable of winning it"'s fault for being so good at it. I think that makes sense....

PSSS-Every year, 400+ players enter the DCC Banks division. That's a larger field than the World 14.1 Champoionships, the U.S. Open 9 Ball Championships and even the World 9 Ball Championships. So there's definitely a diverse gathering there.
Here's a list of the players in the money at the last DCC Banks division...

http://www.azbilliards.com/thepros/2000showtourney2008.php?eventnum=14
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Point well made, Terry. Upon further consideration, I agree. From now on, im my books, it's world championships in five disciplines for Nick, who I know is a favorite of both of us.
 
Dave Nelson said:
Is it important to know what BFDLAD is? If so, please tell Me.

Dave Nelson
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Yes, depending who you are it is very important. You are probably on a need to know basis.
 
bfdlad said:
Yes, depending who you are it is very important. You are probably on a need to know basis.
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MY real name and location have been stated since my first post on this forum. I could take a guess as to what those letters stand for, but I will refrain.

Dave Nelson
 
sjm said:
Guess what I'm suggesting is that Nick Varner has won the world championship in four major pool disciplines, not five.
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What? Only four and not five?? How in the heck did that guy ever get into the Hall of Fame??
 
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I think of guys like Buddy Hall, Sigel, Strickland, Hopkins, Diliberto, Archer, Parica, and there is no reason to think Nick hasn't had a better or at least equal career.

He's won major championships in every game and has been a class act forever. I actually really enjoy his commentary too.

I can't think of another pool player alive who can be more proud of what he's accomplished and the way he's conducted himself.

Married a lovely girl too.

Nick is awesome.
 
Dave Nelson said:
MY real name and location have been stated since my first post on this forum. I could take a guess as to what those letters stand for, but I will refrain.

Dave Nelson
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Man whats wrong with you? Why are you being mean? My real name location and phone number are all over the place on here. Whats your point?
 
bfdlad said:
Man whats wrong with you? Why are you being mean? My real name location and phone number are all over the place on here. Whats your point?
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What's wrong with me? I asked a question and you gave me a sarcastic non-answer. Whats wrong with you?

Dave Nelson
 
Dave Nelson said:
What's wrong with me? I asked a question and you gave me a sarcastic non-answer. Whats wrong with you?

Dave Nelson
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I wasn't sure if you were joking or not as we met just a couple of moths ago and you responded to my posts and always said nice things. I figured that you knew who I am. If it is so important to you that it has you all worked up BFD is the begining of the postal code for Bradford, West Yorkshire England where I am from. and I am a bradford Lad, So I really don't think that you knowing had made a differnce in your life. Please correct me if I am wrong.
 
bfdlad said:
I wasn't sure if you were joking or not as we met just a couple of moths ago and you responded to my posts and always said nice things. I figured that you knew who I am. If it is so important to you that it has you all worked up BFD is the begining of the postal code for Bradford, West Yorkshire England where I am from. and I am a bradford Lad, So I really don't think that you knowing had made a differnce in your life. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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My apologies. Mis-understanding on my part.

Dave Nelson
 
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